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My son gave me the following recurrence formula for $x_n$ ($nge2$):




$$(n+1)(n-2)x_{n+1}=n(n^2-n-1)x_n-(n-1)^3x_{n-1}tag{1}$$
$$x_2=x_3=1$$




The task I got from him:




  • The sequence has an interesting property, find it out.

  • Make a conjecture and prove it.


Obviously I had to start with a few values and calculating them by hand turned out to be difficult. So I used Mathematica and defined the sequence as follows:



b[n_] := b[n] = n (n^2 - n - 1) a[n] - (n - 1)^3 a[n - 1];
a[n_] := a[n] = b[n - 1]/(n (n - 3));
a[2] = 1;
a[3] = 1;


And I got the following results:



$$ a_4=frac{7}{4}, a_5=5, a_6=frac{121}{6}, a_7=103, a_8=frac{5041}{8}, a_9=frac{40321}{9}, \ a_{10}=frac{362881}{10}, a_{11}=329891, a_{12}=frac{39916801}{12}, a_{13}=36846277, a_{14}=frac{6227020801}{14}dots$$



Numbers don't make any sense but it's strange that the sequence produces integer values from time to time. It's not something that I expected from a pretty complex definition like (1).



So I decided to find the values of $n$ producing integer values of $a_n$. I did an experiment for $2le n le 100$:



table = Table[{i, a[i]}, {i, 2, 100}];
integers = Select[table, (IntegerQ[#[[2]]]) &];
itegerIndexes = Map[#[[1]] &, integers]


...and the output was:



{2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 
59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97}


Conjecture (pretty amazing, at least to me):




$a_n$ is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime.




Interesting primality test, isn't it? The trick is to prove that it's correct. I have started with the substitution:



$$y_n=n x_n$$



...which simplifies (1) a bit:



$$(n-2)y_{n+1}=(n^2-n-1)y_n-(n-1)^2y_{n-1}$$



...but I did not get much further (the next step, I guess, should be rearrangement).










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    The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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    – Carl Witthoft
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    If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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    Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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My son gave me the following recurrence formula for $x_n$ ($nge2$):




$$(n+1)(n-2)x_{n+1}=n(n^2-n-1)x_n-(n-1)^3x_{n-1}tag{1}$$
$$x_2=x_3=1$$




The task I got from him:




  • The sequence has an interesting property, find it out.

  • Make a conjecture and prove it.


Obviously I had to start with a few values and calculating them by hand turned out to be difficult. So I used Mathematica and defined the sequence as follows:



b[n_] := b[n] = n (n^2 - n - 1) a[n] - (n - 1)^3 a[n - 1];
a[n_] := a[n] = b[n - 1]/(n (n - 3));
a[2] = 1;
a[3] = 1;


And I got the following results:



$$ a_4=frac{7}{4}, a_5=5, a_6=frac{121}{6}, a_7=103, a_8=frac{5041}{8}, a_9=frac{40321}{9}, \ a_{10}=frac{362881}{10}, a_{11}=329891, a_{12}=frac{39916801}{12}, a_{13}=36846277, a_{14}=frac{6227020801}{14}dots$$



Numbers don't make any sense but it's strange that the sequence produces integer values from time to time. It's not something that I expected from a pretty complex definition like (1).



So I decided to find the values of $n$ producing integer values of $a_n$. I did an experiment for $2le n le 100$:



table = Table[{i, a[i]}, {i, 2, 100}];
integers = Select[table, (IntegerQ[#[[2]]]) &];
itegerIndexes = Map[#[[1]] &, integers]


...and the output was:



{2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 
59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97}


Conjecture (pretty amazing, at least to me):




$a_n$ is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime.




Interesting primality test, isn't it? The trick is to prove that it's correct. I have started with the substitution:



$$y_n=n x_n$$



...which simplifies (1) a bit:



$$(n-2)y_{n+1}=(n^2-n-1)y_n-(n-1)^2y_{n-1}$$



...but I did not get much further (the next step, I guess, should be rearrangement).










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    The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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    – Carl Witthoft
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    If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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    Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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My son gave me the following recurrence formula for $x_n$ ($nge2$):




$$(n+1)(n-2)x_{n+1}=n(n^2-n-1)x_n-(n-1)^3x_{n-1}tag{1}$$
$$x_2=x_3=1$$




The task I got from him:




  • The sequence has an interesting property, find it out.

  • Make a conjecture and prove it.


