What makes a laptop overheat?
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Is there a correlation between CPU usage and heat? RAM usage? Other things?
How can software affect overheating in a laptop?
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Is there a correlation between CPU usage and heat? RAM usage? Other things?
How can software affect overheating in a laptop?
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Note that various "background tasks", wanted and unwanted, can contribute significantly to CPU utilization, and hence heating. Many antivirus products burn quite a bit of CPU/power when running "in background", as do things like the Windows indexer. There are also out-and-out bugs (like the "Vista 50% CPU" problem, and, of course, various malwares that can burn the CPU (and generate heat). You can install Windows "Process Explorer" (MS-distributed tool) on your system to better identify what's burning the CPU.
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Jul 4 '11 at 19:24
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Is there a correlation between CPU usage and heat? RAM usage? Other things?
How can software affect overheating in a laptop?
laptop cooling
Is there a correlation between CPU usage and heat? RAM usage? Other things?
How can software affect overheating in a laptop?
laptop cooling
laptop cooling
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Note that various "background tasks", wanted and unwanted, can contribute significantly to CPU utilization, and hence heating. Many antivirus products burn quite a bit of CPU/power when running "in background", as do things like the Windows indexer. There are also out-and-out bugs (like the "Vista 50% CPU" problem, and, of course, various malwares that can burn the CPU (and generate heat). You can install Windows "Process Explorer" (MS-distributed tool) on your system to better identify what's burning the CPU.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:24
add a comment |
Note that various "background tasks", wanted and unwanted, can contribute significantly to CPU utilization, and hence heating. Many antivirus products burn quite a bit of CPU/power when running "in background", as do things like the Windows indexer. There are also out-and-out bugs (like the "Vista 50% CPU" problem, and, of course, various malwares that can burn the CPU (and generate heat). You can install Windows "Process Explorer" (MS-distributed tool) on your system to better identify what's burning the CPU.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:24
Note that various "background tasks", wanted and unwanted, can contribute significantly to CPU utilization, and hence heating. Many antivirus products burn quite a bit of CPU/power when running "in background", as do things like the Windows indexer. There are also out-and-out bugs (like the "Vista 50% CPU" problem, and, of course, various malwares that can burn the CPU (and generate heat). You can install Windows "Process Explorer" (MS-distributed tool) on your system to better identify what's burning the CPU.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:24
Note that various "background tasks", wanted and unwanted, can contribute significantly to CPU utilization, and hence heating. Many antivirus products burn quite a bit of CPU/power when running "in background", as do things like the Windows indexer. There are also out-and-out bugs (like the "Vista 50% CPU" problem, and, of course, various malwares that can burn the CPU (and generate heat). You can install Windows "Process Explorer" (MS-distributed tool) on your system to better identify what's burning the CPU.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:24
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Is there a correlation between CPU
usage and heat?
Yes. Most modern-day computers allow the CPU to "down-throttle" at idle, use less power (thus producing less heat). This is why when building desktops, it is common to "burn in" a CPU by using it at 100% load for a few hours to determine the highest temperature that is hit.
It should also be noted that while core frequency does contribute to heat, this effect is much smaller then how much CPU loading causes the temperature to rise. This is because certain instructions use different electrical pathways in the microprocessor. To give a real-world example here, there have been various power viruses written in the past, which take advantage of this fact to repeatedly execute specific machine code which draws the most power (and thus produces the most heat).
RAM usage?
While RAM usage does correlate with how hot the individual memory chips get, this effect is very insignificant compared to CPU/GPU loading (since the memory is clocked at a constant rate). It is highly unlikely to be the cause of any overheating issues.
Other things?
The other two things that come to mind are the GPU and the motherboard itself. As with the CPU, a GPU can down-throttle at idle, and use less power when not in use (and thus resulting in lower temperatures).
The second thing, the motherboard, heats up due to a variety of things. These can be either significant or insignificant, depending on the motherboard architecture itself. For example, some motherboards allow variable loading on their supplied power to devices, which use high frequency voltage regulators. Under load, the duty cycle and frequency of the voltage regulators ramp up to improve your system's stability (at the cost of more heat).
How can software affect overheating in
a laptop?
Software is the primary factor which determines CPU and GPU usage, since software essentially controls these hardware devices. As such, using software which constantly loads the CPU will cause any computer to heat up more then it would at idle.
