What is the word for a person who is over reverential to authority figures in general or scientists in...
I am thinking of someone who believes that the government would never lie to the population, that scientists are always right about everything, and cannot possibly be wrong about anything, and shows such utmost faith in figures they consider to be authorities.
As an example on scientists, group A did an experiment and announced their results. Group B then did another experiment and announced that group A was wrong. Later it turned out that group B had misunderstood what group A had said, and group A were right.
To my mind group B were simply wrong when they said that group A was wrong. But because this person believes that scientists can never be wrong, they insist that group B was not wrong when they said group A was wrong, but were "correct given their knowledge at that time."
Similarly when the senior scientist told Whittle that his idea for a jet engine would never work, that scientist wasn't wrong to say that, he was "correct given his knowledge at that time." To me this person treats authority figures in general, and scientists in particular like infallible gods who are never wrong, and in order not to admit that the scientists can be wrong they resort to this "they weren't wrong, they were correct given knowledge at that time" excuse as if being wrong through lack of knowledge stops someone from being wrong.
So the word I want is for use in a sentence like
You are a xxxxxxxx.
I'm thinking it might be something like authoritydeist, authoritytheist, scientistdeist or scientisttheist, but I can't find such a word on the internet.
I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
If there is no such word is there a brief phrase, "authority worshipper" and "scientist worshipper" sound too clumsy and I want something more technical, like "technophobe" rather than "technology hater".
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I am thinking of someone who believes that the government would never lie to the population, that scientists are always right about everything, and cannot possibly be wrong about anything, and shows such utmost faith in figures they consider to be authorities.
As an example on scientists, group A did an experiment and announced their results. Group B then did another experiment and announced that group A was wrong. Later it turned out that group B had misunderstood what group A had said, and group A were right.
To my mind group B were simply wrong when they said that group A was wrong. But because this person believes that scientists can never be wrong, they insist that group B was not wrong when they said group A was wrong, but were "correct given their knowledge at that time."
Similarly when the senior scientist told Whittle that his idea for a jet engine would never work, that scientist wasn't wrong to say that, he was "correct given his knowledge at that time." To me this person treats authority figures in general, and scientists in particular like infallible gods who are never wrong, and in order not to admit that the scientists can be wrong they resort to this "they weren't wrong, they were correct given knowledge at that time" excuse as if being wrong through lack of knowledge stops someone from being wrong.
So the word I want is for use in a sentence like
You are a xxxxxxxx.
I'm thinking it might be something like authoritydeist, authoritytheist, scientistdeist or scientisttheist, but I can't find such a word on the internet.
I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
If there is no such word is there a brief phrase, "authority worshipper" and "scientist worshipper" sound too clumsy and I want something more technical, like "technophobe" rather than "technology hater".
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Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
Dec 21 at 14:48
Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
2 days ago
Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
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I am thinking of someone who believes that the government would never lie to the population, that scientists are always right about everything, and cannot possibly be wrong about anything, and shows such utmost faith in figures they consider to be authorities.
As an example on scientists, group A did an experiment and announced their results. Group B then did another experiment and announced that group A was wrong. Later it turned out that group B had misunderstood what group A had said, and group A were right.
To my mind group B were simply wrong when they said that group A was wrong. But because this person believes that scientists can never be wrong, they insist that group B was not wrong when they said group A was wrong, but were "correct given their knowledge at that time."
Similarly when the senior scientist told Whittle that his idea for a jet engine would never work, that scientist wasn't wrong to say that, he was "correct given his knowledge at that time." To me this person treats authority figures in general, and scientists in particular like infallible gods who are never wrong, and in order not to admit that the scientists can be wrong they resort to this "they weren't wrong, they were correct given knowledge at that time" excuse as if being wrong through lack of knowledge stops someone from being wrong.
So the word I want is for use in a sentence like
You are a xxxxxxxx.
I'm thinking it might be something like authoritydeist, authoritytheist, scientistdeist or scientisttheist, but I can't find such a word on the internet.
I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
If there is no such word is there a brief phrase, "authority worshipper" and "scientist worshipper" sound too clumsy and I want something more technical, like "technophobe" rather than "technology hater".
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I am thinking of someone who believes that the government would never lie to the population, that scientists are always right about everything, and cannot possibly be wrong about anything, and shows such utmost faith in figures they consider to be authorities.
As an example on scientists, group A did an experiment and announced their results. Group B then did another experiment and announced that group A was wrong. Later it turned out that group B had misunderstood what group A had said, and group A were right.
To my mind group B were simply wrong when they said that group A was wrong. But because this person believes that scientists can never be wrong, they insist that group B was not wrong when they said group A was wrong, but were "correct given their knowledge at that time."
Similarly when the senior scientist told Whittle that his idea for a jet engine would never work, that scientist wasn't wrong to say that, he was "correct given his knowledge at that time." To me this person treats authority figures in general, and scientists in particular like infallible gods who are never wrong, and in order not to admit that the scientists can be wrong they resort to this "they weren't wrong, they were correct given knowledge at that time" excuse as if being wrong through lack of knowledge stops someone from being wrong.
