“You are your self first supporter”, a more proper way to say it





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I want to say that the person himself/herself should be the first supporter of himself/herself. I came up with two different ways of saying that, and I want to know if they are all correct, and which one presents the best version.





  1. You are your self first supporter.


  2. You are the first supporter for yourself.





I prefer the first one as it sounds idiomatic, but I don't want the "your self" part to get confused with "yourself" when spoken loudly. So is there another word I can substitute "self" with?





P.S.



I want "support" to be about all the psychological aspects of the human being, not financial support for example. In other words, you would say that phrase to encourage someone in achieving his/her dreams and goals, to keep fighting in life (not literally), to overcome challenges, and so on.



By "first" I mean that you should support yourself before others do.










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    I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

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    Apr 6 at 14:46






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    "First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

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I want to say that the person himself/herself should be the first supporter of himself/herself. I came up with two different ways of saying that, and I want to know if they are all correct, and which one presents the best version.





  1. You are your self first supporter.


  2. You are the first supporter for yourself.





I prefer the first one as it sounds idiomatic, but I don't want the "your self" part to get confused with "yourself" when spoken loudly. So is there another word I can substitute "self" with?





P.S.



I want "support" to be about all the psychological aspects of the human being, not financial support for example. In other words, you would say that phrase to encourage someone in achieving his/her dreams and goals, to keep fighting in life (not literally), to overcome challenges, and so on.



By "first" I mean that you should support yourself before others do.










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    I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

    – Kat
    Apr 6 at 14:46






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    "First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

    – barbecue
    Apr 7 at 17:07
















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I want to say that the person himself/herself should be the first supporter of himself/herself. I came up with two different ways of saying that, and I want to know if they are all correct, and which one presents the best version.





  1. You are your self first supporter.


  2. You are the first supporter for yourself.





I prefer the first one as it sounds idiomatic, but I don't want the "your self" part to get confused with "yourself" when spoken loudly. So is there another word I can substitute "self" with?





P.S.



I want "support" to be about all the psychological aspects of the human being, not financial support for example. In other words, you would say that phrase to encourage someone in achieving his/her dreams and goals, to keep fighting in life (not literally), to overcome challenges, and so on.



By "first" I mean that you should support yourself before others do.










share|improve this question
















I want to say that the person himself/herself should be the first supporter of himself/herself. I came up with two different ways of saying that, and I want to know if they are all correct, and which one presents the best version.





  1. You are your self first supporter.


  2. You are the first supporter for yourself.





I prefer the first one as it sounds idiomatic, but I don't want the "your self" part to get confused with "yourself" when spoken loudly. So is there another word I can substitute "self" with?





P.S.



I want "support" to be about all the psychological aspects of the human being, not financial support for example. In other words, you would say that phrase to encourage someone in achieving his/her dreams and goals, to keep fighting in life (not literally), to overcome challenges, and so on.



By "first" I mean that you should support yourself before others do.







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    I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

    – Kat
    Apr 6 at 14:46






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    "First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

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    Apr 7 at 17:07
















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    I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

    – Kat
    Apr 6 at 14:46






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    "First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

    – barbecue
    Apr 7 at 17:07










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I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

– Kat
Apr 6 at 14:46





I don't really understand what you're trying to get across. You should rely on yourself as much as you possibly can before asking others for help? You can't count on anyone else like you can yourself? You need to believe in yourself before others will? Both "support" and "first" could mean a lot of things in this context, so it's hard to suggest an alternative.

– Kat
Apr 6 at 14:46




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"First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

– barbecue
Apr 7 at 17:07







"First supporter" sounds pretty strange to me. It sounds like a semi-official title or technical term, reminiscent of "first responder." I'd say "biggest supporter" instead. First means the one that came before others, but doesn't necessarily mean most significant or important.

– barbecue
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Your first sentence is not grammatical English, so it will not sound natural to any native speaker. The reason is that 'self' is the indirect object of first supporter, but your sentence doesn't indicate the relationship. You would have to say




You are your own first supporter




Your second sentence fixes this problem by explaining that you are the first supporter of yourself. There is functionally no difference between 'your self' and 'yourself' in this case. They mean the same thing.