The last thing that most people with a laptop do not think of is the power supply (AC adapter or battery). Regardless of the situation, if your computer needs more power for some reason, your battery or your AC adapter will get hotter with the increase in power draw. I only mention this here, however, because this effect is not as significant as those I have listed above.
One more small addition I think is worth mentioning, is that thermal paste loses it's heat conducting properties over time. This is for a variety of reasons (heat exposure, oxidation, evaporation, etc...), but it is an issue nonetheless. Thermal paste has a few years lifespan in a computer, and afterwards, it may be worthwhile to "re-seat" your heatsinks (both in your desktop and laptop) with new thermal paste.
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Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
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Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
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Put simply, the more complex the task a CPU has to perform, the more power it has to spend in order to solve it quickly, much like driving a car uphill requires more gas. A direct byproduct of this is excess heat.
If your computer is just sat at the desktop, the CPU will only use what it needs to maintain the basic background services and interactivity. If you are doing something very complex like playing modern 3D games or encoding video, power use will ramp up exceptionally.
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I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:08
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Of course, as the others said, CPU usage can be a factor if it is running constantly at 100% usage, but to answer the main question, "What makes a laptop overheat?", probably the single biggest thing is not using compressed air to blow out your heat sink/cpu fan.
I recommend doing this on a regular basis, at least monthly, and your laptop will probably live a lot longer.
I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
– nute
Jul 4 '11 at 18:18
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There is a direct correlation between CPU usage and heat.
I recently witnessed 14 machines in a computer lab run stupidly hot after being upgraded to Windows 7. Disabling the eyecandy brought the temp down immediately. In general, if you are having heat issues and suspect software as the culprit, disable unnecessary services.
Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
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@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
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Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
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Computers are huge hubs for heat because of the constant use of all the components to create a nice GUI display and be able to run eleventy billion applications are once. This is why all computers should have fans strategically placed to create air flow (not just push air around but circulate it) and a heatsink on top of the CPU.
In the case of a laptop, there's a lot less room and usually heatsinks are not as big or efficient. Most laptops have fans on the side that attempt to create some circulation, but it doesn't help that most of the time the laptop is resting on a thermal insulator (material that doesn't conduct heat very well, ie a wood table).
The CPU is the central part of the computer and most of the data will end up going through it. That means that the more things your run and the more load you place on your laptop will make the CPU work harder and therefore release more heat. All this coupled with minimal air circulation and a thermal insulator makes laptops get very hot very quickly.
As for your question about RAM, every component of a computer will give off some heat. The CPU is just the obvious one to rip on. Some higher end graphics cards even come with heatsinks on them to help cool them down.
This is what happens when the air doesn't circulate enough....
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Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
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I was going for effect :)
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Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
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Unfortunately "laptops" are mis-named, if you use it on your lap (without a tray) then the chances are that you're blocking some or all of the cooling vents.
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A brand new laptop might get warm but it should not overheat, not unless you are running Crysis with all of the options enabled :-)
However, over time the fan that does the cooling sucks in more dust than it blows out. As a consequence the cooling no longer works efficiently. It then has to come on more often, having the consequence of sucking in more dust. This in turn stops the fan working effectively. Eventually the fan is on the whole time doing very little cooling. At this time the laptop overheats and you get those little BIOS 'I had to shutdown' messages.
Another problem that happens over time is that when the laptop runs hot the thermal paste between the CPU/GPU and the peltier-effect big copper tube dries out and no longer transfers heat away from the CPU/GPU.
So, to answer the question based on a real-world scenario: What makes a laptop overheat? - the fan (and cooling fins on the big copper tube) getting covered in insulating dust and grime followed by the thermal paste on the CPU drying out.
To remedy the situation you need a vacumn. Simply suck the dirt out of the vents. If the problem persists, follow the instructions in the service manual (or on YouTube) for taking part the laptop, give it a clean, check the thermal paste on the CPU has not fried, put some new paste on if it has, then put it back together again (fully in anticipation of having at least one screw left over).
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Overheating credit also need to be given to laptop manufacturers who contribute to bad heat sink design
Another cause of overheat is when cooling fan vent is blocked, like when laptop is on bed or if it is faulty
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8 Answers
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up vote
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Is there a correlation between CPU
usage and heat?
