In + pres. participle constructions (“In performing,” “in using”)
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I'm working on preparing some text for translation into Spanish and have come across this construction, which sounds perfectly fine to me, but I've been unable to find any definition or description for it in the OED. One of the sentences in question is the following:
In performing a book-to-tax reconciliation, you must identify those items of income and deduction which differ from book to tax.
I'm trying to figure out what the appropriate meaning of in would be here (my intuition says that it's roughly synonymous with when or while.) It is covered in Wiktionary (under "used to indicate limit, qualification, condition, or circumstance") but in their examples in seems to carry more of a sense of by, and I don't think that sense applies to the above.
Does anyone know what this is called and have a source where it's precisely defined?
prepositions present-participle
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I'm working on preparing some text for translation into Spanish and have come across this construction, which sounds perfectly fine to me, but I've been unable to find any definition or description for it in the OED. One of the sentences in question is the following:
In performing a book-to-tax reconciliation, you must identify those items of income and deduction which differ from book to tax.
I'm trying to figure out what the appropriate meaning of in would be here (my intuition says that it's roughly synonymous with when or while.) It is covered in Wiktionary (under "used to indicate limit, qualification, condition, or circumstance") but in their examples in seems to carry more of a sense of by, and I don't think that sense applies to the above.
Does anyone know what this is called and have a source where it's precisely defined?
prepositions present-participle
asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
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That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
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*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37
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I'm working on preparing some text for translation into Spanish and have come across this construction, which sounds perfectly fine to me, but I've been unable to find any definition or description for it in the OED. One of the sentences in question is the following:
In performing a book-to-tax reconciliation, you must identify those items of income and deduction which differ from book to tax.
I'm trying to figure out what the appropriate meaning of in would be here (my intuition says that it's roughly synonymous with when or while.) It is covered in Wiktionary (under "used to indicate limit, qualification, condition, or circumstance") but in their examples in seems to carry more of a sense of by, and I don't think that sense applies to the above.
Does anyone know what this is called and have a source where it's precisely defined?
prepositions present-participle
asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
1062
I'm working on preparing some text for translation into Spanish and have come across this construction, which sounds perfectly fine to me, but I've been unable to find any definition or description for it in the OED. One of the sentences in question is the following:
In performing a book-to-tax reconciliation, you must identify those items of income and deduction which differ from book to tax.
I'm trying to figure out what the appropriate meaning of in would be here (my intuition says that it's roughly synonymous with when or while.) It is covered in Wiktionary (under "used to indicate limit, qualification, condition, or circumstance") but in their examples in seems to carry more of a sense of by, and I don't think that sense applies to the above.
Does anyone know what this is called and have a source where it's precisely defined?
prepositions present-participle
prepositions present-participle
asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
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asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
1062
asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
1062
asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
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asked Dec 31 '14 at 19:25
Patrick Brand
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That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
1
*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37
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That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
1
*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37
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2
That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
1
1
*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37
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Google Translate gives "en la realización de..." for "in perfoming". Would that suffice for your purposes? If so, "in performing" is ok as-is.
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Google Translate gives "en la realización de..." for "in perfoming". Would that suffice for your purposes? If so, "in performing" is ok as-is.
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Google Translate gives "en la realización de..." for "in perfoming". Would that suffice for your purposes? If so, "in performing" is ok as-is.
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That’s a gerund, not a participle, in English. In Spanish, you need an infinitive.
– tchrist♦
Dec 31 '14 at 19:35
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*In performing a root canal, the dentist must drill the tooth. Possible range of meanings: While performing, in the process of performing, in order to perform. The prepositional phrase identifies a general activity, and the rest of the sentence identifies mandatory or necessary elements within the scope of that activity.
– ScotM
Dec 31 '14 at 20:05
"Mientras preparando" gives the literal while, but the infinitive "para preparar" conveys "in order to do x". I don't know if they would use the infinitive "en preparar", although I do know they would say "Prohibido Fumar" whereas in English we would say No Smoking.
– Brian Hitchcock
Jan 2 '15 at 2:13
"In performing ..." is simply a prepositional phrase which modifies "must", specifying the conditions where "must" applies.
– Hot Licks
Feb 27 '16 at 3:37