Summoning high CR monsters with Planar Ally

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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?

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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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dnd-5e spells summoning

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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.

But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).

There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...

is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.

...although it is sent to primarily aid you:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you

Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.

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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
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Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
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+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.

But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).

is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.

...although it is sent to primarily aid you:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you

Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.

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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
2 days ago

Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

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+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
2 days ago

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There is no limit, yes, and yes.

But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).

is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.

...although it is sent to primarily aid you:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you

Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.

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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
2 days ago

Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

3

+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
2 days ago

add a comment |

up vote
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down vote

There is no limit, yes, and yes.

But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).

is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.

...although it is sent to primarily aid you:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you

Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.

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There is no limit, yes, and yes.

But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).

is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.

...although it is sent to primarily aid you:

That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you

Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.

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V2Blast

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J.E

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V2Blast

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J.E

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J.E

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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
2 days ago

Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

3

+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
2 days ago

add a comment |

1

The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
2 days ago

Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

3

+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
2 days ago

The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
2 days ago

Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
2 days ago

+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
2 days ago

add a comment |

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