Yes. Most modern-day computers allow the CPU to "down-throttle" at idle, use less power (thus producing less heat). This is why when building desktops, it is common to "burn in" a CPU by using it at 100% load for a few hours to determine the highest temperature that is hit.
It should also be noted that while core frequency does contribute to heat, this effect is much smaller then how much CPU loading causes the temperature to rise. This is because certain instructions use different electrical pathways in the microprocessor. To give a real-world example here, there have been various power viruses written in the past, which take advantage of this fact to repeatedly execute specific machine code which draws the most power (and thus produces the most heat).
RAM usage?
While RAM usage does correlate with how hot the individual memory chips get, this effect is very insignificant compared to CPU/GPU loading (since the memory is clocked at a constant rate). It is highly unlikely to be the cause of any overheating issues.
Other things?
The other two things that come to mind are the GPU and the motherboard itself. As with the CPU, a GPU can down-throttle at idle, and use less power when not in use (and thus resulting in lower temperatures).
The second thing, the motherboard, heats up due to a variety of things. These can be either significant or insignificant, depending on the motherboard architecture itself. For example, some motherboards allow variable loading on their supplied power to devices, which use high frequency voltage regulators. Under load, the duty cycle and frequency of the voltage regulators ramp up to improve your system's stability (at the cost of more heat).
How can software affect overheating in
a laptop?
Software is the primary factor which determines CPU and GPU usage, since software essentially controls these hardware devices. As such, using software which constantly loads the CPU will cause any computer to heat up more then it would at idle.
The last thing that most people with a laptop do not think of is the power supply (AC adapter or battery). Regardless of the situation, if your computer needs more power for some reason, your battery or your AC adapter will get hotter with the increase in power draw. I only mention this here, however, because this effect is not as significant as those I have listed above.
One more small addition I think is worth mentioning, is that thermal paste loses it's heat conducting properties over time. This is for a variety of reasons (heat exposure, oxidation, evaporation, etc...), but it is an issue nonetheless. Thermal paste has a few years lifespan in a computer, and afterwards, it may be worthwhile to "re-seat" your heatsinks (both in your desktop and laptop) with new thermal paste.
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Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
3
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
21
down vote
accepted
Is there a correlation between CPU
usage and heat?
Yes. Most modern-day computers allow the CPU to "down-throttle" at idle, use less power (thus producing less heat). This is why when building desktops, it is common to "burn in" a CPU by using it at 100% load for a few hours to determine the highest temperature that is hit.
It should also be noted that while core frequency does contribute to heat, this effect is much smaller then how much CPU loading causes the temperature to rise. This is because certain instructions use different electrical pathways in the microprocessor. To give a real-world example here, there have been various power viruses written in the past, which take advantage of this fact to repeatedly execute specific machine code which draws the most power (and thus produces the most heat).
RAM usage?
While RAM usage does correlate with how hot the individual memory chips get, this effect is very insignificant compared to CPU/GPU loading (since the memory is clocked at a constant rate). It is highly unlikely to be the cause of any overheating issues.
Other things?
The other two things that come to mind are the GPU and the motherboard itself. As with the CPU, a GPU can down-throttle at idle, and use less power when not in use (and thus resulting in lower temperatures).
The second thing, the motherboard, heats up due to a variety of things. These can be either significant or insignificant, depending on the motherboard architecture itself. For example, some motherboards allow variable loading on their supplied power to devices, which use high frequency voltage regulators. Under load, the duty cycle and frequency of the voltage regulators ramp up to improve your system's stability (at the cost of more heat).
How can software affect overheating in
a laptop?
Software is the primary factor which determines CPU and GPU usage, since software essentially controls these hardware devices. As such, using software which constantly loads the CPU will cause any computer to heat up more then it would at idle.
The last thing that most people with a laptop do not think of is the power supply (AC adapter or battery). Regardless of the situation, if your computer needs more power for some reason, your battery or your AC adapter will get hotter with the increase in power draw. I only mention this here, however, because this effect is not as significant as those I have listed above.