But neither sentence can be used by itself without sounding strange, because the phrase 'first supporter' is not a common phrase in native English. It's confusing because we don't know what is meant by the word 'first'. Does it mean you are the earliest one, the one that comes before the others sequentially? Or does it mean you're the most important one of all your supporters?



Also, the word 'supporter' is not usually used in a general way. It needs a context. A person might have supporters at work, or political supporters, but not just 'supporters'.



Your question says that you want to say a person 'should be' the first supporter of their self, but your suggestions use the verb 'are'. 'Are' doesn't mean the same as 'should be'. If you want to say that someone 'should be' their own supporter then use an imperative word like 'be'.




Be your own first supporter




The idiomatic phrase that comes to my mind for saying the same thing is




Be your own best friend




You could also say




Support yourself first




This could be understood in several ways, depending on what the word 'first' is referring to. You would have to clarify what 'first' means by adding context.




support yourself before you support others

support yourself before you do something else

support yourself before others support you







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  • You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

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  • Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

    – jmoreno
    Apr 6 at 19:32






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    @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

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  1. "You are your own biggest fan."




This would be an informal way of saying the same thing. It could be used positively or negatively. If used in a negative sense, it is stating sarcastically that the person thinks too much of himself.



Here's a link to an Internet search showing how similar sayings are used in a self-affirming sense: Link to search results






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  • Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

    – Tasneem ZH
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    @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

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    'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

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    @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

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  • I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

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Statements like this typically use your own X:





  1. You are your own first supporter.




This:





  1. You are your self first supporter




sounds awkward. Self is not used as a modifier very often except as part of fixed phrases like self service.






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  • Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

    – Tasneem ZH
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    Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

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    I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

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    @MrLister There is: "your own".

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  • @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

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Here is a rhetorical question that makes the original poster's point:





  1. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?







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  • By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

    – Tasneem ZH
    Apr 5 at 18:56






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    @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

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  • If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

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  • I have asked it here.

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Maybe something as simple as (this is very common)




Believe in yourself.




A popular proverb is




The Lord helps those who help themselves.




It is sometimes said that




You can't find love until you love yourself.




Or if you want something a bit more pessimistic:




The only person you can rely on is you/yourself.







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  • Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

    – Tasneem ZH
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    "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

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  • Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

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To capture what I think you are trying to emphasize, I would say:



You yourself are your own first supporter.






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    The only way I'd use self in such a sentence is this: Your first supporter is yourself. As others have said, your own supporter is more usual.






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      What is a more proper way to say, “You are your self first supporter”?



      "self first" uses two words to modify "supporter." The words must be grouped by using quotation marks. (Most, if not all, compound adjectives are grouped by using a hyphen.)




      You are your "self first" supporter.




      I've found that making a sentence simpler works best. In your case, try:




      I support myself first.




      or




      Tom supports himself first.




      etc.






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        Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

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      • This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

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      Your first sentence is not grammatical English, so it will not sound natural to any native speaker. The reason is that 'self' is the indirect object of first supporter, but your sentence doesn't indicate the relationship. You would have to say




      You are your own first supporter




      Your second sentence fixes this problem by explaining that you are the first supporter of yourself. There is functionally no difference between 'your self' and 'yourself' in this case. They mean the same thing.



      But neither sentence can be used by itself without sounding strange, because the phrase 'first supporter' is not a common phrase in native English. It's confusing because we don't know what is meant by the word 'first'. Does it mean you are the earliest one, the one that comes before the others sequentially? Or does it mean you're the most important one of all your supporters?



      Also, the word 'supporter' is not usually used in a general way. It needs a context. A person might have supporters at work, or political supporters, but not just 'supporters'.



      Your question says that you want to say a person 'should be' the first supporter of their self, but your suggestions use the verb 'are'. 'Are' doesn't mean the same as 'should be'. If you want to say that someone 'should be' their own supporter then use an imperative word like 'be'.




