“That said,” “That having been said,” or “That being said”?
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That said, the game is over.
That having been said, the game is over.
That being said, the game is over.
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That said, the game is over.
That having been said, the game is over.
That being said, the game is over.
Are all equally acceptable?
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That said, the game is over.
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That being said, the game is over.
Are all equally acceptable?
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That said, the game is over.
That having been said, the game is over.
That being said, the game is over.
Are all equally acceptable?
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grammar expressions
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All three are acceptable.
That said — Wiktionary
- However
"Christmas is exploited by capitalism. That said, it is still a religious festival."
It is a set phrase, kind of idiomatic.
Synonyms: Be that as it may, Having said that, Nevertheless, That being said
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
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They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
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if something is said before something else, then "that having been said" is correct, while "that being said" is not. "that being said" means something is being said in the present, whereas "having said that" places the "saying" before the next phrase. regarding the examples below, "being in prison" is different from "having been in prison." "Now that is said and done" means something is currently said and done, like "do Americans say the word elevator and ride in a lift." Now that was said and done would suggest in the past, Americans said elevator and rode in a lift.
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What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
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"That said" is an appropriate truncation of "that having been said", which is correct in that the clause refers back to what was just stated in the prior sentence. "That being said" is incorrect since the prior sentence is in the past. It is not in the process of being said. That said, "that being said" is still a commonly used idiom.
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
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There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
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Apr 13 at 20:05
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
3
down vote
accepted
All three are acceptable.
That said — Wiktionary
- However
"Christmas is exploited by capitalism. That said, it is still a religious festival."
It is a set phrase, kind of idiomatic.
Synonyms: Be that as it may, Having said that, Nevertheless, That being said
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
20.8k1359110
They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
All three are acceptable.
That said — Wiktionary
- However
"Christmas is exploited by capitalism. That said, it is still a religious festival."
It is a set phrase, kind of idiomatic.
Synonyms: Be that as it may, Having said that, Nevertheless, That being said
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
20.8k1359110
They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
All three are acceptable.
That said — Wiktionary
- However
"Christmas is exploited by capitalism. That said, it is still a religious festival."
It is a set phrase, kind of idiomatic.
Synonyms: Be that as it may, Having said that, Nevertheless, That being said
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
20.8k1359110
All three are acceptable.
That said — Wiktionary
- However
"Christmas is exploited by capitalism. That said, it is still a religious festival."
It is a set phrase, kind of idiomatic.
Synonyms: Be that as it may, Having said that, Nevertheless, That being said
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
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edited Aug 26 '16 at 14:52
answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
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answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
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answered Aug 24 '16 at 5:05
NVZ
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20.8k1359110
They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
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They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
They are all the same of someone trying to fill the void while trying to move on to a new sentence.
– Anthony
Apr 13 at 21:24
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if something is said before something else, then "that having been said" is correct, while "that being said" is not. "that being said" means something is being said in the present, whereas "having said that" places the "saying" before the next phrase. regarding the examples below, "being in prison" is different from "having been in prison." "Now that is said and done" means something is currently said and done, like "do Americans say the word elevator and ride in a lift." Now that was said and done would suggest in the past, Americans said elevator and rode in a lift.
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What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
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if something is said before something else, then "that having been said" is correct, while "that being said" is not. "that being said" means something is being said in the present, whereas "having said that" places the "saying" before the next phrase. regarding the examples below, "being in prison" is different from "having been in prison." "Now that is said and done" means something is currently said and done, like "do Americans say the word elevator and ride in a lift." Now that was said and done would suggest in the past, Americans said elevator and rode in a lift.
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What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
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if something is said before something else, then "that having been said" is correct, while "that being said" is not. "that being said" means something is being said in the present, whereas "having said that" places the "saying" before the next phrase. regarding the examples below, "being in prison" is different from "having been in prison." "Now that is said and done" means something is currently said and done, like "do Americans say the word elevator and ride in a lift." Now that was said and done would suggest in the past, Americans said elevator and rode in a lift.
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if something is said before something else, then "that having been said" is correct, while "that being said" is not. "that being said" means something is being said in the present, whereas "having said that" places the "saying" before the next phrase. regarding the examples below, "being in prison" is different from "having been in prison." "Now that is said and done" means something is currently said and done, like "do Americans say the word elevator and ride in a lift." Now that was said and done would suggest in the past, Americans said elevator and rode in a lift.
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What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
– Rupert Morrish
2 days ago
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What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
– Rupert Morrish
2 days ago
What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
– Rupert Morrish
2 days ago
What has been said cannot be unsaid. So if it has been said, it is still said.
– Rupert Morrish
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"That said" is an appropriate truncation of "that having been said", which is correct in that the clause refers back to what was just stated in the prior sentence. "That being said" is incorrect since the prior sentence is in the past. It is not in the process of being said. That said, "that being said" is still a commonly used idiom.
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
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There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
add a comment |
up vote
-4
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"That said" is an appropriate truncation of "that having been said", which is correct in that the clause refers back to what was just stated in the prior sentence. "That being said" is incorrect since the prior sentence is in the past. It is not in the process of being said. That said, "that being said" is still a commonly used idiom.
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
3
There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
add a comment |
up vote
-4
down vote
up vote
-4
down vote
"That said" is an appropriate truncation of "that having been said", which is correct in that the clause refers back to what was just stated in the prior sentence. "That being said" is incorrect since the prior sentence is in the past. It is not in the process of being said. That said, "that being said" is still a commonly used idiom.
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
"That said" is an appropriate truncation of "that having been said", which is correct in that the clause refers back to what was just stated in the prior sentence. "That being said" is incorrect since the prior sentence is in the past. It is not in the process of being said. That said, "that being said" is still a commonly used idiom.
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
answered Oct 16 '16 at 9:46
David Pearce
5
5
3
There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
add a comment |
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There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
3
3
There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
There’s no reason at all why “that being said” should be illogical or incorrect. It doesn’t matter whether the thing said was said in the past or in the present, it is still said. It’s completely parallel to “that being the case” or “his brother being in prison”. The present participle does not indicate the progressive aspect here; it is simply the morphological form required to form an adverbial, non-finite relative clause.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
Oct 16 '16 at 10:05
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
I don't see how "being the case" or "being in prison" is parallel to "being said"? I agree with the anser. I'm not a native speaker though…
– Adrian Schmidt
Nov 24 '16 at 11:54
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
Yes, someone needs to remove David Pearce's reply from Google Answer. It's downright wrong. It would be like saying "Now that is said and done" should be "Now that was said and done". There is no grammatical issue with the former.
– user293275
Apr 13 at 20:05
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