One more small addition I think is worth mentioning, is that thermal paste loses it's heat conducting properties over time. This is for a variety of reasons (heat exposure, oxidation, evaporation, etc...), but it is an issue nonetheless. Thermal paste has a few years lifespan in a computer, and afterwards, it may be worthwhile to "re-seat" your heatsinks (both in your desktop and laptop) with new thermal paste.
12
Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
3
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
21
down vote
accepted
up vote
21
down vote
accepted
Is there a correlation between CPU
usage and heat?
Yes. Most modern-day computers allow the CPU to "down-throttle" at idle, use less power (thus producing less heat). This is why when building desktops, it is common to "burn in" a CPU by using it at 100% load for a few hours to determine the highest temperature that is hit.
It should also be noted that while core frequency does contribute to heat, this effect is much smaller then how much CPU loading causes the temperature to rise. This is because certain instructions use different electrical pathways in the microprocessor. To give a real-world example here, there have been various power viruses written in the past, which take advantage of this fact to repeatedly execute specific machine code which draws the most power (and thus produces the most heat).
RAM usage?
While RAM usage does correlate with how hot the individual memory chips get, this effect is very insignificant compared to CPU/GPU loading (since the memory is clocked at a constant rate). It is highly unlikely to be the cause of any overheating issues.
Other things?
The other two things that come to mind are the GPU and the motherboard itself. As with the CPU, a GPU can down-throttle at idle, and use less power when not in use (and thus resulting in lower temperatures).
The second thing, the motherboard, heats up due to a variety of things. These can be either significant or insignificant, depending on the motherboard architecture itself. For example, some motherboards allow variable loading on their supplied power to devices, which use high frequency voltage regulators. Under load, the duty cycle and frequency of the voltage regulators ramp up to improve your system's stability (at the cost of more heat).
How can software affect overheating in
a laptop?
Software is the primary factor which determines CPU and GPU usage, since software essentially controls these hardware devices. As such, using software which constantly loads the CPU will cause any computer to heat up more then it would at idle.
The last thing that most people with a laptop do not think of is the power supply (AC adapter or battery). Regardless of the situation, if your computer needs more power for some reason, your battery or your AC adapter will get hotter with the increase in power draw. I only mention this here, however, because this effect is not as significant as those I have listed above.
One more small addition I think is worth mentioning, is that thermal paste loses it's heat conducting properties over time. This is for a variety of reasons (heat exposure, oxidation, evaporation, etc...), but it is an issue nonetheless. Thermal paste has a few years lifespan in a computer, and afterwards, it may be worthwhile to "re-seat" your heatsinks (both in your desktop and laptop) with new thermal paste.
Is there a correlation between CPU
usage and heat?
Yes. Most modern-day computers allow the CPU to "down-throttle" at idle, use less power (thus producing less heat). This is why when building desktops, it is common to "burn in" a CPU by using it at 100% load for a few hours to determine the highest temperature that is hit.
It should also be noted that while core frequency does contribute to heat, this effect is much smaller then how much CPU loading causes the temperature to rise. This is because certain instructions use different electrical pathways in the microprocessor. To give a real-world example here, there have been various power viruses written in the past, which take advantage of this fact to repeatedly execute specific machine code which draws the most power (and thus produces the most heat).
RAM usage?
While RAM usage does correlate with how hot the individual memory chips get, this effect is very insignificant compared to CPU/GPU loading (since the memory is clocked at a constant rate). It is highly unlikely to be the cause of any overheating issues.
Other things?
The other two things that come to mind are the GPU and the motherboard itself. As with the CPU, a GPU can down-throttle at idle, and use less power when not in use (and thus resulting in lower temperatures).
The second thing, the motherboard, heats up due to a variety of things. These can be either significant or insignificant, depending on the motherboard architecture itself. For example, some motherboards allow variable loading on their supplied power to devices, which use high frequency voltage regulators. Under load, the duty cycle and frequency of the voltage regulators ramp up to improve your system's stability (at the cost of more heat).
How can software affect overheating in
a laptop?
Software is the primary factor which determines CPU and GPU usage, since software essentially controls these hardware devices. As such, using software which constantly loads the CPU will cause any computer to heat up more then it would at idle.
The last thing that most people with a laptop do not think of is the power supply (AC adapter or battery). Regardless of the situation, if your computer needs more power for some reason, your battery or your AC adapter will get hotter with the increase in power draw. I only mention this here, however, because this effect is not as significant as those I have listed above.