So the word I want is for use in a sentence like
You are a xxxxxxxx.
I'm thinking it might be something like authoritydeist, authoritytheist, scientistdeist or scientisttheist, but I can't find such a word on the internet.
I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
If there is no such word is there a brief phrase, "authority worshipper" and "scientist worshipper" sound too clumsy and I want something more technical, like "technophobe" rather than "technology hater".
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Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
Dec 21 at 14:48
Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
2 days ago
Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
– Dissabled Dave
yesterday
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Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
Dec 21 at 14:48
Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
2 days ago
Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
– Dissabled Dave
yesterday
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Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
Dec 21 at 14:48
Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
Dec 21 at 14:48
Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
2 days ago
Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
2 days ago
Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
– Dissabled Dave
yesterday
Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
– Dissabled Dave
yesterday
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That person is a slave to authority or science more specifically.
They unquestioningly believe the authority, be it the government, scientists or any other group.
I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
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Sheep. Intellectual lackey. Born follower.
Edited to add:
A milder term would be deferential.
BTW, a note to the officious berks who like downvoting my answers “because I haven’t provided authoritative references”. I’m not going to bother providing links to words that can be looked up automatically when the reader hovers over them in their browser. We’re not in the nineties any longer.
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
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That person is a slave to authority or science more specifically.
They unquestioningly believe the authority, be it the government, scientists or any other group.
I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
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That person is a slave to authority or science more specifically.
They unquestioningly believe the authority, be it the government, scientists or any other group.
I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
– Dissabled Dave
Dec 21 at 19:42
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That person is a slave to authority or science more specifically.
They unquestioningly believe the authority, be it the government, scientists or any other group.
That person is a slave to authority or science more specifically.
They unquestioningly believe the authority, be it the government, scientists or any other group.
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I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
– Dissabled Dave
Dec 21 at 19:42
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I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
– Dissabled Dave
Dec 21 at 19:42
I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
– Dissabled Dave
Dec 21 at 19:42
I can see where you are coming from, but to me someone could be a slave to authority through fear of repercussions and not because they believe the authority to be right, whereas I'm specifically looking for a word for someone who chooses to believe authorities are right all the time with what is almost religious faith in the correctness of what authorities say, and seems able to believe that even where two scientists are mutually contradictory both of them are right.
– Dissabled Dave
Dec 21 at 19:42
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Sheep. Intellectual lackey. Born follower.
Edited to add:
A milder term would be deferential.
BTW, a note to the officious berks who like downvoting my answers “because I haven’t provided authoritative references”. I’m not going to bother providing links to words that can be looked up automatically when the reader hovers over them in their browser. We’re not in the nineties any longer.
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
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Sheep. Intellectual lackey. Born follower.
Edited to add:
A milder term would be deferential.
BTW, a note to the officious berks who like downvoting my answers “because I haven’t provided authoritative references”. I’m not going to bother providing links to words that can be looked up automatically when the reader hovers over them in their browser. We’re not in the nineties any longer.
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Please note, the system has flagged your answer for deletion as "low-quality because of its length and content." An answer on this site is expected to be authoritative, detailed, and explain why it is correct. I think you have enough rep to know how to edit your question to add the necessary detail...
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
– Dissabled Dave
2 days ago
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Sheep. Intellectual lackey. Born follower.
Edited to add:
A milder term would be deferential.
BTW, a note to the officious berks who like downvoting my answers “because I haven’t provided authoritative references”. I’m not going to bother providing links to words that can be looked up automatically when the reader hovers over them in their browser. We’re not in the nineties any longer.
Sheep. Intellectual lackey. Born follower.
Edited to add:
A milder term would be deferential.
BTW, a note to the officious berks who like downvoting my answers “because I haven’t provided authoritative references”. I’m not going to bother providing links to words that can be looked up automatically when the reader hovers over them in their browser. We’re not in the nineties any longer.
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
– Dissabled Dave
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Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
– Dissabled Dave
2 days ago
Thanks for replying. You have got the sense of what I want and are very close to what I'm after, but I want a more technical term. Those terms are, I think, derogatory, and I want a term that someone like a psychologist or psychiatrist might use that would have some scientific gravitas. I don't want to insult the person so much as point out that their behaviour is sufficiently weird to warrant a scientific label.
– Dissabled Dave
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Welcome to EL&U! A very good question indeed! In the future, please make use of paragraphs (leaving an empty line between paragraphs) to make your question more legible.
– A Lambent Eye
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Deference and deferential are used in psychology to refer to this sort of behaviour and thinking, though they don't fit the requested You-are-a form. You might also be interested in Kohlberg's stages of moral development, in particular, conventional morality (and hence, I suppose, conventional moralists).
– tmgr
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Thanks for that tmgr. I may have to resort to "You are overly deferential" or maybe invent a new word; if some one who worships Buddha is a Buddhist, as this person almost worships authority figures and scientists perhaps authoritist or scienceist?
– Dissabled Dave
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