Why grammar is important? [on hold]
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I heard some people said grammar didn't improve your English speaking proficiency.
Can native speaker write decent English without learning grammar?
Is it possible to speak without learning grammar?
grammar
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Falona Dolfa
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I heard some people said grammar didn't improve your English speaking proficiency.
Can native speaker write decent English without learning grammar?
Is it possible to speak without learning grammar?
grammar
asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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put on hold as too broad by curiousdannii, Michael Harvey, J. Taylor, Dan Bron, Jason Bassford Dec 9 at 16:24
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You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
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Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
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This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
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This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
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@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52
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I heard some people said grammar didn't improve your English speaking proficiency.
Can native speaker write decent English without learning grammar?
Is it possible to speak without learning grammar?
grammar
asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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I heard some people said grammar didn't improve your English speaking proficiency.
Can native speaker write decent English without learning grammar?
Is it possible to speak without learning grammar?
grammar
grammar
asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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edited Dec 9 at 13:06
asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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asked Dec 9 at 12:19
Falona Dolfa
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put on hold as too broad by curiousdannii, Michael Harvey, J. Taylor, Dan Bron, Jason Bassford Dec 9 at 16:24
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You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
1
Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
2
This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
1
This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
1
@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52
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You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
1
Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
2
This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
1
This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
1
@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52
You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
1
1
Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
2
2
This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
1
1
This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
1
1
@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52
@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52
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You might make yourself understood, but without learning proper grammar you will never write or speak "decent English".
– Jim Mack
Dec 9 at 12:38
1
Even native English speakers?
– Falona Dolfa
Dec 9 at 12:43
2
This may be a question better asked on the Language Learning site: languagelearning.stackexchange.com. But first you would need to explain what you understand by 'grammar' and 'learning', because by the age of 5 or 6 children can speak English with few grammatical mistakes without ever having had a lesson in grammar such as those lessons in English grammar inflicted on non-native learners of the language.
– Shoe
Dec 9 at 12:47
1
This is more a question about language acquisition and how it works. There's nothing special about English in this regard. Maybe one for Linguistics, but probably best to do some introductory reading on the topic - plenty has been written on it for the general reader. (Broad strokes, native speakers don't have to consciously learn grammar.)
– tmgr
Dec 9 at 12:50
1
@FalonaDolfa What language is your own native language? Do you remember learning the grammar rules of that language? I’m guessing probably not. When you speak your own language, you just know instinctively how to say things. That’s because you learnt the grammar of your own language when you were very, very small, when you learnt to speak, at an age where your brain is optimised for language acquisition. You can learn a foreign language the same way, but your adult brain is optimised for other things, and it’s much harder. Hence why you learn grammar consciously.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Dec 9 at 14:52