One more small addition I think is worth mentioning, is that thermal paste loses it's heat conducting properties over time. This is for a variety of reasons (heat exposure, oxidation, evaporation, etc...), but it is an issue nonetheless. Thermal paste has a few years lifespan in a computer, and afterwards, it may be worthwhile to "re-seat" your heatsinks (both in your desktop and laptop) with new thermal paste.
edited Jul 4 '11 at 18:11
answered Jul 4 '11 at 17:18
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Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
3
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
|
show 1 more comment
12
Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
3
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
12
12
Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
Comprehensive collection of causes, but you missed: Cooling vents being blocked. A common cause for laptop overheating is placing them on a surface (e.g. cushion) which blocks the vents thus rendering the cooling system inefficient.
– user12889
Jul 4 '11 at 23:26
3
3
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
Also missed: hard disk drives. They get very, very hot in such tight spots.
– Vinko Vrsalovic
Jul 6 '11 at 12:18
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
@Vinko Vrsalovic, while hard drives do create heat, I will argue that it is a negligible amount, even in tight spaces. Most laptop hard drives (and solid state drives, for that matter) draw around 2 Watts under full load. While you do still need adequate cooling, most laptop hard drives (mine included) are pretty much enclosed and rely on passive cooling (i.e. that the chassis temperature of the actual laptop itself is maintained).
– Breakthrough
Jul 8 '11 at 16:39
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
Maybe hard drive in your laptop does not heat up a lot, but mine sure does.
– Juozas Kontvainis
Aug 18 '11 at 9:23
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
So does mine, 50C when copying ISO files or at full load.
– WindowsEscapist
Nov 12 '12 at 18:55
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Put simply, the more complex the task a CPU has to perform, the more power it has to spend in order to solve it quickly, much like driving a car uphill requires more gas. A direct byproduct of this is excess heat.
If your computer is just sat at the desktop, the CPU will only use what it needs to maintain the basic background services and interactivity. If you are doing something very complex like playing modern 3D games or encoding video, power use will ramp up exceptionally.
2
I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:08
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up vote
4
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Put simply, the more complex the task a CPU has to perform, the more power it has to spend in order to solve it quickly, much like driving a car uphill requires more gas. A direct byproduct of this is excess heat.
If your computer is just sat at the desktop, the CPU will only use what it needs to maintain the basic background services and interactivity. If you are doing something very complex like playing modern 3D games or encoding video, power use will ramp up exceptionally.
2
I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:08
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up vote
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up vote
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Put simply, the more complex the task a CPU has to perform, the more power it has to spend in order to solve it quickly, much like driving a car uphill requires more gas. A direct byproduct of this is excess heat.
If your computer is just sat at the desktop, the CPU will only use what it needs to maintain the basic background services and interactivity. If you are doing something very complex like playing modern 3D games or encoding video, power use will ramp up exceptionally.
Put simply, the more complex the task a CPU has to perform, the more power it has to spend in order to solve it quickly, much like driving a car uphill requires more gas. A direct byproduct of this is excess heat.
If your computer is just sat at the desktop, the CPU will only use what it needs to maintain the basic background services and interactivity. If you are doing something very complex like playing modern 3D games or encoding video, power use will ramp up exceptionally.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 14:01
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I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:08
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I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
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I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:08
I just want to mention that an increase in power usage is directly correlated with increased temperatures, since all the energy used by a (modern solid-state) computer is eventually turned into heat. So yes, your laptop essentially is a 100W heater.
– Breakthrough
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Of course, as the others said, CPU usage can be a factor if it is running constantly at 100% usage, but to answer the main question, "What makes a laptop overheat?", probably the single biggest thing is not using compressed air to blow out your heat sink/cpu fan.
I recommend doing this on a regular basis, at least monthly, and your laptop will probably live a lot longer.
I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
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Of course, as the others said, CPU usage can be a factor if it is running constantly at 100% usage, but to answer the main question, "What makes a laptop overheat?", probably the single biggest thing is not using compressed air to blow out your heat sink/cpu fan.
I recommend doing this on a regular basis, at least monthly, and your laptop will probably live a lot longer.
