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Here’s an example request we can make to the GitHub API:



curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME"


This will prompt for the account password, to continue:



Enter host password for user 'USERNAME':


If we don’t want to get the prompt, we can provide the password at the same time as the username:



curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME:PASSWORD"


But is this method less secure? Does curl send all the data at once, or does it first setup a secure connection, and only then send the USERNAME and PASSWORD?










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    Here’s an example request we can make to the GitHub API:



    curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME"


    This will prompt for the account password, to continue:



    Enter host password for user 'USERNAME':


    If we don’t want to get the prompt, we can provide the password at the same time as the username:



    curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME:PASSWORD"


    But is this method less secure? Does curl send all the data at once, or does it first setup a secure connection, and only then send the USERNAME and PASSWORD?










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      Here’s an example request we can make to the GitHub API:



      curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME"


      This will prompt for the account password, to continue:



      Enter host password for user 'USERNAME':


      If we don’t want to get the prompt, we can provide the password at the same time as the username:



      curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME:PASSWORD"


      But is this method less secure? Does curl send all the data at once, or does it first setup a secure connection, and only then send the USERNAME and PASSWORD?










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      Here’s an example request we can make to the GitHub API:



      curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME"


      This will prompt for the account password, to continue:



      Enter host password for user 'USERNAME':


      If we don’t want to get the prompt, we can provide the password at the same time as the username:



      curl 'https://api.github.com/authorizations' --user "USERNAME:PASSWORD"


      But is this method less secure? Does curl send all the data at once, or does it first setup a secure connection, and only then send the USERNAME and PASSWORD?







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          Regarding the connection there's no difference: the TLS is negotiated first and the HTTP request is secured by the TLS.



          Locally this might be less secure, because:




          • The password gets saved to the command history (~/.bash_history) as a part of the command, but this can be avoided by adding a space in front of the command before running it.

          • On a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps, top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline, for as long as the command is running.

          • Storing the password unsecured in a script might pose a security risk, depending on where the script itself is stored.






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            And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

            – dave_thompson_085
            yesterday






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            Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

            – Esa Jokinen
            yesterday






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            to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

            – Anticom
            yesterday






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            This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

            – Stephen Touset
            yesterday






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            @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

            – Wildcard
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          No, it is not if you use https. When you use HTTPS your complete transaction will be encrypted.



          But as @Esa mentioned it is insecure locally. You can inspect how your data is transferred with tcpdump, tshark or Wireshark like following,



          TCPDUMP



          [root@arif]# tcpdump -i eth0 -n src host 192.168.1.1 and dst port 443 -XX


          TSHARK



          [root@arif]# tshark -O tls -f "tcp port 443" -f "ip src 192.168.1.1" -x





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            The best way to protect from local users is to use a ".netrc" file; the curl man page should have details and at least, if I recall, an example.






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              Regarding the connection there's no difference: the TLS is negotiated first and the HTTP request is secured by the TLS.



              Locally this might be less secure, because:




              • The password gets saved to the command history (~/.bash_history) as a part of the command, but this can be avoided by adding a space in front of the command before running it.

              • On a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps, top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline, for as long as the command is running.

              • Storing the password unsecured in a script might pose a security risk, depending on where the script itself is stored.






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                And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

                – dave_thompson_085
                yesterday






              • 1





                Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

                – Esa Jokinen
                yesterday






              • 4





                to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

                – Anticom
                yesterday






              • 7





                This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

                – Stephen Touset
                yesterday






              • 1





                @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

                – Wildcard
                yesterday


















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              Regarding the connection there's no difference: the TLS is negotiated first and the HTTP request is secured by the TLS.



              Locally this might be less secure, because:




              • The password gets saved to the command history (~/.bash_history) as a part of the command, but this can be avoided by adding a space in front of the command before running it.

              • On a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps, top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline, for as long as the command is running.

              • Storing the password unsecured in a script might pose a security risk, depending on where the script itself is stored.






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                And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

                – dave_thompson_085
                yesterday






              • 1





                Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

                – Esa Jokinen
                yesterday






              • 4





                to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

                – Anticom
                yesterday






              • 7





                This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

                – Stephen Touset
                yesterday






              • 1





                @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

                – Wildcard
                yesterday
















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              Regarding the connection there's no difference: the TLS is negotiated first and the HTTP request is secured by the TLS.



              Locally this might be less secure, because:




              • The password gets saved to the command history (~/.bash_history) as a part of the command, but this can be avoided by adding a space in front of the command before running it.

