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Many years ago, around 15 or a little bit more, I practised karate.
I was a child and reached 9th kyu. Now I want to come back to the karate.
Should I start from 9th kyu or I should start from the beginning?
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Many years ago, around 15 or a little bit more, I practised karate.
I was a child and reached 9th kyu. Now I want to come back to the karate.
Should I start from 9th kyu or I should start from the beginning?
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Many years ago, around 15 or a little bit more, I practised karate.
I was a child and reached 9th kyu. Now I want to come back to the karate.
Should I start from 9th kyu or I should start from the beginning?
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Many years ago, around 15 or a little bit more, I practised karate.
I was a child and reached 9th kyu. Now I want to come back to the karate.
Should I start from 9th kyu or I should start from the beginning?
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Your kyu rank is relative to the style (and dojo) that you practiced at when you were 15. Realistically, no matter what the style 9th kyu is barely more than beginner.
I'd suggest you start again from white belt (whatever kyu that happens to be in the dojo you'll be attending). If you remember stuff then you should be able to advance fairly quickly. I've trained at other dojos as a white belt even once I had my black, it can be enlightening getting back in at that level.
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When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
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Firstly, whatever you learned fifteen years ago might be muddled by age and memory lose. I would not rely on it. Secondly, since it was a child's rank and not adult, the syllabus might have been radically different. Finally, after any long break period, it is advisable to start again as a beginner. If it all comes back, you can wear your old coloured belt. If it all comes back, any good teacher should see it and promote you to where they think you should be. Besides, whatever your belt colour is matter less than what you know.
Start from the beginning again and enjoy the journey.
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Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
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Your kyu rank is relative to the style (and dojo) that you practiced at when you were 15. Realistically, no matter what the style 9th kyu is barely more than beginner.
I'd suggest you start again from white belt (whatever kyu that happens to be in the dojo you'll be attending). If you remember stuff then you should be able to advance fairly quickly. I've trained at other dojos as a white belt even once I had my black, it can be enlightening getting back in at that level.
answered yesterday
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When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
add a comment |
Your kyu rank is relative to the style (and dojo) that you practiced at when you were 15. Realistically, no matter what the style 9th kyu is barely more than beginner.
I'd suggest you start again from white belt (whatever kyu that happens to be in the dojo you'll be attending). If you remember stuff then you should be able to advance fairly quickly. I've trained at other dojos as a white belt even once I had my black, it can be enlightening getting back in at that level.
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
add a comment |
Your kyu rank is relative to the style (and dojo) that you practiced at when you were 15. Realistically, no matter what the style 9th kyu is barely more than beginner.
I'd suggest you start again from white belt (whatever kyu that happens to be in the dojo you'll be attending). If you remember stuff then you should be able to advance fairly quickly. I've trained at other dojos as a white belt even once I had my black, it can be enlightening getting back in at that level.
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
Your kyu rank is relative to the style (and dojo) that you practiced at when you were 15. Realistically, no matter what the style 9th kyu is barely more than beginner.
I'd suggest you start again from white belt (whatever kyu that happens to be in the dojo you'll be attending). If you remember stuff then you should be able to advance fairly quickly. I've trained at other dojos as a white belt even once I had my black, it can be enlightening getting back in at that level.
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
answered yesterday
slugster♦slugster
7,47122445
7,47122445
When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
add a comment |
When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
When I accepted students from other schools, I always permitted them to retain their old rank - after all, it was earned. However, when I practiced a martial art that was not my native one, I chose to adopt the white belt and moved up the ranks normally.
– pojo-guy
yesterday
add a comment |
Firstly, whatever you learned fifteen years ago might be muddled by age and memory lose. I would not rely on it. Secondly, since it was a child's rank and not adult, the syllabus might have been radically different. Finally, after any long break period, it is advisable to start again as a beginner. If it all comes back, you can wear your old coloured belt. If it all comes back, any good teacher should see it and promote you to where they think you should be. Besides, whatever your belt colour is matter less than what you know.
Start from the beginning again and enjoy the journey.
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
5
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
add a comment |
Firstly, whatever you learned fifteen years ago might be muddled by age and memory lose. I would not rely on it. Secondly, since it was a child's rank and not adult, the syllabus might have been radically different. Finally, after any long break period, it is advisable to start again as a beginner. If it all comes back, you can wear your old coloured belt. If it all comes back, any good teacher should see it and promote you to where they think you should be. Besides, whatever your belt colour is matter less than what you know.
Start from the beginning again and enjoy the journey.
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
5
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
add a comment |
Firstly, whatever you learned fifteen years ago might be muddled by age and memory lose. I would not rely on it. Secondly, since it was a child's rank and not adult, the syllabus might have been radically different. Finally, after any long break period, it is advisable to start again as a beginner. If it all comes back, you can wear your old coloured belt. If it all comes back, any good teacher should see it and promote you to where they think you should be. Besides, whatever your belt colour is matter less than what you know.
Start from the beginning again and enjoy the journey.
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
Firstly, whatever you learned fifteen years ago might be muddled by age and memory lose. I would not rely on it. Secondly, since it was a child's rank and not adult, the syllabus might have been radically different. Finally, after any long break period, it is advisable to start again as a beginner. If it all comes back, you can wear your old coloured belt. If it all comes back, any good teacher should see it and promote you to where they think you should be. Besides, whatever your belt colour is matter less than what you know.
Start from the beginning again and enjoy the journey.
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
answered yesterday
SardathrionSardathrion
12.2k240104
12.2k240104
5
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
add a comment |
5
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
5
5
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
Seconding this, I had a student start (in TKD) after a similar length of gap 6 months ago, he started at white belt (10th kup), his movement came back quickly so in his first test we promoted to green belt (6th kup) and in the next we will probably grade to blue (4th kup). The belt is supposed to reflect your ability - to allow you to see your progress and to help your instructors teach you. Starting with a high belt will stop both of these benefits
– Collett89
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
@Collett89 Just as an alternative voice on this, I had a long break on karate. My movements came back, so my kata worked well and I got triple-graded first off. But my timing and focus were crap, so I had a few accidents where I hurt people, then I slowed myself down, and then I started getting hurt. In the end I had to quit because my confidence was shot, and I never got it back. I can do jiu jitsu and have plenty of fun with a 20-stone guy trying to rip my head off. But ask me to face off with punches, and I only have a choice between literally try to kill them or panic and freeze.
– Graham
yesterday
1
1
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
@Collett89 ... Just to say that in my case, my instructor pushing me ahead was way more damaging than letting me progress more slowly and get my feel for it back. I may have looked great, but I didn't have the basics.
– Graham
yesterday
1
1
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
@Graham there seems to be two different issues here - if your timing is off on your general movements - that would mean that you aren't performing them correctly and shouldn't have been advanced - the same goes for focus. If this was sparring only (or only apparent here) having a student with powerful movements and not so much control I wouldn't want them battering my beginners - I'd also have my higher grades banned for hurting them. Regardless of what belt they were actually wearing.
– Collett89
20 hours ago
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