I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
– nute
Jul 4 '11 at 18:18
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Of course, as the others said, CPU usage can be a factor if it is running constantly at 100% usage, but to answer the main question, "What makes a laptop overheat?", probably the single biggest thing is not using compressed air to blow out your heat sink/cpu fan.
I recommend doing this on a regular basis, at least monthly, and your laptop will probably live a lot longer.
Of course, as the others said, CPU usage can be a factor if it is running constantly at 100% usage, but to answer the main question, "What makes a laptop overheat?", probably the single biggest thing is not using compressed air to blow out your heat sink/cpu fan.
I recommend doing this on a regular basis, at least monthly, and your laptop will probably live a lot longer.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 14:13
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I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
– nute
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I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
– nute
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I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
– nute
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I don't see those on MacBook Pros actually
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There is a direct correlation between CPU usage and heat.
I recently witnessed 14 machines in a computer lab run stupidly hot after being upgraded to Windows 7. Disabling the eyecandy brought the temp down immediately. In general, if you are having heat issues and suspect software as the culprit, disable unnecessary services.
Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
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@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
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Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
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There is a direct correlation between CPU usage and heat.
I recently witnessed 14 machines in a computer lab run stupidly hot after being upgraded to Windows 7. Disabling the eyecandy brought the temp down immediately. In general, if you are having heat issues and suspect software as the culprit, disable unnecessary services.
Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
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@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
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Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
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up vote
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There is a direct correlation between CPU usage and heat.
I recently witnessed 14 machines in a computer lab run stupidly hot after being upgraded to Windows 7. Disabling the eyecandy brought the temp down immediately. In general, if you are having heat issues and suspect software as the culprit, disable unnecessary services.
There is a direct correlation between CPU usage and heat.
I recently witnessed 14 machines in a computer lab run stupidly hot after being upgraded to Windows 7. Disabling the eyecandy brought the temp down immediately. In general, if you are having heat issues and suspect software as the culprit, disable unnecessary services.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 14:03
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Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
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@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
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Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
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Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
2
@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
2
Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
Wow, that is interesting! I didn't realise Aero had such an effect!
– Ruairi Fullam
Jul 4 '11 at 14:05
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@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
@Rualri; It doesn't, at least under normal circumstances.
– Phoshi
Jul 4 '11 at 14:21
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2
Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
Unless your hardware is way too old to be running Aero, it shouldn't.
– Breakthrough
Jul 4 '11 at 17:05
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Computers are huge hubs for heat because of the constant use of all the components to create a nice GUI display and be able to run eleventy billion applications are once. This is why all computers should have fans strategically placed to create air flow (not just push air around but circulate it) and a heatsink on top of the CPU.
In the case of a laptop, there's a lot less room and usually heatsinks are not as big or efficient. Most laptops have fans on the side that attempt to create some circulation, but it doesn't help that most of the time the laptop is resting on a thermal insulator (material that doesn't conduct heat very well, ie a wood table).
The CPU is the central part of the computer and most of the data will end up going through it. That means that the more things your run and the more load you place on your laptop will make the CPU work harder and therefore release more heat. All this coupled with minimal air circulation and a thermal insulator makes laptops get very hot very quickly.
As for your question about RAM, every component of a computer will give off some heat. The CPU is just the obvious one to rip on. Some higher end graphics cards even come with heatsinks on them to help cool them down.
This is what happens when the air doesn't circulate enough....
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Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
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I was going for effect :)
– n0pe
Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
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Computers are huge hubs for heat because of the constant use of all the components to create a nice GUI display and be able to run eleventy billion applications are once. This is why all computers should have fans strategically placed to create air flow (not just push air around but circulate it) and a heatsink on top of the CPU.
In the case of a laptop, there's a lot less room and usually heatsinks are not as big or efficient. Most laptops have fans on the side that attempt to create some circulation, but it doesn't help that most of the time the laptop is resting on a thermal insulator (material that doesn't conduct heat very well, ie a wood table).
The CPU is the central part of the computer and most of the data will end up going through it. That means that the more things your run and the more load you place on your laptop will make the CPU work harder and therefore release more heat. All this coupled with minimal air circulation and a thermal insulator makes laptops get very hot very quickly.
As for your question about RAM, every component of a computer will give off some heat. The CPU is just the obvious one to rip on. Some higher end graphics cards even come with heatsinks on them to help cool them down.
