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I'm not sure if this is a legitimate question to ask,but I noticed this sound change in a few germanic languages, such as Old English and German. How did it happen?






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    It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

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I'm not sure if this is a legitimate question to ask,but I noticed this sound change in a few germanic languages, such as Old English and German. How did it happen?






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    It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

    – Wilson
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I'm not sure if this is a legitimate question to ask,but I noticed this sound change in a few germanic languages, such as Old English and German. How did it happen?






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    It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

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    It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

    – Wilson
    12 hours ago








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It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

– Wilson
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It's happened in Norwegian etc as well, but only in certain phonemic contexts

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This is one form of palatalization, a very common process across languages.



Typically, /k/ fronts and spirantizes to /ç/. In isolation it often goes further, to /tʃ/, but after /s/, /sç/ may coalesce to /ʃ/.



Consider, in particular, Italian, where an original Latin 'c' (/k/) before a front vowel has usually become /tʃ/ ('ci'), but after 's' it has become /ʃ/ ('sci').






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  • An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

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This is one form of palatalization, a very common process across languages.



Typically, /k/ fronts and spirantizes to /ç/. In isolation it often goes further, to /tʃ/, but after /s/, /sç/ may coalesce to /ʃ/.



Consider, in particular, Italian, where an original Latin 'c' (/k/) before a front vowel has usually become /tʃ/ ('ci'), but after 's' it has become /ʃ/ ('sci').






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  • An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

    – Denis Nardin
    6 hours ago
















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This is one form of palatalization, a very common process across languages.



Typically, /k/ fronts and spirantizes to /ç/. In isolation it often goes further, to /tʃ/, but after /s/, /sç/ may coalesce to /ʃ/.



Consider, in particular, Italian, where an original Latin 'c' (/k/) before a front vowel has usually become /tʃ/ ('ci'), but after 's' it has become /ʃ/ ('sci').






share|improve this answer
























  • An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

    – Denis Nardin
    6 hours ago














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This is one form of palatalization, a very common process across languages.



Typically, /k/ fronts and spirantizes to /ç/. In isolation it often goes further, to /tʃ/, but after /s/, /sç/ may coalesce to /ʃ/.



Consider, in particular, Italian, where an original Latin 'c' (/k/) before a front vowel has usually become /tʃ/ ('ci'), but after 's' it has become /ʃ/ ('sci').






share|improve this answer













This is one form of palatalization, a very common process across languages.



Typically, /k/ fronts and spirantizes to /ç/. In isolation it often goes further, to /tʃ/, but after /s/, /sç/ may coalesce to /ʃ/.



Consider, in particular, Italian, where an original Latin 'c' (/k/) before a front vowel has usually become /tʃ/ ('ci'), but after 's' it has become /ʃ/ ('sci').







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  • An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

    – Denis Nardin
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  • An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

    – Denis Nardin
    6 hours ago

















An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

– Denis Nardin
6 hours ago





An interesting case is Venetian, where some words that in Italian have retained /sk/ have /stʃ/ instead, like s'ciao /stʃao/, Italian schiavo /skjavo/ 'servant, slave' from which the salutation ciao /tʃao/ (originally 'I am your servant'='at your service')

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