What's the difference between using select + unlist from dplyr package and using the dollar sign?












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I've been taking an online course in which the instructor always does the following to obtain, say, the column Col1 from a data.frame object Dat:



library(dplyr)
unlist(select(Dat, Col1))


Why not simply run Dat$Col1? I notice a difference in the "presentation" of both results, but is there any other significant divergence between the two forms? Any operation will result in the same product for both?










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    Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:48








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    ...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 20:51








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    Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:53








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    Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
    – cory
    Jan 5 at 21:05






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    The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 22:33


















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I've been taking an online course in which the instructor always does the following to obtain, say, the column Col1 from a data.frame object Dat:



library(dplyr)
unlist(select(Dat, Col1))


Why not simply run Dat$Col1? I notice a difference in the "presentation" of both results, but is there any other significant divergence between the two forms? Any operation will result in the same product for both?










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  • 8




    Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:48








  • 9




    ...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 20:51








  • 4




    Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:53








  • 3




    Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
    – cory
    Jan 5 at 21:05






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    The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 22:33
















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I've been taking an online course in which the instructor always does the following to obtain, say, the column Col1 from a data.frame object Dat:



library(dplyr)
unlist(select(Dat, Col1))


Why not simply run Dat$Col1? I notice a difference in the "presentation" of both results, but is there any other significant divergence between the two forms? Any operation will result in the same product for both?










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I've been taking an online course in which the instructor always does the following to obtain, say, the column Col1 from a data.frame object Dat:



library(dplyr)
unlist(select(Dat, Col1))


Why not simply run Dat$Col1? I notice a difference in the "presentation" of both results, but is there any other significant divergence between the two forms? Any operation will result in the same product for both?







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  • 8




    Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:48








  • 9




    ...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 20:51








  • 4




    Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:53








  • 3




    Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
    – cory
    Jan 5 at 21:05






  • 6




    The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 22:33
















  • 8




    Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:48








  • 9




    ...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 20:51








  • 4




    Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
    – Rich Scriven
    Jan 5 at 20:53








  • 3




    Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
    – cory
    Jan 5 at 21:05






  • 6




    The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
    – Henrik
    Jan 5 at 22:33










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Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
– Rich Scriven
Jan 5 at 20:48






Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse. Dat$Col1 is my preferred method for getting a column.
– Rich Scriven
Jan 5 at 20:48






9




9




...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
– Henrik
Jan 5 at 20:51






...but not well-versed enough to know of pull.
– Henrik
Jan 5 at 20:51






4




4




Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
– Rich Scriven
Jan 5 at 20:53






Touche. Maybe OP can take the instructor to school.
– Rich Scriven
Jan 5 at 20:53






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Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
– cory
Jan 5 at 21:05




Wow, he loads an entire new library for that?
– cory
Jan 5 at 21:05




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The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
– Henrik
Jan 5 at 22:33






The rumours about the SO incident spread, and the instructor decided to gather every student. today he had started to select cigarettes without filter, and took a long, deep pull to compose himself for a minute. It was a mare’s nest. “Well, I have a crow to pluck with you, who did this?”, the teacher started. "between you and me: this is no funs. You better not cross me, or I will reduce your grades, every grade. Whichever way you slice it - period!" The students looked at each other. A complete farce. Happy new year every one - tally-ho!
– Henrik
Jan 5 at 22:33














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These are not quite equivalent - unlist(select(.)) keeps (probably unwanted) names.



dd <- data.frame(Col1=c("abc","def"))
str(unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2
## - attr(*, "names")= chr [1:2] "Col11" "Col12"
str(dd$Col1)
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2


Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse (@RichScriven); pull(Dat, Col1) or (for extreme "tidiness") Dat %>% pull(Col1) would be more idiomatic (@Henrik). Dat$Col1 or Dat[["Col1"]] would be the base-R equivalents (the former is more convenient for interactive use, the latter is marginally safer for programming purposes since it won't do name-completion).



It hardly matters, but the tidyverse approaches are much slower.



microbenchmark(dd$Col1,dd[["Col1"]],pull(dd,Col1),unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
Unit: microseconds
expr min lq mean median uq
dd$Col1 5.296 10.9630 14.86871 13.4040 17.160
dd[["Col1"]] 7.870 9.6535 15.18874 11.8270 16.635
pull(dd, Col1) 44.160 108.7625 128.89342 117.8415 136.890
unlist(select(dd, Col1)) 601.480 1132.8240 1436.44178 1214.4420 1378.141
max neval cld
31.036 100 a
88.842 100 a
422.462 100 a
8796.964 100 b





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    Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
    – Rui Barradas
    Jan 5 at 22:37






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    Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
    – lmo
    Jan 5 at 23:26











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These are not quite equivalent - unlist(select(.)) keeps (probably unwanted) names.



dd <- data.frame(Col1=c("abc","def"))
str(unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2
## - attr(*, "names")= chr [1:2] "Col11" "Col12"
str(dd$Col1)
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2


Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse (@RichScriven); pull(Dat, Col1) or (for extreme "tidiness") Dat %>% pull(Col1) would be more idiomatic (@Henrik). Dat$Col1 or Dat[["Col1"]] would be the base-R equivalents (the former is more convenient for interactive use, the latter is marginally safer for programming purposes since it won't do name-completion).