Obviously I had to start with a few values and calculating them by hand turned out to be difficult. So I used Mathematica and defined the sequence as follows:



b[n_] := b[n] = n (n^2 - n - 1) a[n] - (n - 1)^3 a[n - 1];
a[n_] := a[n] = b[n - 1]/(n (n - 3));
a[2] = 1;
a[3] = 1;


And I got the following results:



$$ a_4=frac{7}{4}, a_5=5, a_6=frac{121}{6}, a_7=103, a_8=frac{5041}{8}, a_9=frac{40321}{9}, \ a_{10}=frac{362881}{10}, a_{11}=329891, a_{12}=frac{39916801}{12}, a_{13}=36846277, a_{14}=frac{6227020801}{14}dots$$



Numbers don't make any sense but it's strange that the sequence produces integer values from time to time. It's not something that I expected from a pretty complex definition like (1).



So I decided to find the values of $n$ producing integer values of $a_n$. I did an experiment for $2le n le 100$:



table = Table[{i, a[i]}, {i, 2, 100}];
integers = Select[table, (IntegerQ[#[[2]]]) &];
itegerIndexes = Map[#[[1]] &, integers]


...and the output was:



{2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 
59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97}


Conjecture (pretty amazing, at least to me):




$a_n$ is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime.




Interesting primality test, isn't it? The trick is to prove that it's correct. I have started with the substitution:



$$y_n=n x_n$$



...which simplifies (1) a bit:



$$(n-2)y_{n+1}=(n^2-n-1)y_n-(n-1)^2y_{n-1}$$



...but I did not get much further (the next step, I guess, should be rearrangement).










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My son gave me the following recurrence formula for $x_n$ ($nge2$):




$$(n+1)(n-2)x_{n+1}=n(n^2-n-1)x_n-(n-1)^3x_{n-1}tag{1}$$
$$x_2=x_3=1$$




The task I got from him:




  • The sequence has an interesting property, find it out.

  • Make a conjecture and prove it.


Obviously I had to start with a few values and calculating them by hand turned out to be difficult. So I used Mathematica and defined the sequence as follows:



b[n_] := b[n] = n (n^2 - n - 1) a[n] - (n - 1)^3 a[n - 1];
a[n_] := a[n] = b[n - 1]/(n (n - 3));
a[2] = 1;
a[3] = 1;


And I got the following results:



$$ a_4=frac{7}{4}, a_5=5, a_6=frac{121}{6}, a_7=103, a_8=frac{5041}{8}, a_9=frac{40321}{9}, \ a_{10}=frac{362881}{10}, a_{11}=329891, a_{12}=frac{39916801}{12}, a_{13}=36846277, a_{14}=frac{6227020801}{14}dots$$



Numbers don't make any sense but it's strange that the sequence produces integer values from time to time. It's not something that I expected from a pretty complex definition like (1).



So I decided to find the values of $n$ producing integer values of $a_n$. I did an experiment for $2le n le 100$:



table = Table[{i, a[i]}, {i, 2, 100}];
integers = Select[table, (IntegerQ[#[[2]]]) &];
itegerIndexes = Map[#[[1]] &, integers]


...and the output was:



{2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 
59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97}


Conjecture (pretty amazing, at least to me):




$a_n$ is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime.




Interesting primality test, isn't it? The trick is to prove that it's correct. I have started with the substitution:



$$y_n=n x_n$$



...which simplifies (1) a bit:



$$(n-2)y_{n+1}=(n^2-n-1)y_n-(n-1)^2y_{n-1}$$



...but I did not get much further (the next step, I guess, should be rearrangement).







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    The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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    If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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    Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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    The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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    $begingroup$
    If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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    Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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The fact that this sequence starts with the first prime index looks like a huge hint, seeing as mathematicians would start with n= 1 and software devs with n = 0 :-)
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If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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– Cort Ammon
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$begingroup$
If you're interested in returning the favor to your son, there are Diophantine Equations which enumerate all primes. The result is an inequality such that, if this polynomial function (whose inputs are 26 whole numbers labeled a through z) is greater than zero, then k, the 11th argument to the function, is prime, and every prime on the entire numberline is enumerated this way.
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Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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Looking at OEIS reveals origins of this problem, numerators are oeis.org/A005450, denominators are oeis.org/A005451, and in the references in the second one you find this is from Problem 10578 in The American Mathematical Monthly Vol. 104, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), page 270, see jstor.org/stable/….
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The given difference equation can be solved in the following way. We have for $nge 3$,
$$
(n-2)(y_{n+1}-y_n) = (n-1)^2(y_n-y_{n-1}),\
frac{y_{n+1}-y_n}{n-1}=(n-1)frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}.
$$
If we let $displaystyle z_n=frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}$, it follows that
$$
z_{n+1}=(n-1)z_n=(n-1)(n-2)z_{n-1}=cdots =(n-1)!z_3=(n-1)!frac{3x_3-2x_2}{1}=(n-1)!
$$
This gives
$$
y_{n+1}-y_n=(n-1)(n-1)!=n!-(n-1)!,
$$
hence $y_n = nx_n = (n-1)!+c$ for some $c$. Plugging $n=2$ yields $2=1!+c$, thus we have that $$displaystyle x_n =frac{(n-1)!+1}{n}.$$






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    The $n^{rm{th}}$ term of the sequence is $dfrac{(n-1)! + 1}{n}$, which is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime (according to Wilson's Theorem).