      Be your own first supporter




      The idiomatic phrase that comes to my mind for saying the same thing is




      Be your own best friend




      You could also say




      Support yourself first




      This could be understood in several ways, depending on what the word 'first' is referring to. You would have to clarify what 'first' means by adding context.




      support yourself before you support others

      support yourself before you do something else

      support yourself before others support you







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      • You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

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      • Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

        – jmoreno
        Apr 6 at 19:32






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        @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

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      Your first sentence is not grammatical English, so it will not sound natural to any native speaker. The reason is that 'self' is the indirect object of first supporter, but your sentence doesn't indicate the relationship. You would have to say




      You are your own first supporter




      Your second sentence fixes this problem by explaining that you are the first supporter of yourself. There is functionally no difference between 'your self' and 'yourself' in this case. They mean the same thing.



      But neither sentence can be used by itself without sounding strange, because the phrase 'first supporter' is not a common phrase in native English. It's confusing because we don't know what is meant by the word 'first'. Does it mean you are the earliest one, the one that comes before the others sequentially? Or does it mean you're the most important one of all your supporters?



      Also, the word 'supporter' is not usually used in a general way. It needs a context. A person might have supporters at work, or political supporters, but not just 'supporters'.



      Your question says that you want to say a person 'should be' the first supporter of their self, but your suggestions use the verb 'are'. 'Are' doesn't mean the same as 'should be'. If you want to say that someone 'should be' their own supporter then use an imperative word like 'be'.




      Be your own first supporter




      The idiomatic phrase that comes to my mind for saying the same thing is




      Be your own best friend




      You could also say




      Support yourself first




      This could be understood in several ways, depending on what the word 'first' is referring to. You would have to clarify what 'first' means by adding context.




      support yourself before you support others

      support yourself before you do something else

      support yourself before others support you







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      • You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

        – Tasneem ZH
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      • Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

        – jmoreno
        Apr 6 at 19:32






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        @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

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      Your first sentence is not grammatical English, so it will not sound natural to any native speaker. The reason is that 'self' is the indirect object of first supporter, but your sentence doesn't indicate the relationship. You would have to say




      You are your own first supporter




      Your second sentence fixes this problem by explaining that you are the first supporter of yourself. There is functionally no difference between 'your self' and 'yourself' in this case. They mean the same thing.



      But neither sentence can be used by itself without sounding strange, because the phrase 'first supporter' is not a common phrase in native English. It's confusing because we don't know what is meant by the word 'first'. Does it mean you are the earliest one, the one that comes before the others sequentially? Or does it mean you're the most important one of all your supporters?



      Also, the word 'supporter' is not usually used in a general way. It needs a context. A person might have supporters at work, or political supporters, but not just 'supporters'.



      Your question says that you want to say a person 'should be' the first supporter of their self, but your suggestions use the verb 'are'. 'Are' doesn't mean the same as 'should be'. If you want to say that someone 'should be' their own supporter then use an imperative word like 'be'.




      Be your own first supporter




      The idiomatic phrase that comes to my mind for saying the same thing is




      Be your own best friend




      You could also say




      Support yourself first




      This could be understood in several ways, depending on what the word 'first' is referring to. You would have to clarify what 'first' means by adding context.




      support yourself before you support others

      support yourself before you do something else

      support yourself before others support you







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      Your first sentence is not grammatical English, so it will not sound natural to any native speaker. The reason is that 'self' is the indirect object of first supporter, but your sentence doesn't indicate the relationship. You would have to say




      You are your own first supporter




      Your second sentence fixes this problem by explaining that you are the first supporter of yourself. There is functionally no difference between 'your self' and 'yourself' in this case. They mean the same thing.



      But neither sentence can be used by itself without sounding strange, because the phrase 'first supporter' is not a common phrase in native English. It's confusing because we don't know what is meant by the word 'first'. Does it mean you are the earliest one, the one that comes before the others sequentially? Or does it mean you're the most important one of all your supporters?



      Also, the word 'supporter' is not usually used in a general way. It needs a context. A person might have supporters at work, or political supporters, but not just 'supporters'.



      Your question says that you want to say a person 'should be' the first supporter of their self, but your suggestions use the verb 'are'. 'Are' doesn't mean the same as 'should be'. If you want to say that someone 'should be' their own supporter then use an imperative word like 'be'.




