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I know a math teacher who is going to teach a calculus class that will include the shell, disk, and washer methods for calculating volumes. My question is, is there some 3D kit she could use to demonstrate these methods physically?



Ideally for example, the washer method could be demonstrated with a cylinder that has an inner cylinder that could be removed.










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    I know a math teacher who is going to teach a calculus class that will include the shell, disk, and washer methods for calculating volumes. My question is, is there some 3D kit she could use to demonstrate these methods physically?



    Ideally for example, the washer method could be demonstrated with a cylinder that has an inner cylinder that could be removed.










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      I know a math teacher who is going to teach a calculus class that will include the shell, disk, and washer methods for calculating volumes. My question is, is there some 3D kit she could use to demonstrate these methods physically?



      Ideally for example, the washer method could be demonstrated with a cylinder that has an inner cylinder that could be removed.










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      I know a math teacher who is going to teach a calculus class that will include the shell, disk, and washer methods for calculating volumes. My question is, is there some 3D kit she could use to demonstrate these methods physically?



      Ideally for example, the washer method could be demonstrated with a cylinder that has an inner cylinder that could be removed.







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          3D printing is an attractive avenue.
          I think there is something to be gained by actual physical models.




                   


                   

          Image from Elizabeth Denne's webpages.


          See also Rebecka Peterson's Epsilon-Delta blog for low-tech alternatives:


                   


                   

          Student volume models based on cross-sections.






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            It is probably easier to make 3D computer images of such methods, using even something simple like geogebra (or using CAD software if you know how to use it), that can be projected during class, than to obtain functional physical models. The latter can be machined or made using a 3D printer, but my impression is that computer visualizations are more adaptable and adjustable, and it's not clear to me that much is gained by using an actual physical model. In most any university physics or engineering department there is someone who knows how to make such physical models, but probably it is a better use of one's time to learn to use software designed for creating visualizations. (It is also cheaper - 3D printers and 3D printing is expensive - there is free software that can be used). Moreover, computer models can be interactive in ways that physical models simply cannot. The student can see a surface of revolution as it is generated, and so forth, and can tune parameters. Physical models will be made for a (usually fairly small) finite set of surfaces of revolution; with a computer model one can visualize the surface generated by any admissible curve.



            On the other hand, some students probably benefit from touching an object. The intersection of two cylinders is good example of a surface for which a computer vizualization is probably less communicative than a physical model, simply because the surface is somehow quite hard to see.



            One recommendation would be to look into using something like geogebra. The sorts of models you describe (appropriate for a multivariable calculus class) are not hard to realize in such software and there are already many examples available online. Making quality, usable physical models requires skills and access to facilities not all of us have, and in this sense computer visualizations are more easily prepared/generated.






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            • This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
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            • @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
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            Another substitute available nowadays: computer-animated videos. They should be just as convincing as physical models.



            Search "shell integration animated" on YouTube to start. You may have to search many of the results to find one that you want to use.






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              I suppose, if you wish to illustrate the washer method then perhaps slicing a pear (see here for a picture into 10 or so horizontal slices would give you bunch of near washers with which you could estimate the volume of a pear. Then, you could even estimate the error in the calculation by the water displaced by the uncut pear. Ideally, you'd like a near circular pear, but you could estimate a mean radius if it was lumpy.



              For cylindrical shells, I have a less fruity idea involving foam sheets held together by large rubber bands around some center cylinder. But, I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. Onions are almost good, but the layers are too curved. If you could find some cylindrical onions. See, someone needs to grow cylindrical onions. Perhaps there is some other easily obtained food which illustrates the shell method.



              EDIT: Actually, the foam sheets I had in mind were way to slim to make this plausible. Perhaps Bologna would work for the right shape. It has a regular thickness and it easy to cut. I'm not sure how to arrange it to stay together.






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                For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
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              3D printing is an attractive avenue.
              I think there is something to be gained by actual physical models.




                       


                       

              Image from Elizabeth Denne's webpages.