It hardly matters, but the tidyverse approaches are much slower.



microbenchmark(dd$Col1,dd[["Col1"]],pull(dd,Col1),unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
Unit: microseconds
expr min lq mean median uq
dd$Col1 5.296 10.9630 14.86871 13.4040 17.160
dd[["Col1"]] 7.870 9.6535 15.18874 11.8270 16.635
pull(dd, Col1) 44.160 108.7625 128.89342 117.8415 136.890
unlist(select(dd, Col1)) 601.480 1132.8240 1436.44178 1214.4420 1378.141
max neval cld
31.036 100 a
88.842 100 a
422.462 100 a
8796.964 100 b





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    Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
    – Rui Barradas
    Jan 5 at 22:37






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    Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
    – lmo
    Jan 5 at 23:26
















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(Posting comments as community wiki.)



These are not quite equivalent - unlist(select(.)) keeps (probably unwanted) names.



dd <- data.frame(Col1=c("abc","def"))
str(unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2
## - attr(*, "names")= chr [1:2] "Col11" "Col12"
str(dd$Col1)
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2


Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse (@RichScriven); pull(Dat, Col1) or (for extreme "tidiness") Dat %>% pull(Col1) would be more idiomatic (@Henrik). Dat$Col1 or Dat[["Col1"]] would be the base-R equivalents (the former is more convenient for interactive use, the latter is marginally safer for programming purposes since it won't do name-completion).



It hardly matters, but the tidyverse approaches are much slower.



microbenchmark(dd$Col1,dd[["Col1"]],pull(dd,Col1),unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
Unit: microseconds
expr min lq mean median uq
dd$Col1 5.296 10.9630 14.86871 13.4040 17.160
dd[["Col1"]] 7.870 9.6535 15.18874 11.8270 16.635
pull(dd, Col1) 44.160 108.7625 128.89342 117.8415 136.890
unlist(select(dd, Col1)) 601.480 1132.8240 1436.44178 1214.4420 1378.141
max neval cld
31.036 100 a
88.842 100 a
422.462 100 a
8796.964 100 b





share|improve this answer



















  • 2




    Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
    – Rui Barradas
    Jan 5 at 22:37






  • 1




    Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
    – lmo
    Jan 5 at 23:26














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(Posting comments as community wiki.)



These are not quite equivalent - unlist(select(.)) keeps (probably unwanted) names.



dd <- data.frame(Col1=c("abc","def"))
str(unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2
## - attr(*, "names")= chr [1:2] "Col11" "Col12"
str(dd$Col1)
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2


Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse (@RichScriven); pull(Dat, Col1) or (for extreme "tidiness") Dat %>% pull(Col1) would be more idiomatic (@Henrik). Dat$Col1 or Dat[["Col1"]] would be the base-R equivalents (the former is more convenient for interactive use, the latter is marginally safer for programming purposes since it won't do name-completion).



It hardly matters, but the tidyverse approaches are much slower.



microbenchmark(dd$Col1,dd[["Col1"]],pull(dd,Col1),unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
Unit: microseconds
expr min lq mean median uq
dd$Col1 5.296 10.9630 14.86871 13.4040 17.160
dd[["Col1"]] 7.870 9.6535 15.18874 11.8270 16.635
pull(dd, Col1) 44.160 108.7625 128.89342 117.8415 136.890
unlist(select(dd, Col1)) 601.480 1132.8240 1436.44178 1214.4420 1378.141
max neval cld
31.036 100 a
88.842 100 a
422.462 100 a
8796.964 100 b





share|improve this answer














(Posting comments as community wiki.)



These are not quite equivalent - unlist(select(.)) keeps (probably unwanted) names.



dd <- data.frame(Col1=c("abc","def"))
str(unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2
## - attr(*, "names")= chr [1:2] "Col11" "Col12"
str(dd$Col1)
## Factor w/ 2 levels "abc","def": 1 2


Your instructor is probably just a fan of the tidyverse (@RichScriven); pull(Dat, Col1) or (for extreme "tidiness") Dat %>% pull(Col1) would be more idiomatic (@Henrik). Dat$Col1 or Dat[["Col1"]] would be the base-R equivalents (the former is more convenient for interactive use, the latter is marginally safer for programming purposes since it won't do name-completion).



It hardly matters, but the tidyverse approaches are much slower.



microbenchmark(dd$Col1,dd[["Col1"]],pull(dd,Col1),unlist(select(dd,Col1)))
Unit: microseconds
expr min lq mean median uq
dd$Col1 5.296 10.9630 14.86871 13.4040 17.160
dd[["Col1"]] 7.870 9.6535 15.18874 11.8270 16.635
pull(dd, Col1) 44.160 108.7625 128.89342 117.8415 136.890
unlist(select(dd, Col1)) 601.480 1132.8240 1436.44178 1214.4420 1378.141
max neval cld
31.036 100 a
88.842 100 a
422.462 100 a
8796.964 100 b






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    Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
    – Rui Barradas
    Jan 5 at 22:37






  • 1




    Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
    – lmo
    Jan 5 at 23:26














  • 2




    Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
    – Rui Barradas
    Jan 5 at 22:37






  • 1




    Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
    – lmo
    Jan 5 at 23:26








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Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
– Rui Barradas
Jan 5 at 22:37




Since you mentioned it, pull(dd, Col1) is twice as fast as dd %>% pull(Col1). Tested with a much larger dd <- data.frame(Col1 = sample(c("abc", "def"), 1e6, TRUE)).
– Rui Barradas
Jan 5 at 22:37




1




1




Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
– lmo
Jan 5 at 23:26




Just to note, there's always the use.names argument to the base R function, unlist which will drop any unwanted names: unlist(select(.), use.names=FALSE).
– lmo
Jan 5 at 23:26










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