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So what I am trying to type is the square of the derivative of vector x. I tried dot{vec{x}}^{,2} as well as dot{vec{x}^2}, but the outputs came out to be very offset. Is there a correct way to do this?



The code I used is:



begin{equation}    
L=frac{1}{2} m dot{vec{x^2}}
end{equation}


which give me



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So what I am trying to type is the square of the derivative of vector x. I tried dot{vec{x}}^{,2} as well as dot{vec{x}^2}, but the outputs came out to be very offset. Is there a correct way to do this?



The code I used is:



begin{equation}    
L=frac{1}{2} m dot{vec{x^2}}
end{equation}


which give me



enter image description here










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  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Can you please, as usual here -- show us a short compilable code and an screenshot of your result?
    – Kurt
    Dec 7 at 5:04






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    One reason more for not using the arrow for vectors.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46













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So what I am trying to type is the square of the derivative of vector x. I tried dot{vec{x}}^{,2} as well as dot{vec{x}^2}, but the outputs came out to be very offset. Is there a correct way to do this?



The code I used is:



begin{equation}    
L=frac{1}{2} m dot{vec{x^2}}
end{equation}


which give me



enter image description here










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So what I am trying to type is the square of the derivative of vector x. I tried dot{vec{x}}^{,2} as well as dot{vec{x}^2}, but the outputs came out to be very offset. Is there a correct way to do this?



The code I used is:



begin{equation}    
L=frac{1}{2} m dot{vec{x^2}}
end{equation}


which give me



enter image description here







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  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Can you please, as usual here -- show us a short compilable code and an screenshot of your result?
    – Kurt
    Dec 7 at 5:04






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    One reason more for not using the arrow for vectors.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46


















  • Welcome to TeX.SE! Can you please, as usual here -- show us a short compilable code and an screenshot of your result?
    – Kurt
    Dec 7 at 5:04






  • 1




    One reason more for not using the arrow for vectors.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46
















Welcome to TeX.SE! Can you please, as usual here -- show us a short compilable code and an screenshot of your result?
– Kurt
Dec 7 at 5:04




Welcome to TeX.SE! Can you please, as usual here -- show us a short compilable code and an screenshot of your result?
– Kurt
Dec 7 at 5:04




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1




One reason more for not using the arrow for vectors.
– egreg
Dec 7 at 8:46




One reason more for not using the arrow for vectors.
– egreg
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documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation}
L=frac{1}{2} m Dot{vec{x}}^2
end{equation}
end{document}


enter image description here



because the Lagrange function is a function of the square of the time derivative of x (and not the time derivative of the square of x).






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  • That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:27










  • Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:29










  • @KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 5:30






  • 1




    @marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 5:35






  • 1




    At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46


















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The first or third option below may be close to what you're looking for. Or, switch from Newton-style to Leibniz-style notation for the derivative, as shown by the fourth option (newly fixed to incorporated @marmot's comment). A separate comment: to make the frac{1}{2} term less visually dominant, consider using tfrac instead of frac.



enter image description here



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath} % for tfrac macro and general accent-placement support
begin{document}
[
tfrac{1}{2}m dot{vec{x}} ^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^{,2} quad
tfrac{1}{2}mbigl(tfrac{mathrm{d}vec{x}}{mathrm{d}t}bigr)^{!2}
]
end{document}





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    I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:52










  • @egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 10:25










  • @egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 13:46










  • @marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 14:08










  • @Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 19:10













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documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation}
L=frac{1}{2} m Dot{vec{x}}^2
end{equation}
end{document}


enter image description here



because the Lagrange function is a function of the square of the time derivative of x (and not the time derivative of the square of x).






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  • That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:27










  • Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:29










  • @KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 5:30






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    @marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 5:35






  • 1




    At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
    – egreg
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I'd probably do



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation}
L=frac{1}{2} m Dot{vec{x}}^2
end{equation}
end{document}


enter image description here



because the Lagrange function is a function of the square of the time derivative of x (and not the time derivative of the square of x).






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  • That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:27










  • Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:29










  • @KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 5:30






  • 1




    @marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 5:35






  • 1




    At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46













up vote
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I'd probably do



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation}
L=frac{1}{2} m Dot{vec{x}}^2
end{equation}
end{document}


enter image description here



because the Lagrange function is a function of the square of the time derivative of x (and not the time derivative of the square of x).






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I'd probably do



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
begin{document}
begin{equation}
L=frac{1}{2} m Dot{vec{x}}^2
end{equation}
end{document}


enter image description here



because the Lagrange function is a function of the square of the time derivative of x (and not the time derivative of the square of x).