              See also Rebecka Peterson's Epsilon-Delta blog for low-tech alternatives:


                       


                       

              Student volume models based on cross-sections.






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                3D printing is an attractive avenue.
                I think there is something to be gained by actual physical models.




                         


                         

                Image from Elizabeth Denne's webpages.


                See also Rebecka Peterson's Epsilon-Delta blog for low-tech alternatives:


                         


                         

                Student volume models based on cross-sections.






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                  3D printing is an attractive avenue.
                  I think there is something to be gained by actual physical models.




                           


                           

                  Image from Elizabeth Denne's webpages.


                  See also Rebecka Peterson's Epsilon-Delta blog for low-tech alternatives:


                           


                           

                  Student volume models based on cross-sections.






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                  3D printing is an attractive avenue.
                  I think there is something to be gained by actual physical models.




                           


                           

                  Image from Elizabeth Denne's webpages.


                  See also Rebecka Peterson's Epsilon-Delta blog for low-tech alternatives:


                           


                           

                  Student volume models based on cross-sections.







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                      It is probably easier to make 3D computer images of such methods, using even something simple like geogebra (or using CAD software if you know how to use it), that can be projected during class, than to obtain functional physical models. The latter can be machined or made using a 3D printer, but my impression is that computer visualizations are more adaptable and adjustable, and it's not clear to me that much is gained by using an actual physical model. In most any university physics or engineering department there is someone who knows how to make such physical models, but probably it is a better use of one's time to learn to use software designed for creating visualizations. (It is also cheaper - 3D printers and 3D printing is expensive - there is free software that can be used). Moreover, computer models can be interactive in ways that physical models simply cannot. The student can see a surface of revolution as it is generated, and so forth, and can tune parameters. Physical models will be made for a (usually fairly small) finite set of surfaces of revolution; with a computer model one can visualize the surface generated by any admissible curve.



                      On the other hand, some students probably benefit from touching an object. The intersection of two cylinders is good example of a surface for which a computer vizualization is probably less communicative than a physical model, simply because the surface is somehow quite hard to see.



                      One recommendation would be to look into using something like geogebra. The sorts of models you describe (appropriate for a multivariable calculus class) are not hard to realize in such software and there are already many examples available online. Making quality, usable physical models requires skills and access to facilities not all of us have, and in this sense computer visualizations are more easily prepared/generated.






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                      • This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                        – J W
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                      • @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                        – Dan Fox
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                      It is probably easier to make 3D computer images of such methods, using even something simple like geogebra (or using CAD software if you know how to use it), that can be projected during class, than to obtain functional physical models. The latter can be machined or made using a 3D printer, but my impression is that computer visualizations are more adaptable and adjustable, and it's not clear to me that much is gained by using an actual physical model. In most any university physics or engineering department there is someone who knows how to make such physical models, but probably it is a better use of one's time to learn to use software designed for creating visualizations. (It is also cheaper - 3D printers and 3D printing is expensive - there is free software that can be used). Moreover, computer models can be interactive in ways that physical models simply cannot. The student can see a surface of revolution as it is generated, and so forth, and can tune parameters. Physical models will be made for a (usually fairly small) finite set of surfaces of revolution; with a computer model one can visualize the surface generated by any admissible curve.



                      On the other hand, some students probably benefit from touching an object. The intersection of two cylinders is good example of a surface for which a computer vizualization is probably less communicative than a physical model, simply because the surface is somehow quite hard to see.



                      One recommendation would be to look into using something like geogebra. The sorts of models you describe (appropriate for a multivariable calculus class) are not hard to realize in such software and there are already many examples available online. Making quality, usable physical models requires skills and access to facilities not all of us have, and in this sense computer visualizations are more easily prepared/generated.






