it’s important that all of that body supported by acid, tannins, or both
A Forbes article -- apparently written by an American -- titled "How To Tell If A Wine Will Age" has this passage:
The other structural elements of body, alcohol, and sugar can also point to an age-worthy wine. Full-bodied wines, which also tend to be high in alcohol, are more likely to age well, but it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both. That rich, soft $10 red purchased at the supermarket is easy-drinking now, but without firm tannins or bright acidity, it will not improve at all over time. Sugar can also help a wine age, though the perception of sweetness will diminish through the years.
Assuming this is American English, is there any reason why the verb in the that-clause is not "be" but "is"?
I thought it was only informal BE that would allow "is" in this type of clause.
EDIT
Here, the writer is saying that some cheap reds may lack in tannin or acidity, in which case the strong flavor of such cheap wines is going to diminish over time.
So, I don't think the writer is making a factual statement in the bold clause, but rather is presenting a condition under which full-bodied wines can age well without losing the full-bodiedness over time.
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A Forbes article -- apparently written by an American -- titled "How To Tell If A Wine Will Age" has this passage:
The other structural elements of body, alcohol, and sugar can also point to an age-worthy wine. Full-bodied wines, which also tend to be high in alcohol, are more likely to age well, but it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both. That rich, soft $10 red purchased at the supermarket is easy-drinking now, but without firm tannins or bright acidity, it will not improve at all over time. Sugar can also help a wine age, though the perception of sweetness will diminish through the years.
Assuming this is American English, is there any reason why the verb in the that-clause is not "be" but "is"?
I thought it was only informal BE that would allow "is" in this type of clause.
EDIT
Here, the writer is saying that some cheap reds may lack in tannin or acidity, in which case the strong flavor of such cheap wines is going to diminish over time.
So, I don't think the writer is making a factual statement in the bold clause, but rather is presenting a condition under which full-bodied wines can age well without losing the full-bodiedness over time.
subjunctive-mood
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It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
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@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
1
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
2
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago
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A Forbes article -- apparently written by an American -- titled "How To Tell If A Wine Will Age" has this passage:
The other structural elements of body, alcohol, and sugar can also point to an age-worthy wine. Full-bodied wines, which also tend to be high in alcohol, are more likely to age well, but it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both. That rich, soft $10 red purchased at the supermarket is easy-drinking now, but without firm tannins or bright acidity, it will not improve at all over time. Sugar can also help a wine age, though the perception of sweetness will diminish through the years.
Assuming this is American English, is there any reason why the verb in the that-clause is not "be" but "is"?
I thought it was only informal BE that would allow "is" in this type of clause.
EDIT
Here, the writer is saying that some cheap reds may lack in tannin or acidity, in which case the strong flavor of such cheap wines is going to diminish over time.
So, I don't think the writer is making a factual statement in the bold clause, but rather is presenting a condition under which full-bodied wines can age well without losing the full-bodiedness over time.
subjunctive-mood
asked Jan 7 at 3:27
JK2JK2
13911651
A Forbes article -- apparently written by an American -- titled "How To Tell If A Wine Will Age" has this passage:
The other structural elements of body, alcohol, and sugar can also point to an age-worthy wine. Full-bodied wines, which also tend to be high in alcohol, are more likely to age well, but it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both. That rich, soft $10 red purchased at the supermarket is easy-drinking now, but without firm tannins or bright acidity, it will not improve at all over time. Sugar can also help a wine age, though the perception of sweetness will diminish through the years.
Assuming this is American English, is there any reason why the verb in the that-clause is not "be" but "is"?
I thought it was only informal BE that would allow "is" in this type of clause.
EDIT
Here, the writer is saying that some cheap reds may lack in tannin or acidity, in which case the strong flavor of such cheap wines is going to diminish over time.
So, I don't think the writer is making a factual statement in the bold clause, but rather is presenting a condition under which full-bodied wines can age well without losing the full-bodiedness over time.
subjunctive-mood
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It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
3
@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
1
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
2
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago
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It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
3
@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
1
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
2
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago
1
1
It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
3
3
@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
1
1
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
2
2
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago
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It's unclear to me why that sentence wouldn't be just descriptive, in your opinion. That's just what it is, wine is sour, basta! I don't know what 'this type of clause' you have in mind.
– vectory
Jan 7 at 3:42
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@vectory: Read in context with the following sentence, "it’s important that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both" seems like it must mean "it’s important that you make sure that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both", not "an important fact is that all of that body is supported by acid, tannins, or both".
– sumelic
2 days ago
1
They are talking about am existing full bodied wine taken as example, not whatever I am going to do. In context, that's surely not about making wine, but buying. The subjunctive in American English be archaic; it is at least almost archaic.
– vectory
2 days ago
2
@vectory Please see my EDIT. Also, I respectfully disagree that 'subjunctive' is archaic in American English. The present subjunctive, the one we're discussing, is actually way more prevalent in American English than in British English.
– JK2
2 days ago
first let's clear up what it is in "it's important" and why a wine's being be subjunct to it. Your edit doesn't change the fact that pretty much nothing about the phrase is hypothetical. Personally, I would often use the infinitive instead (it is important for the wine to be ...), so maybe you could make a case, but you'd have to go a long way to claim that present tense were false in the example.
– vectory
2 days ago