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    Numbers don't make any sense




    Actually, they do ! :-) Just take a closer look at the sequence's composite-index denominators, and notice the following:




    $$
    a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
    a_{5}=5,quad
    a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
    a_{7}=103,quad
    a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
    a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
    \~\~\
    a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
    a_{11}=329891,quad
    a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
    a_{13}=36846277,quaddots
    $$




    Let us now rewrite the sequence's prime-indexed elements in a similar manner, for a more uniform approach:




    $$
    a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
    a_{color{blue}5}=frac{25}{color{blue}5},quad
    a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
    a_{color{blue}7}=frac{721}{color{blue}7},quad
    a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
    a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
    \~\~\
    a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
    a_{color{blue}{11}}=frac{3628801}{color{blue}{11}},quad
    a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
    a_{color{blue}{13}}=frac{479001601}{color{blue}{13}},quaddots
    $$




    At this point, we might be able to cheat, and use OEIS to identify the afferent sequence $color{blue}{b_n=ncdot a_n}$ by its first few elements, yielding three possible suspects: but let's say that our mathematical virtue and intellectual integrity will prevail over our base urges of rampant curiosity, and we might resist the temptation to do so. Could we then, without any outside aide, still manage to deduce an expression for $b_n$ ? Indeed, even a superficial glance will undoubtedly reveal the growth to resemble what one might otherwise expect to see in a geometric progression, rather than an arithmetic one. We then have:




    $$
    r_{color{blue}4}=frac{25}{7}simeqcolor{blue}4,quad
    r_{color{blue}5}=frac{121}{25}simeqcolor{blue}5,quad
    r_{color{blue}6}=frac{721}{121}simeqcolor{blue}6,quad
    r_{color{blue}7}=frac{5041}{721}simeqcolor{blue}7,quaddots
    $$




    In short, $color{blue}{r_n=dfrac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}simeq n}.~$ A type of “modified geometric progression”, as it were, with a variable ratio equal to the index itself: Does this sound in any way familiar ? If no, there is still no need to worry: We'll get to the bottom of it soon enough, anyway. More precisely, we have $color{blue}{b_{n+1}=ncdot b_n-(n-1)}.~$ Now we are left with showing that, for prime values of the index p, $~color{blue}{a_p=dfrac{b_p}pinmathbb N},~$ starting from $color{blue}{b_2=2}.~$ Could mathematical induction work in this case, or does the seemingly random distribution of primes throw a wrench into such an approach ? And, if so, could we then maybe slightly modify it, to fit the new conditions ? What would you say ? :-)






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      I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
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      @YiFan: Clarity, perhaps ? Maybe a bit of intuition ?
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    The given difference equation can be solved in the following way. We have for $nge 3$,
    $$
    (n-2)(y_{n+1}-y_n) = (n-1)^2(y_n-y_{n-1}),\
    frac{y_{n+1}-y_n}{n-1}=(n-1)frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}.
    $$
    If we let $displaystyle z_n=frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}$, it follows that
    $$
    z_{n+1}=(n-1)z_n=(n-1)(n-2)z_{n-1}=cdots =(n-1)!z_3=(n-1)!frac{3x_3-2x_2}{1}=(n-1)!
    $$
    This gives
    $$
    y_{n+1}-y_n=(n-1)(n-1)!=n!-(n-1)!,
    $$
    hence $y_n = nx_n = (n-1)!+c$ for some $c$. Plugging $n=2$ yields $2=1!+c$, thus we have that $$displaystyle x_n =frac{(n-1)!+1}{n}.$$






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      The given difference equation can be solved in the following way. We have for $nge 3$,
      $$
      (n-2)(y_{n+1}-y_n) = (n-1)^2(y_n-y_{n-1}),\
      frac{y_{n+1}-y_n}{n-1}=(n-1)frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}.
      $$
      If we let $displaystyle z_n=frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}$, it follows that
      $$
      z_{n+1}=(n-1)z_n=(n-1)(n-2)z_{n-1}=cdots =(n-1)!z_3=(n-1)!frac{3x_3-2x_2}{1}=(n-1)!
      $$
      This gives
      $$
      y_{n+1}-y_n=(n-1)(n-1)!=n!-(n-1)!,
      $$
      hence $y_n = nx_n = (n-1)!+c$ for some $c$. Plugging $n=2$ yields $2=1!+c$, thus we have that $$displaystyle x_n =frac{(n-1)!+1}{n}.$$