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                      • This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                        – J W
                        2 days ago










                      • @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                        – Dan Fox
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                      It is probably easier to make 3D computer images of such methods, using even something simple like geogebra (or using CAD software if you know how to use it), that can be projected during class, than to obtain functional physical models. The latter can be machined or made using a 3D printer, but my impression is that computer visualizations are more adaptable and adjustable, and it's not clear to me that much is gained by using an actual physical model. In most any university physics or engineering department there is someone who knows how to make such physical models, but probably it is a better use of one's time to learn to use software designed for creating visualizations. (It is also cheaper - 3D printers and 3D printing is expensive - there is free software that can be used). Moreover, computer models can be interactive in ways that physical models simply cannot. The student can see a surface of revolution as it is generated, and so forth, and can tune parameters. Physical models will be made for a (usually fairly small) finite set of surfaces of revolution; with a computer model one can visualize the surface generated by any admissible curve.



                      On the other hand, some students probably benefit from touching an object. The intersection of two cylinders is good example of a surface for which a computer vizualization is probably less communicative than a physical model, simply because the surface is somehow quite hard to see.



                      One recommendation would be to look into using something like geogebra. The sorts of models you describe (appropriate for a multivariable calculus class) are not hard to realize in such software and there are already many examples available online. Making quality, usable physical models requires skills and access to facilities not all of us have, and in this sense computer visualizations are more easily prepared/generated.






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                      It is probably easier to make 3D computer images of such methods, using even something simple like geogebra (or using CAD software if you know how to use it), that can be projected during class, than to obtain functional physical models. The latter can be machined or made using a 3D printer, but my impression is that computer visualizations are more adaptable and adjustable, and it's not clear to me that much is gained by using an actual physical model. In most any university physics or engineering department there is someone who knows how to make such physical models, but probably it is a better use of one's time to learn to use software designed for creating visualizations. (It is also cheaper - 3D printers and 3D printing is expensive - there is free software that can be used). Moreover, computer models can be interactive in ways that physical models simply cannot. The student can see a surface of revolution as it is generated, and so forth, and can tune parameters. Physical models will be made for a (usually fairly small) finite set of surfaces of revolution; with a computer model one can visualize the surface generated by any admissible curve.



                      On the other hand, some students probably benefit from touching an object. The intersection of two cylinders is good example of a surface for which a computer vizualization is probably less communicative than a physical model, simply because the surface is somehow quite hard to see.



                      One recommendation would be to look into using something like geogebra. The sorts of models you describe (appropriate for a multivariable calculus class) are not hard to realize in such software and there are already many examples available online. Making quality, usable physical models requires skills and access to facilities not all of us have, and in this sense computer visualizations are more easily prepared/generated.







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                      • This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                        – J W
                        2 days ago










                      • @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                        – Dan Fox
                        2 days ago


















                      • This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                        – J W
                        2 days ago










                      • @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                        – Dan Fox
                        2 days ago
















                      This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                      – J W
                      2 days ago




                      This has led me to wonder if research has been done on the advantages and disadvantages of physical models over 3D computer models. A quick search turned up a paper in the context of learning imaging anatomy, but what about the mathematics classroom?
                      – J W
                      2 days ago












                      @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                      – Dan Fox
                      2 days ago




                      @JW: It seems to me an interesting question, but I don't know any relevant literature. However, if someone like Joseph O'Rourke thinks that something is gained by using physical models (as his answer suggests he does), I take that seriously, because, judging from all that he has written and taught, he has lots of relevant experience and good judgment.
                      – Dan Fox
                      2 days ago











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                      Another substitute available nowadays: computer-animated videos. They should be just as convincing as physical models.



                      Search "shell integration animated" on YouTube to start. You may have to search many of the results to find one that you want to use.






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                        Another substitute available nowadays: computer-animated videos. They should be just as convincing as physical models.



                        Search "shell integration animated" on YouTube to start. You may have to search many of the results to find one that you want to use.






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                          Another substitute available nowadays: computer-animated videos. They should be just as convincing as physical models.



                          Search "shell integration animated" on YouTube to start. You may have to search many of the results to find one that you want to use.






                          share|improve this answer














                          Another substitute available nowadays: computer-animated videos. They should be just as convincing as physical models.



                          Search "shell integration animated" on YouTube to start. You may have to search many of the results to find one that you want to use.







