Publication rates for different areas of mathematics?
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.
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asked 7 hours ago
epsilonepsilon
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If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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– epsilon
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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– YCor
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.
journals
asked 7 hours ago
epsilonepsilon
925
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.
journals
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epsilonepsilon
925
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epsilonepsilon
925
asked 7 hours ago
epsilonepsilon
925
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epsilonepsilon
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epsilonepsilon
925
925
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If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
7 hours ago
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
7 hours ago
1
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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– epsilon
6 hours ago
1
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
$endgroup$
– YCor
5 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
7 hours ago
1
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
7 hours ago
1
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
$endgroup$
– epsilon
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
$endgroup$
– YCor
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
7 hours ago
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
7 hours ago
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
7 hours ago
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1
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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– epsilon
6 hours ago
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
$endgroup$
– epsilon
6 hours ago
1
1
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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– YCor
5 hours ago
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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– YCor
5 hours ago
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I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output is 1 paper a year, twice that in mathematical logic.
These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.
This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.
answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
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Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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– David Roberts
5 hours ago
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Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
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– epsilon
5 hours ago
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They are crazy, indeed!
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– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
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@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
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– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
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– David Roberts
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I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output is 1 paper a year, twice that in mathematical logic.
These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.
This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.
answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
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Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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– David Roberts
5 hours ago
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Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
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– epsilon
5 hours ago
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They are crazy, indeed!
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– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
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@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
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– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
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– David Roberts
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show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output is 1 paper a year, twice that in mathematical logic.
These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.
This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.
answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
76.9k9180284
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Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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– David Roberts
5 hours ago
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Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
5 hours ago
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They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
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– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
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– David Roberts
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output is 1 paper a year, twice that in mathematical logic.
These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.
This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.
answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
76.9k9180284
$endgroup$
I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output is 1 paper a year, twice that in mathematical logic.
These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.
This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.
answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
76.9k9180284
edited 5 hours ago
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Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
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answered 6 hours ago
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answered 6 hours ago
Carlo BeenakkerCarlo Beenakker
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Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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– David Roberts
5 hours ago
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Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
$begingroup$
Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
3 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
4 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
3 hours ago
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@FedericoPoloni thanks, and good point!
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– David Roberts
3 hours ago
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If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
7 hours ago
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
7 hours ago
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
$endgroup$
– epsilon
6 hours ago
1
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
$endgroup$
– YCor
5 hours ago