Is it erroneous to use “nude” and “naked” to refer to a half-covered body?
I am a person who like exact language and from my knowledge of the definition is that one has to be COMPLETELY uncovered to use those 2 terms.
However I have seen it being used in shows (and maybe books) where a half-covered person is referred to as naked/nude, e.g. only topless or pantsless.
Is this erroneous colloquial English whose proliferation is only by improper usage or is this actually permissible as proper English. If it is proper English now, then was there ever a time when it wasn't (since proper language is fluid with the times)?
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asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
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I am a person who like exact language and from my knowledge of the definition is that one has to be COMPLETELY uncovered to use those 2 terms.
However I have seen it being used in shows (and maybe books) where a half-covered person is referred to as naked/nude, e.g. only topless or pantsless.
Is this erroneous colloquial English whose proliferation is only by improper usage or is this actually permissible as proper English. If it is proper English now, then was there ever a time when it wasn't (since proper language is fluid with the times)?
word-choice word-usage linguistics dictionaries
asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
1323
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It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
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@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:39
1
@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:40
1
@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago
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I am a person who like exact language and from my knowledge of the definition is that one has to be COMPLETELY uncovered to use those 2 terms.
However I have seen it being used in shows (and maybe books) where a half-covered person is referred to as naked/nude, e.g. only topless or pantsless.
Is this erroneous colloquial English whose proliferation is only by improper usage or is this actually permissible as proper English. If it is proper English now, then was there ever a time when it wasn't (since proper language is fluid with the times)?
word-choice word-usage linguistics dictionaries
asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
1323
I am a person who like exact language and from my knowledge of the definition is that one has to be COMPLETELY uncovered to use those 2 terms.
However I have seen it being used in shows (and maybe books) where a half-covered person is referred to as naked/nude, e.g. only topless or pantsless.
Is this erroneous colloquial English whose proliferation is only by improper usage or is this actually permissible as proper English. If it is proper English now, then was there ever a time when it wasn't (since proper language is fluid with the times)?
word-choice word-usage linguistics dictionaries
word-choice word-usage linguistics dictionaries
asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
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asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
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asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
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asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
shoryuushoryuu
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asked Mar 14 '18 at 11:41
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It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
1
@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:39
1
@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:40
1
@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago
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show 1 more comment
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It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
1
@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:39
1
@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:40
1
@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago
1
1
It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
1
1
@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:39
@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:39
1
1
@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:40
@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:40
1
1
@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago
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“Naked” means totally unclothed, unless the term is qualified, as in “naked from the waist up”. I don’t think that option exists for “nude”. As you probably know, “nude” (and not naked) is also used as a noun meaning an artistic representation of the unclothed body.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:35
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Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
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A combustion process constitutes a 'naked flame' so long as the relevant part[s] is[are] exposed to the general environment. The same is true in the case of a naked or nude human being. The entire surface of the flame need not be exposed, any part is sufficient.
If we were to describe a spill of boiling water, it would be perfectly reasonable and correct to say 'it splashed onto naked skin' without implying that he was in fact in an entirely naked state, that some portion of the contacted surface is skin is enough.
It seems to follow that what constitutes naked in any given scenario is not laid out in any quantitative fashion. If you want specificity perhaps we need a nakedness metric, other than ergs of discomfiture.
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
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This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
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No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
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The key to nakedness is, I think, coverage of the genitals, and breasts in the case of women. A man wearing a speedo would not be called naked even though he is only, say, 5% clothed, but a man wearing a shirt but no pants might be described as naked, even though he might be, say, 40% clothed, by total area of skin.
For many, then, "naked" means "Visible genitals", and this might extend to breasts in the case of women.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
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I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
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“Naked” means totally unclothed, unless the term is qualified, as in “naked from the waist up”. I don’t think that option exists for “nude”. As you probably know, “nude” (and not naked) is also used as a noun meaning an artistic representation of the unclothed body.
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Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
add a comment |
“Naked” means totally unclothed, unless the term is qualified, as in “naked from the waist up”. I don’t think that option exists for “nude”. As you probably know, “nude” (and not naked) is also used as a noun meaning an artistic representation of the unclothed body.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:35
Antwerp SmerleAntwerp Smerle
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Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
add a comment |
“Naked” means totally unclothed, unless the term is qualified, as in “naked from the waist up”. I don’t think that option exists for “nude”. As you probably know, “nude” (and not naked) is also used as a noun meaning an artistic representation of the unclothed body.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:35
Antwerp SmerleAntwerp Smerle
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“Naked” means totally unclothed, unless the term is qualified, as in “naked from the waist up”. I don’t think that option exists for “nude”. As you probably know, “nude” (and not naked) is also used as a noun meaning an artistic representation of the unclothed body.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:35
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Antwerp SmerleAntwerp Smerle
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Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
add a comment |
1
Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
1
1
Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
Some references would be helpful here to demonstrate that it is not just opinion.
– Nigel J
Mar 14 '18 at 13:38
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
While naked and nude means ‘completely unclothed’, you can say ‘semi-nude’ or ‘partly naked’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:14
add a comment |
A combustion process constitutes a 'naked flame' so long as the relevant part[s] is[are] exposed to the general environment. The same is true in the case of a naked or nude human being. The entire surface of the flame need not be exposed, any part is sufficient.