      Be your own first supporter




      The idiomatic phrase that comes to my mind for saying the same thing is




      Be your own best friend




      You could also say




      Support yourself first




      This could be understood in several ways, depending on what the word 'first' is referring to. You would have to clarify what 'first' means by adding context.




      support yourself before you support others

      support yourself before you do something else

      support yourself before others support you








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      • You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 6 at 8:20











      • Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

        – jmoreno
        Apr 6 at 19:32






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        @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

        – dwilli
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      • You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 6 at 8:20











      • Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

        – jmoreno
        Apr 6 at 19:32






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        @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

        – dwilli
        Apr 6 at 22:46



















      You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 6 at 8:20





      You mentioned that my second example goes with the preposition of, so does that mean for is incorrect? What I mean by "first" is as in your last suggestion, which is in other words: You should be the first one to support yourself before expecting others to support you. And I actually want the supporting matter to be in general.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 6 at 8:20













      Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

      – jmoreno
      Apr 6 at 19:32





      Yeah, I came to the question just to see what was meant. Doesn’t make sense.

      – jmoreno
      Apr 6 at 19:32




      1




      1





      @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

      – dwilli
      Apr 6 at 22:46







      @TasneemZH I wouldn't say 'for' is incorrect, but people normally say 'supporter of somebody or something' or 'support for somebody or something'. You can also say 'I"m here in support of...', or 'I'm doing this in support of...'. The way you said it in your comment sounds completely natural. Here you've used 'support' as a verb, which sounds fine used in general terms. There's an aphorism from Greek myth that we use to say something similar: 'The gods help him who helps himself'.

      – dwilli
      Apr 6 at 22:46















      20
















      1. "You are your own biggest fan."




      This would be an informal way of saying the same thing. It could be used positively or negatively. If used in a negative sense, it is stating sarcastically that the person thinks too much of himself.



      Here's a link to an Internet search showing how similar sayings are used in a self-affirming sense: Link to search results






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      • Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:59






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:11








      • 2





        'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

        – dwilli
        Apr 5 at 22:31






      • 3





        @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

        – Michael W.
        Apr 6 at 5:11











      • I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

        – Mark Foskey
        Apr 7 at 19:58
















      20
















      1. "You are your own biggest fan."




      This would be an informal way of saying the same thing. It could be used positively or negatively. If used in a negative sense, it is stating sarcastically that the person thinks too much of himself.



      Here's a link to an Internet search showing how similar sayings are used in a self-affirming sense: Link to search results






      share|improve this answer


























      • Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:59






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:11








      • 2





        'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

        – dwilli
        Apr 5 at 22:31






      • 3





        @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

        – Michael W.
        Apr 6 at 5:11











      • I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

        – Mark Foskey
        Apr 7 at 19:58














      20












      20








      20









      1. "You are your own biggest fan."




      This would be an informal way of saying the same thing. It could be used positively or negatively. If used in a negative sense, it is stating sarcastically that the person thinks too much of himself.



      Here's a link to an Internet search showing how similar sayings are used in a self-affirming sense: Link to search results






      share|improve this answer

















      1. "You are your own biggest fan."




      This would be an informal way of saying the same thing. It could be used positively or negatively. If used in a negative sense, it is stating sarcastically that the person thinks too much of himself.



      Here's a link to an Internet search showing how similar sayings are used in a self-affirming sense: Link to search results







      share|improve this answer














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      answered Apr 5 at 18:29









      Don B.Don B.

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      • Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:59






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:11








      • 2





        'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

        – dwilli
        Apr 5 at 22:31






      • 3





        @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

        – Michael W.
        Apr 6 at 5:11











      • I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

        – Mark Foskey
        Apr 7 at 19:58



















      • Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:59






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:11








      • 2





        'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

        – dwilli
        Apr 5 at 22:31






      • 3





        @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

        – Michael W.
        Apr 6 at 5:11











      • I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

        – Mark Foskey
        Apr 7 at 19:58

















      Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:59





      Thanks for the suggestion, but would "fan" mean "supporter" literally?