              • On a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps, top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline, for as long as the command is running.

              • Storing the password unsecured in a script might pose a security risk, depending on where the script itself is stored.






              share|improve this answer















              Regarding the connection there's no difference: the TLS is negotiated first and the HTTP request is secured by the TLS.



              Locally this might be less secure, because:




              • The password gets saved to the command history (~/.bash_history) as a part of the command, but this can be avoided by adding a space in front of the command before running it.

              • On a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps, top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline, for as long as the command is running.

              • Storing the password unsecured in a script might pose a security risk, depending on where the script itself is stored.







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                And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

                – dave_thompson_085
                yesterday






              • 1





                Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

                – Esa Jokinen
                yesterday






              • 4





                to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

                – Anticom
                yesterday






              • 7





                This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

                – Stephen Touset
                yesterday






              • 1





                @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

                – Wildcard
                yesterday
















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                And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

                – dave_thompson_085
                yesterday






              • 1





                Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

                – Esa Jokinen
                yesterday






              • 4





                to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

                – Anticom
                yesterday






              • 7





                This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

                – Stephen Touset
                yesterday






              • 1





                @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

                – Wildcard
                yesterday










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              And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

              – dave_thompson_085
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              And if on a shared system, it will usually be visible to others in ps and top and such, or by reading /proc/$pid/cmdline

              – dave_thompson_085
              yesterday




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              Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

              – Esa Jokinen
              yesterday





              Then you must keep the script in a safe place. I'd recommend 700 permissions.

              – Esa Jokinen
              yesterday




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              to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

              – Anticom
              yesterday





              to solve the issue with .bash_history you could just prepend a space in front of your command. This way it doesn't get saved to history. (further info over here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115917/… )

              – Anticom
              yesterday




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              This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

              – Stephen Touset
              yesterday





              This doesn't solve the /proc/${pid}/cmdline issue (e.g., it showing up in ps output). If there are multiple users on a system, this is a great way to accidentally disclose a password.

              – Stephen Touset
              yesterday




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              @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

              – Wildcard
              yesterday







              @StephenTouset check here: unix.stackexchange.com/q/385339/135943. Curl password arguments do NOT appear in ps output, except possibly for a minuscule (and hard to demonstrate) time period after the curl command is invoked. Should not be relied on entirely for security but it’s pretty effective.

              – Wildcard
              yesterday















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              No, it is not if you use https. When you use HTTPS your complete transaction will be encrypted.



              But as @Esa mentioned it is insecure locally. You can inspect how your data is transferred with tcpdump, tshark or Wireshark like following,



              TCPDUMP



              [root@arif]# tcpdump -i eth0 -n src host 192.168.1.1 and dst port 443 -XX


              TSHARK



              [root@arif]# tshark -O tls -f "tcp port 443" -f "ip src 192.168.1.1" -x





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                No, it is not if you use https. When you use HTTPS your complete transaction will be encrypted.



                But as @Esa mentioned it is insecure locally. You can inspect how your data is transferred with tcpdump, tshark or Wireshark like following,



                TCPDUMP



                [root@arif]# tcpdump -i eth0 -n src host 192.168.1.1 and dst port 443 -XX


                TSHARK



                [root@arif]# tshark -O tls -f "tcp port 443" -f "ip src 192.168.1.1" -x





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                  No, it is not if you use https. When you use HTTPS your complete transaction will be encrypted.



                  But as @Esa mentioned it is insecure locally. You can inspect how your data is transferred with tcpdump, tshark or Wireshark like following,



                  TCPDUMP



                  [root@arif]# tcpdump -i eth0 -n src host 192.168.1.1 and dst port 443 -XX


                  TSHARK



                  [root@arif]# tshark -O tls -f "tcp port 443" -f "ip src 192.168.1.1" -x





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                  No, it is not if you use https. When you use HTTPS your complete transaction will be encrypted.



                  But as @Esa mentioned it is insecure locally. You can inspect how your data is transferred with tcpdump, tshark or Wireshark like following,



                  TCPDUMP



                  [root@arif]# tcpdump -i eth0 -n src host 192.168.1.1 and dst port 443 -XX


                  TSHARK



                  [root@arif]# tshark -O tls -f "tcp port 443" -f "ip src 192.168.1.1" -x






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                      The best way to protect from local users is to use a ".netrc" file; the curl man page should have details and at least, if I recall, an example.






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