If we were to describe a spill of boiling water, it would be perfectly reasonable and correct to say 'it splashed onto naked skin' without implying that he was in fact in an entirely naked state, that some portion of the contacted surface is skin is enough.
It seems to follow that what constitutes naked in any given scenario is not laid out in any quantitative fashion. If you want specificity perhaps we need a nakedness metric, other than ergs of discomfiture.
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
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This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
1
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
add a comment |
A combustion process constitutes a 'naked flame' so long as the relevant part[s] is[are] exposed to the general environment. The same is true in the case of a naked or nude human being. The entire surface of the flame need not be exposed, any part is sufficient.
If we were to describe a spill of boiling water, it would be perfectly reasonable and correct to say 'it splashed onto naked skin' without implying that he was in fact in an entirely naked state, that some portion of the contacted surface is skin is enough.
It seems to follow that what constitutes naked in any given scenario is not laid out in any quantitative fashion. If you want specificity perhaps we need a nakedness metric, other than ergs of discomfiture.
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
1
This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
1
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
add a comment |
A combustion process constitutes a 'naked flame' so long as the relevant part[s] is[are] exposed to the general environment. The same is true in the case of a naked or nude human being. The entire surface of the flame need not be exposed, any part is sufficient.
If we were to describe a spill of boiling water, it would be perfectly reasonable and correct to say 'it splashed onto naked skin' without implying that he was in fact in an entirely naked state, that some portion of the contacted surface is skin is enough.
It seems to follow that what constitutes naked in any given scenario is not laid out in any quantitative fashion. If you want specificity perhaps we need a nakedness metric, other than ergs of discomfiture.
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
A combustion process constitutes a 'naked flame' so long as the relevant part[s] is[are] exposed to the general environment. The same is true in the case of a naked or nude human being. The entire surface of the flame need not be exposed, any part is sufficient.
If we were to describe a spill of boiling water, it would be perfectly reasonable and correct to say 'it splashed onto naked skin' without implying that he was in fact in an entirely naked state, that some portion of the contacted surface is skin is enough.
It seems to follow that what constitutes naked in any given scenario is not laid out in any quantitative fashion. If you want specificity perhaps we need a nakedness metric, other than ergs of discomfiture.
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
answered Jan 5 at 23:45
Giu PieteGiu Piete
413
413
1
This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
1
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
add a comment |
1
This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
1
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
1
1
This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
This is the start of a good answer, but it would be a lot better with citations.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:51
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
proceeds to trawl through search results for 'totally naked'..not.
– Giu Piete
Jan 6 at 0:23
1
1
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
No, I mean go to a proper dictionary (preferably an historical one) and show us what it has to say about each of those two words. There’s also more meat just begging to be exposed here in the partially covered arena.
– tchrist♦
Jan 6 at 0:27
add a comment |
The key to nakedness is, I think, coverage of the genitals, and breasts in the case of women. A man wearing a speedo would not be called naked even though he is only, say, 5% clothed, but a man wearing a shirt but no pants might be described as naked, even though he might be, say, 40% clothed, by total area of skin.
For many, then, "naked" means "Visible genitals", and this might extend to breasts in the case of women.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.
I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
add a comment |
The key to nakedness is, I think, coverage of the genitals, and breasts in the case of women. A man wearing a speedo would not be called naked even though he is only, say, 5% clothed, but a man wearing a shirt but no pants might be described as naked, even though he might be, say, 40% clothed, by total area of skin.
For many, then, "naked" means "Visible genitals", and this might extend to breasts in the case of women.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
Some of the information contained in this post requires additional references. Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.
I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
add a comment |
The key to nakedness is, I think, coverage of the genitals, and breasts in the case of women. A man wearing a speedo would not be called naked even though he is only, say, 5% clothed, but a man wearing a shirt but no pants might be described as naked, even though he might be, say, 40% clothed, by total area of skin.
For many, then, "naked" means "Visible genitals", and this might extend to breasts in the case of women.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
The key to nakedness is, I think, coverage of the genitals, and breasts in the case of women. A man wearing a speedo would not be called naked even though he is only, say, 5% clothed, but a man wearing a shirt but no pants might be described as naked, even though he might be, say, 40% clothed, by total area of skin.
For many, then, "naked" means "Visible genitals", and this might extend to breasts in the case of women.
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
answered Mar 14 '18 at 13:45
Max WilliamsMax Williams
21k54067
21k54067
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I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
add a comment |
I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
I think you’d need to say ‘almost naked’ for someone wearing only a shirt. Naked and nude really mean ‘bare’.
– Jelila
Mar 14 '18 at 14:16
add a comment |
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It depends on which half is covered.
– Hot Licks
Jan 5 at 23:28
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@HotLicks The front half.
– tchrist♦
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@tchrist - I think you got that bass-ackwards.
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Jan 5 at 23:40
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@HotLicks Fine, have it your way: the right half then, with a demi-tux.
– tchrist♦
Jan 5 at 23:50
I have seen the use you mention ("I saw a naked man" when they are wearing pants but no shirt). That always sounded strange to me, but maybe there is an 'official' use for what I would call 'half-naked'. What did a dictionary say?
– Mitch
2 days ago