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:59




      1




      1





      @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

      – Jasper
      Apr 5 at 19:11







      @TasneemZH -- Yes. Collins' dictionary lists this meaning as its first definition of "fan". I don't think this meaning was the original meaning of the word, though.

      – Jasper
      Apr 5 at 19:11






      2




      2





      'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

      – dwilli
      Apr 5 at 22:31





      'Fan' usually means a supporter of somebody famous, like a performer or athlete, or a supporter of an athletic team. It can be used for something a person is interested in, like 'I'm a fan of movies'.

      – dwilli
      Apr 5 at 22:31




      3




      3





      @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

      – Michael W.
      Apr 6 at 5:11





      @TasneemZH "Fan" is short for "fanatic," which is word that describes a very strong supporter. These days, fanatic usually has a negative connotation, but fan does not.

      – Michael W.
      Apr 6 at 5:11













      I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

      – Mark Foskey
      Apr 7 at 19:58





      I believe the OP means "supporter" in the sense of a provider of support, such as a parent, friend, or mentor. I wish I could think of a noun to suggest that would convey this concept more clearly.

      – Mark Foskey
      Apr 7 at 19:58











      14














      Statements like this typically use your own X:





      1. You are your own first supporter.




      This:





      1. You are your self first supporter




      sounds awkward. Self is not used as a modifier very often except as part of fixed phrases like self service.






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      • Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:57






      • 9





        Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

        – only_pro
        Apr 5 at 19:46








      • 1





        I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 8:07






      • 2





        @MrLister There is: "your own".

        – wizzwizz4
        Apr 7 at 15:16











      • @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 15:25
















      14














      Statements like this typically use your own X:





      1. You are your own first supporter.




      This:





      1. You are your self first supporter




      sounds awkward. Self is not used as a modifier very often except as part of fixed phrases like self service.






      share|improve this answer


























      • Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:57






      • 9





        Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

        – only_pro
        Apr 5 at 19:46








      • 1





        I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 8:07






      • 2





        @MrLister There is: "your own".

        – wizzwizz4
        Apr 7 at 15:16











      • @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 15:25














      14












      14








      14







      Statements like this typically use your own X:





      1. You are your own first supporter.




      This:





      1. You are your self first supporter




      sounds awkward. Self is not used as a modifier very often except as part of fixed phrases like self service.






      share|improve this answer















      Statements like this typically use your own X:





      1. You are your own first supporter.




      This:





      1. You are your self first supporter




      sounds awkward. Self is not used as a modifier very often except as part of fixed phrases like self service.







      share|improve this answer














      share|improve this answer



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      edited Apr 5 at 18:43









      Jasper

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      answered Apr 5 at 18:20









      LawrenceCLawrenceC

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      • Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:57






      • 9





        Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

        – only_pro
        Apr 5 at 19:46








      • 1





        I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 8:07






      • 2





        @MrLister There is: "your own".

        – wizzwizz4
        Apr 7 at 15:16











      • @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 15:25



















      • Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:57






      • 9





        Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

        – only_pro
        Apr 5 at 19:46








      • 1





        I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 8:07






      • 2





        @MrLister There is: "your own".

        – wizzwizz4
        Apr 7 at 15:16











      • @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

        – Mr Lister
        Apr 7 at 15:25

















      Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:57





      Such a great suggestion! Thank you.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:57




      9




      9





      Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

      – only_pro
      Apr 5 at 19:46







      Downvoted because I think this suggestion still sounds awkward. I can't imagine a native speaker ever saying this. First Supporter sounds like the name of a cop show or something, lol.

      – only_pro
      Apr 5 at 19:46






      1




      1





      I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

      – Mr Lister
      Apr 7 at 8:07





      I believe the OP is not using self as a modifier, but is rather trying to say "yourself's". Now if only there was such a construct...

      – Mr Lister
      Apr 7 at 8:07




      2




      2





      @MrLister There is: "your own".

      – wizzwizz4
      Apr 7 at 15:16





      @MrLister There is: "your own".

      – wizzwizz4
      Apr 7 at 15:16













      @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

      – Mr Lister
      Apr 7 at 15:25





      @wizzwizz4 Which was mentioned in Lawrence's answer, so I didn't need to mention it again.