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  • That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:27










  • Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:29










  • @KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 5:30






  • 1




    @marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 5:35






  • 1




    At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46


















  • That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:27










  • Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
    – Kane Billiot
    Dec 7 at 5:29










  • @KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 5:30






  • 1




    @marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 5:35






  • 1




    At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:46
















That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
– Kane Billiot
Dec 7 at 5:27




That's what I wanted to write, but did not know how to. Thanks.
– Kane Billiot
Dec 7 at 5:27












Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
– Kane Billiot
Dec 7 at 5:29




Is there a difference between dot and Dot?
– Kane Billiot
Dec 7 at 5:29












@KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
– marmot
Dec 7 at 5:30




@KaneBilliot Short answer: Dot works also when you already have something on top of the symbol. So it would not shift.
– marmot
Dec 7 at 5:30




1




1




@marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
– Mico
Dec 7 at 5:35




@marmot - For the case at hand, using dot and Dot produce the same result.
– Mico
Dec 7 at 5:35




1




1




At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
– egreg
Dec 7 at 8:46




At the beginning, amsmath provided capitalized versions of the math accent commands, which had to be used for “nested accents”. A later version of amsmath made the standard commands (all lowercase) “nesting aware”. The other commands remained for back compatibility.
– egreg
Dec 7 at 8:46










up vote
5
down vote













The first or third option below may be close to what you're looking for. Or, switch from Newton-style to Leibniz-style notation for the derivative, as shown by the fourth option (newly fixed to incorporated @marmot's comment). A separate comment: to make the frac{1}{2} term less visually dominant, consider using tfrac instead of frac.



enter image description here



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath} % for tfrac macro and general accent-placement support
begin{document}
[
tfrac{1}{2}m dot{vec{x}} ^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^{,2} quad
tfrac{1}{2}mbigl(tfrac{mathrm{d}vec{x}}{mathrm{d}t}bigr)^{!2}
]
end{document}





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    I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:52










  • @egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 10:25










  • @egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 13:46










  • @marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 14:08










  • @Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 19:10

















up vote
5
down vote













The first or third option below may be close to what you're looking for. Or, switch from Newton-style to Leibniz-style notation for the derivative, as shown by the fourth option (newly fixed to incorporated @marmot's comment). A separate comment: to make the frac{1}{2} term less visually dominant, consider using tfrac instead of frac.



enter image description here



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath} % for tfrac macro and general accent-placement support
begin{document}
[
tfrac{1}{2}m dot{vec{x}} ^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^{,2} quad
tfrac{1}{2}mbigl(tfrac{mathrm{d}vec{x}}{mathrm{d}t}bigr)^{!2}
]
end{document}





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    I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:52










  • @egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 10:25










  • @egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 13:46










  • @marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 14:08










  • @Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 19:10















up vote
5
down vote










up vote
5
down vote









The first or third option below may be close to what you're looking for. Or, switch from Newton-style to Leibniz-style notation for the derivative, as shown by the fourth option (newly fixed to incorporated @marmot's comment). A separate comment: to make the frac{1}{2} term less visually dominant, consider using tfrac instead of frac.



enter image description here



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath} % for tfrac macro and general accent-placement support
begin{document}
[
tfrac{1}{2}m dot{vec{x}} ^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^{,2} quad
tfrac{1}{2}mbigl(tfrac{mathrm{d}vec{x}}{mathrm{d}t}bigr)^{!2}
]
end{document}





share|improve this answer














The first or third option below may be close to what you're looking for. Or, switch from Newton-style to Leibniz-style notation for the derivative, as shown by the fourth option (newly fixed to incorporated @marmot's comment). A separate comment: to make the frac{1}{2} term less visually dominant, consider using tfrac instead of frac.



enter image description here



documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath} % for tfrac macro and general accent-placement support
begin{document}
[
tfrac{1}{2}m dot{vec{x}} ^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^2 quad
tfrac{1}{2}m{dot{vec{x}}}^{,2} quad
tfrac{1}{2}mbigl(tfrac{mathrm{d}vec{x}}{mathrm{d}t}bigr)^{!2}
]
end{document}






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    I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:52










  • @egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 10:25










  • @egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 13:46










  • @marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 14:08










  • @Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 19:10
















  • 2




    I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
    – egreg
    Dec 7 at 8:52










  • @egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 10:25










  • @egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 13:46










  • @marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
    – Mico
    Dec 7 at 14:08










  • @Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
    – marmot
    Dec 7 at 19:10










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I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
– egreg
Dec 7 at 8:52




I'm pretty sure Leibniz didn't use upright d's. ;-)
– egreg
Dec 7 at 8:52












@egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
– Mico
Dec 7 at 10:25




@egreg - I'm pretty sure of that too... I switched to slanted to upright d's mainly on the (now deleted) suggestion of marmot. :-)
– Mico
Dec 7 at 10:25












@egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
– marmot
Dec 7 at 13:46




@egreg That's a very bold statement. Did you know Leibniz personally? I would bet a lot of money on having him typeset the d's upright. Assume you have diameter $d$ that depends on time. How would you typeset its time derivative? frac{dd}{dt}? Not really, right? And after all this is a question on the typesetting a physics Lagrange function, and at least in physics people won't hurt others' eyes by typesetting frac{dd}{dt}.
– marmot
Dec 7 at 13:46












@marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
– Mico
Dec 7 at 14:08




@marmot - Wouldn't it be nice to have access to a few first-edition originals -- facsimiles will do too, I suppose -- of Leibniz's own publications? (In case you're curious: I'm afraid I have no such access...)
– Mico
Dec 7 at 14:08












@Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
– marmot
Dec 7 at 19:10






@Mico I guess we will not be able to figure out how Leibniz would have typeset it. However, I have a reason for pushing for upright d's, namely examples of the type frac{dd}{dt}. Do you have examples in which upright d's lead to an unfortunate output?
– marmot
Dec 7 at 19:10












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