This is what happens when the air doesn't circulate enough....
2
Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
1
I was going for effect :)
– n0pe
Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
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Computers are huge hubs for heat because of the constant use of all the components to create a nice GUI display and be able to run eleventy billion applications are once. This is why all computers should have fans strategically placed to create air flow (not just push air around but circulate it) and a heatsink on top of the CPU.
In the case of a laptop, there's a lot less room and usually heatsinks are not as big or efficient. Most laptops have fans on the side that attempt to create some circulation, but it doesn't help that most of the time the laptop is resting on a thermal insulator (material that doesn't conduct heat very well, ie a wood table).
The CPU is the central part of the computer and most of the data will end up going through it. That means that the more things your run and the more load you place on your laptop will make the CPU work harder and therefore release more heat. All this coupled with minimal air circulation and a thermal insulator makes laptops get very hot very quickly.
As for your question about RAM, every component of a computer will give off some heat. The CPU is just the obvious one to rip on. Some higher end graphics cards even come with heatsinks on them to help cool them down.
This is what happens when the air doesn't circulate enough....
Computers are huge hubs for heat because of the constant use of all the components to create a nice GUI display and be able to run eleventy billion applications are once. This is why all computers should have fans strategically placed to create air flow (not just push air around but circulate it) and a heatsink on top of the CPU.
In the case of a laptop, there's a lot less room and usually heatsinks are not as big or efficient. Most laptops have fans on the side that attempt to create some circulation, but it doesn't help that most of the time the laptop is resting on a thermal insulator (material that doesn't conduct heat very well, ie a wood table).
The CPU is the central part of the computer and most of the data will end up going through it. That means that the more things your run and the more load you place on your laptop will make the CPU work harder and therefore release more heat. All this coupled with minimal air circulation and a thermal insulator makes laptops get very hot very quickly.
As for your question about RAM, every component of a computer will give off some heat. The CPU is just the obvious one to rip on. Some higher end graphics cards even come with heatsinks on them to help cool them down.
This is what happens when the air doesn't circulate enough....
edited Jul 4 '11 at 15:00
answered Jul 4 '11 at 14:55
n0pe
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Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
1
I was going for effect :)
– n0pe
Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
add a comment |
2
Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
1
I was going for effect :)
– n0pe
Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
2
2
Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
Although that appears to be one where the battery caught fire -- possibly just a LiIon failure.
– Daniel R Hicks
Jul 4 '11 at 19:25
1
1
I was going for effect :)
– n0pe
Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
I was going for effect :)
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Jul 4 '11 at 19:52
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Other:
Unfortunately "laptops" are mis-named, if you use it on your lap (without a tray) then the chances are that you're blocking some or all of the cooling vents.
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Unfortunately "laptops" are mis-named, if you use it on your lap (without a tray) then the chances are that you're blocking some or all of the cooling vents.
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Other:
Unfortunately "laptops" are mis-named, if you use it on your lap (without a tray) then the chances are that you're blocking some or all of the cooling vents.
Other:
Unfortunately "laptops" are mis-named, if you use it on your lap (without a tray) then the chances are that you're blocking some or all of the cooling vents.
answered Jul 4 '11 at 18:23
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A brand new laptop might get warm but it should not overheat, not unless you are running Crysis with all of the options enabled :-)
However, over time the fan that does the cooling sucks in more dust than it blows out. As a consequence the cooling no longer works efficiently. It then has to come on more often, having the consequence of sucking in more dust. This in turn stops the fan working effectively. Eventually the fan is on the whole time doing very little cooling. At this time the laptop overheats and you get those little BIOS 'I had to shutdown' messages.
Another problem that happens over time is that when the laptop runs hot the thermal paste between the CPU/GPU and the peltier-effect big copper tube dries out and no longer transfers heat away from the CPU/GPU.
So, to answer the question based on a real-world scenario: What makes a laptop overheat? - the fan (and cooling fins on the big copper tube) getting covered in insulating dust and grime followed by the thermal paste on the CPU drying out.
To remedy the situation you need a vacumn. Simply suck the dirt out of the vents. If the problem persists, follow the instructions in the service manual (or on YouTube) for taking part the laptop, give it a clean, check the thermal paste on the CPU has not fried, put some new paste on if it has, then put it back together again (fully in anticipation of having at least one screw left over).