      – Mr Lister
      Apr 7 at 15:25











      12














      Here is a rhetorical question that makes the original poster's point:





      1. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?







      share|improve this answer


























      • By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:56






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:09











      • If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 19:35











      • I have asked it here.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15
















      12














      Here is a rhetorical question that makes the original poster's point:





      1. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?







      share|improve this answer


























      • By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:56






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:09











      • If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 19:35











      • I have asked it here.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15














      12












      12








      12







      Here is a rhetorical question that makes the original poster's point:





      1. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?







      share|improve this answer















      Here is a rhetorical question that makes the original poster's point:





      1. If you don't believe in yourself, who will?








      share|improve this answer














      share|improve this answer



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      edited Apr 5 at 18:38

























      answered Apr 5 at 18:31









      JasperJasper

      20.1k44174




      20.1k44174













      • By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:56






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:09











      • If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 19:35











      • I have asked it here.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15



















      • By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 18:56






      • 1





        @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

        – Jasper
        Apr 5 at 19:09











      • If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 5 at 19:35











      • I have asked it here.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15

















      By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:56





      By numbering the examples, you are a genius. Thanks for your answer. (Did I phrase it correctly by the way?)

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 18:56




      1




      1





      @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

      – Jasper
      Apr 5 at 19:09





      @TasneemZH -- Your comment would make a good question.

      – Jasper
      Apr 5 at 19:09













      If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 19:35





      If that's the case, then I will save it for another time.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 5 at 19:35













      I have asked it here.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 8 at 15:15





      I have asked it here.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 8 at 15:15











      3














      Maybe something as simple as (this is very common)




      Believe in yourself.




      A popular proverb is




      The Lord helps those who help themselves.




      It is sometimes said that




      You can't find love until you love yourself.




      Or if you want something a bit more pessimistic:




      The only person you can rely on is you/yourself.







      share|improve this answer
























      • Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 7 at 10:41






      • 1





        "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

        – Artelius
        Apr 8 at 15:06











      • Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15
















      3














      Maybe something as simple as (this is very common)




      Believe in yourself.




      A popular proverb is




      The Lord helps those who help themselves.




      It is sometimes said that




      You can't find love until you love yourself.




      Or if you want something a bit more pessimistic:




      The only person you can rely on is you/yourself.







      share|improve this answer
























      • Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 7 at 10:41






      • 1





        "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

        – Artelius
        Apr 8 at 15:06











      • Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15














      3












      3








      3







      Maybe something as simple as (this is very common)




      Believe in yourself.




      A popular proverb is




      The Lord helps those who help themselves.




      It is sometimes said that




      You can't find love until you love yourself.




      Or if you want something a bit more pessimistic:




      The only person you can rely on is you/yourself.







      share|improve this answer













      Maybe something as simple as (this is very common)




      Believe in yourself.




      A popular proverb is




      The Lord helps those who help themselves.




      It is sometimes said that




      You can't find love until you love yourself.




      Or if you want something a bit more pessimistic:




      The only person you can rely on is you/yourself.








      share|improve this answer












      share|improve this answer



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      answered Apr 6 at 23:14









      ArteliusArtelius

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      • Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 7 at 10:41






      • 1





        "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

        – Artelius
        Apr 8 at 15:06











      • Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15



















      • Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 7 at 10:41






      • 1





        "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

        – Artelius
        Apr 8 at 15:06











      • Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

        – Tasneem ZH
        Apr 8 at 15:15

















      Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 7 at 10:41





      Very nice proverbs; thanks. But isn't there something that includes the word "support" explicitly? Or could that "believe in" has the same meaning as "support"?

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 7 at 10:41




      1




      1





      "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

      – Artelius
      Apr 8 at 15:06





      "Believe in yourself" means be confident, think highly of yourself and your potential.

      – Artelius
      Apr 8 at 15:06













      Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 8 at 15:15





      Not quite the meaning I want to convey... But I appreciate it nonetheless.

      – Tasneem ZH
      Apr 8 at 15:15











      2














      To capture what I think you are trying to emphasize, I would say:



      You yourself are your own first supporter.