                          share|improve this answer














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                              I suppose, if you wish to illustrate the washer method then perhaps slicing a pear (see here for a picture into 10 or so horizontal slices would give you bunch of near washers with which you could estimate the volume of a pear. Then, you could even estimate the error in the calculation by the water displaced by the uncut pear. Ideally, you'd like a near circular pear, but you could estimate a mean radius if it was lumpy.



                              For cylindrical shells, I have a less fruity idea involving foam sheets held together by large rubber bands around some center cylinder. But, I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. Onions are almost good, but the layers are too curved. If you could find some cylindrical onions. See, someone needs to grow cylindrical onions. Perhaps there is some other easily obtained food which illustrates the shell method.



                              EDIT: Actually, the foam sheets I had in mind were way to slim to make this plausible. Perhaps Bologna would work for the right shape. It has a regular thickness and it easy to cut. I'm not sure how to arrange it to stay together.






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                                For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
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                              I suppose, if you wish to illustrate the washer method then perhaps slicing a pear (see here for a picture into 10 or so horizontal slices would give you bunch of near washers with which you could estimate the volume of a pear. Then, you could even estimate the error in the calculation by the water displaced by the uncut pear. Ideally, you'd like a near circular pear, but you could estimate a mean radius if it was lumpy.



                              For cylindrical shells, I have a less fruity idea involving foam sheets held together by large rubber bands around some center cylinder. But, I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. Onions are almost good, but the layers are too curved. If you could find some cylindrical onions. See, someone needs to grow cylindrical onions. Perhaps there is some other easily obtained food which illustrates the shell method.



                              EDIT: Actually, the foam sheets I had in mind were way to slim to make this plausible. Perhaps Bologna would work for the right shape. It has a regular thickness and it easy to cut. I'm not sure how to arrange it to stay together.






                              share|improve this answer



















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                                For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
                                – alephzero
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                              I suppose, if you wish to illustrate the washer method then perhaps slicing a pear (see here for a picture into 10 or so horizontal slices would give you bunch of near washers with which you could estimate the volume of a pear. Then, you could even estimate the error in the calculation by the water displaced by the uncut pear. Ideally, you'd like a near circular pear, but you could estimate a mean radius if it was lumpy.



                              For cylindrical shells, I have a less fruity idea involving foam sheets held together by large rubber bands around some center cylinder. But, I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. Onions are almost good, but the layers are too curved. If you could find some cylindrical onions. See, someone needs to grow cylindrical onions. Perhaps there is some other easily obtained food which illustrates the shell method.



                              EDIT: Actually, the foam sheets I had in mind were way to slim to make this plausible. Perhaps Bologna would work for the right shape. It has a regular thickness and it easy to cut. I'm not sure how to arrange it to stay together.






                              share|improve this answer














                              I suppose, if you wish to illustrate the washer method then perhaps slicing a pear (see here for a picture into 10 or so horizontal slices would give you bunch of near washers with which you could estimate the volume of a pear. Then, you could even estimate the error in the calculation by the water displaced by the uncut pear. Ideally, you'd like a near circular pear, but you could estimate a mean radius if it was lumpy.



                              For cylindrical shells, I have a less fruity idea involving foam sheets held together by large rubber bands around some center cylinder. But, I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet. Onions are almost good, but the layers are too curved. If you could find some cylindrical onions. See, someone needs to grow cylindrical onions. Perhaps there is some other easily obtained food which illustrates the shell method.



                              EDIT: Actually, the foam sheets I had in mind were way to slim to make this plausible. Perhaps Bologna would work for the right shape. It has a regular thickness and it easy to cut. I'm not sure how to arrange it to stay together.







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                                For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
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                                For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
                                – alephzero
                                2 days ago








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                              For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
                              – alephzero
                              2 days ago




                              For "cylindrical onions," use carrots. There are varieties which are more cylindrical than conical - e.g. thompson-morgan.com/p/carrot-resistafly-f1-hybrid/684TM
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