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A brand new laptop might get warm but it should not overheat, not unless you are running Crysis with all of the options enabled :-)
However, over time the fan that does the cooling sucks in more dust than it blows out. As a consequence the cooling no longer works efficiently. It then has to come on more often, having the consequence of sucking in more dust. This in turn stops the fan working effectively. Eventually the fan is on the whole time doing very little cooling. At this time the laptop overheats and you get those little BIOS 'I had to shutdown' messages.
Another problem that happens over time is that when the laptop runs hot the thermal paste between the CPU/GPU and the peltier-effect big copper tube dries out and no longer transfers heat away from the CPU/GPU.
So, to answer the question based on a real-world scenario: What makes a laptop overheat? - the fan (and cooling fins on the big copper tube) getting covered in insulating dust and grime followed by the thermal paste on the CPU drying out.
To remedy the situation you need a vacumn. Simply suck the dirt out of the vents. If the problem persists, follow the instructions in the service manual (or on YouTube) for taking part the laptop, give it a clean, check the thermal paste on the CPU has not fried, put some new paste on if it has, then put it back together again (fully in anticipation of having at least one screw left over).
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A brand new laptop might get warm but it should not overheat, not unless you are running Crysis with all of the options enabled :-)
However, over time the fan that does the cooling sucks in more dust than it blows out. As a consequence the cooling no longer works efficiently. It then has to come on more often, having the consequence of sucking in more dust. This in turn stops the fan working effectively. Eventually the fan is on the whole time doing very little cooling. At this time the laptop overheats and you get those little BIOS 'I had to shutdown' messages.
Another problem that happens over time is that when the laptop runs hot the thermal paste between the CPU/GPU and the peltier-effect big copper tube dries out and no longer transfers heat away from the CPU/GPU.
So, to answer the question based on a real-world scenario: What makes a laptop overheat? - the fan (and cooling fins on the big copper tube) getting covered in insulating dust and grime followed by the thermal paste on the CPU drying out.
To remedy the situation you need a vacumn. Simply suck the dirt out of the vents. If the problem persists, follow the instructions in the service manual (or on YouTube) for taking part the laptop, give it a clean, check the thermal paste on the CPU has not fried, put some new paste on if it has, then put it back together again (fully in anticipation of having at least one screw left over).
A brand new laptop might get warm but it should not overheat, not unless you are running Crysis with all of the options enabled :-)
However, over time the fan that does the cooling sucks in more dust than it blows out. As a consequence the cooling no longer works efficiently. It then has to come on more often, having the consequence of sucking in more dust. This in turn stops the fan working effectively. Eventually the fan is on the whole time doing very little cooling. At this time the laptop overheats and you get those little BIOS 'I had to shutdown' messages.
Another problem that happens over time is that when the laptop runs hot the thermal paste between the CPU/GPU and the peltier-effect big copper tube dries out and no longer transfers heat away from the CPU/GPU.
So, to answer the question based on a real-world scenario: What makes a laptop overheat? - the fan (and cooling fins on the big copper tube) getting covered in insulating dust and grime followed by the thermal paste on the CPU drying out.
To remedy the situation you need a vacumn. Simply suck the dirt out of the vents. If the problem persists, follow the instructions in the service manual (or on YouTube) for taking part the laptop, give it a clean, check the thermal paste on the CPU has not fried, put some new paste on if it has, then put it back together again (fully in anticipation of having at least one screw left over).
answered Jul 4 '11 at 18:04
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Overheating credit also need to be given to laptop manufacturers who contribute to bad heat sink design
Another cause of overheat is when cooling fan vent is blocked, like when laptop is on bed or if it is faulty
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Overheating credit also need to be given to laptop manufacturers who contribute to bad heat sink design
Another cause of overheat is when cooling fan vent is blocked, like when laptop is on bed or if it is faulty
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Overheating credit also need to be given to laptop manufacturers who contribute to bad heat sink design
Another cause of overheat is when cooling fan vent is blocked, like when laptop is on bed or if it is faulty
Overheating credit also need to be given to laptop manufacturers who contribute to bad heat sink design
Another cause of overheat is when cooling fan vent is blocked, like when laptop is on bed or if it is faulty
answered Jul 4 '11 at 20:09
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