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        2














        To capture what I think you are trying to emphasize, I would say:



        You yourself are your own first supporter.






        share|improve this answer


























          2












          2








          2







          To capture what I think you are trying to emphasize, I would say:



          You yourself are your own first supporter.






          share|improve this answer













          To capture what I think you are trying to emphasize, I would say:



          You yourself are your own first supporter.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



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          answered Apr 6 at 22:30









          TravisTravis

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              The only way I'd use self in such a sentence is this: Your first supporter is yourself. As others have said, your own supporter is more usual.






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                The only way I'd use self in such a sentence is this: Your first supporter is yourself. As others have said, your own supporter is more usual.






                share|improve this answer


























                  1












                  1








                  1







                  The only way I'd use self in such a sentence is this: Your first supporter is yourself. As others have said, your own supporter is more usual.






                  share|improve this answer













                  The only way I'd use self in such a sentence is this: Your first supporter is yourself. As others have said, your own supporter is more usual.







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                  answered Apr 6 at 21:05









                  Anton SherwoodAnton Sherwood

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                      What is a more proper way to say, “You are your self first supporter”?



                      "self first" uses two words to modify "supporter." The words must be grouped by using quotation marks. (Most, if not all, compound adjectives are grouped by using a hyphen.)




                      You are your "self first" supporter.




                      I've found that making a sentence simpler works best. In your case, try:




                      I support myself first.




                      or




                      Tom supports himself first.




                      etc.






                      share|improve this answer





















                      • 1





                        Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                        – V2Blast
                        Apr 6 at 5:57











                      • This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                        – Tasneem ZH
                        Apr 6 at 8:11
















                      -1














                      What is a more proper way to say, “You are your self first supporter”?



                      "self first" uses two words to modify "supporter." The words must be grouped by using quotation marks. (Most, if not all, compound adjectives are grouped by using a hyphen.)




                      You are your "self first" supporter.




                      I've found that making a sentence simpler works best. In your case, try:




                      I support myself first.




                      or




                      Tom supports himself first.




                      etc.






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                        Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                        – V2Blast
                        Apr 6 at 5:57











                      • This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                        – Tasneem ZH
                        Apr 6 at 8:11














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                      What is a more proper way to say, “You are your self first supporter”?



                      "self first" uses two words to modify "supporter." The words must be grouped by using quotation marks. (Most, if not all, compound adjectives are grouped by using a hyphen.)




                      You are your "self first" supporter.




                      I've found that making a sentence simpler works best. In your case, try:




                      I support myself first.




                      or




                      Tom supports himself first.




                      etc.






                      share|improve this answer















                      What is a more proper way to say, “You are your self first supporter”?



                      "self first" uses two words to modify "supporter." The words must be grouped by using quotation marks. (Most, if not all, compound adjectives are grouped by using a hyphen.)




                      You are your "self first" supporter.




                      I've found that making a sentence simpler works best. In your case, try:




                      I support myself first.




                      or




                      Tom supports himself first.




                      etc.







                      share|improve this answer














                      share|improve this answer



                      share|improve this answer








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                      V2Blast

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                      ScottScott

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                      • 1





                        Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                        – V2Blast
                        Apr 6 at 5:57











                      • This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                        – Tasneem ZH
                        Apr 6 at 8:11














                      • 1





                        Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                        – V2Blast
                        Apr 6 at 5:57











                      • This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                        – Tasneem ZH
                        Apr 6 at 8:11








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                      1





                      Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                      – V2Blast
                      Apr 6 at 5:57





                      Your first suggestion (with quotation marks) sounds totally unnatural and wrong. "Self first" isn't really a meaningful adjectival phrase.

                      – V2Blast
                      Apr 6 at 5:57













                      This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                      – Tasneem ZH
                      Apr 6 at 8:11





                      This is the same as what Grammarly suggests. I didn't go with its suggestion as I found the sentence odd. As for I support myself first, I think it is reasonable and correct, but I want it to sound a bit more idiomatic as a way of encouraging others to support themselves rather than stating that plainly.

                      – Tasneem ZH
                      Apr 6 at 8:11


















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