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I wrote I ate the apple despite we should not do this.
Should I use although in this sentence or is it fine to use despite? And if both are fine, what is the difference?
I also have seen the phrase ... despite the fact that we should not do this does this makes sense? And if so why do we add the fact? To me it just looks like additional words with no further information.
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I wrote I ate the apple despite we should not do this.
Should I use although in this sentence or is it fine to use despite? And if both are fine, what is the difference?
I also have seen the phrase ... despite the fact that we should not do this does this makes sense? And if so why do we add the fact? To me it just looks like additional words with no further information.
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Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
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You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
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I wrote I ate the apple despite we should not do this.
Should I use although in this sentence or is it fine to use despite? And if both are fine, what is the difference?
I also have seen the phrase ... despite the fact that we should not do this does this makes sense? And if so why do we add the fact? To me it just looks like additional words with no further information.
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I wrote I ate the apple despite we should not do this.
Should I use although in this sentence or is it fine to use despite? And if both are fine, what is the difference?
I also have seen the phrase ... despite the fact that we should not do this does this makes sense? And if so why do we add the fact? To me it just looks like additional words with no further information.
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Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
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You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
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Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
1
You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
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Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
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You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
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Despite in English needs an object. You don't have an object. And so you don't have English. As to additional words with no information, you have plenty of those in this very question. And I have plenty of those in this very comment. It's completely normal.
– RegDwigнt♦
2 days ago
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You have to provide a complete sentence before anything can be said with complete certainty. (For instance, in situations involving despite we should not do this is fine; replace despite with although and it becomes ungrammatical.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford The OP has the apple example, which is ungrammatical. Regarding the example in your comment, "despite" is merely mentioned. You can replace it with any string of characters that doesn't alter the syntax of the sentence and it would still be grammatical, though quote marks would be helpful. Why do you say that using "although" in place of "despite" in your example makes it ungrammatical?
– Lawrence
2 days ago
@Lawrence In my example sentence I was using the noun despite (i.e., despair). The sentence In situations involving although we should not do this makes no sense. (Not unless you are referring to although as a word rather than a syntactic unit.) But the point is moot now because the question has since been edited to actually supply a complete sentence about an apple, allowing an unambiguous answer—as with the first comment. (I had been commenting on the original version of the question when a complete sentence didn't exist.)
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
@JasonBassford I should have looked at the time stamps more carefully :) . Setting the OP’s example aside, though, your example “in situations involving despite we should not do this” doesn’t sound grammatical in my idiolect if “despite” isn’t a quoted term. What definition of despite are you using there?
– Lawrence
2 days ago