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        The given difference equation can be solved in the following way. We have for $nge 3$,
        $$
        (n-2)(y_{n+1}-y_n) = (n-1)^2(y_n-y_{n-1}),\
        frac{y_{n+1}-y_n}{n-1}=(n-1)frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}.
        $$
        If we let $displaystyle z_n=frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}$, it follows that
        $$
        z_{n+1}=(n-1)z_n=(n-1)(n-2)z_{n-1}=cdots =(n-1)!z_3=(n-1)!frac{3x_3-2x_2}{1}=(n-1)!
        $$
        This gives
        $$
        y_{n+1}-y_n=(n-1)(n-1)!=n!-(n-1)!,
        $$
        hence $y_n = nx_n = (n-1)!+c$ for some $c$. Plugging $n=2$ yields $2=1!+c$, thus we have that $$displaystyle x_n =frac{(n-1)!+1}{n}.$$






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        The given difference equation can be solved in the following way. We have for $nge 3$,
        $$
        (n-2)(y_{n+1}-y_n) = (n-1)^2(y_n-y_{n-1}),\
        frac{y_{n+1}-y_n}{n-1}=(n-1)frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}.
        $$
        If we let $displaystyle z_n=frac{y_{n}-y_{n-1}}{n-2}$, it follows that
        $$
        z_{n+1}=(n-1)z_n=(n-1)(n-2)z_{n-1}=cdots =(n-1)!z_3=(n-1)!frac{3x_3-2x_2}{1}=(n-1)!
        $$
        This gives
        $$
        y_{n+1}-y_n=(n-1)(n-1)!=n!-(n-1)!,
        $$
        hence $y_n = nx_n = (n-1)!+c$ for some $c$. Plugging $n=2$ yields $2=1!+c$, thus we have that $$displaystyle x_n =frac{(n-1)!+1}{n}.$$







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            The $n^{rm{th}}$ term of the sequence is $dfrac{(n-1)! + 1}{n}$, which is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime (according to Wilson's Theorem).






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            The $n^{rm{th}}$ term of the sequence is $dfrac{(n-1)! + 1}{n}$, which is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime (according to Wilson's Theorem).






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            The $n^{rm{th}}$ term of the sequence is $dfrac{(n-1)! + 1}{n}$, which is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime (according to Wilson's Theorem).






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            The $n^{rm{th}}$ term of the sequence is $dfrac{(n-1)! + 1}{n}$, which is an integer if and only if $n$ is prime (according to Wilson's Theorem).







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            • 2




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              $endgroup$
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              yesterday






            • 1




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              $endgroup$
              – Oldboy
              yesterday














            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Yes, but it is not obvious. Can you prove it?
              $endgroup$
              – Oldboy
              yesterday






            • 2




              $begingroup$
              I can and I did. The algebra is tedious but not difficult.
              $endgroup$
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              yesterday






            • 1




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              I have upvoted your answer but I accepted the one with the whole solution. :)
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              yesterday








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            yesterday




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            Too long for a comment:




            Numbers don't make any sense




            Actually, they do ! :-) Just take a closer look at the sequence's composite-index denominators, and notice the following:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{5}=5,quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{7}=103,quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{11}=329891,quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{13}=36846277,quaddots
            $$




            Let us now rewrite the sequence's prime-indexed elements in a similar manner, for a more uniform approach:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{color{blue}5}=frac{25}{color{blue}5},quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{color{blue}7}=frac{721}{color{blue}7},quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{color{blue}{11}}=frac{3628801}{color{blue}{11}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{13}}=frac{479001601}{color{blue}{13}},quaddots
            $$




            At this point, we might be able to cheat, and use OEIS to identify the afferent sequence $color{blue}{b_n=ncdot a_n}$ by its first few elements, yielding three possible suspects: but let's say that our mathematical virtue and intellectual integrity will prevail over our base urges of rampant curiosity, and we might resist the temptation to do so. Could we then, without any outside aide, still manage to deduce an expression for $b_n$ ? Indeed, even a superficial glance will undoubtedly reveal the growth to resemble what one might otherwise expect to see in a geometric progression, rather than an arithmetic one. We then have:




            $$
            r_{color{blue}4}=frac{25}{7}simeqcolor{blue}4,quad
            r_{color{blue}5}=frac{121}{25}simeqcolor{blue}5,quad
            r_{color{blue}6}=frac{721}{121}simeqcolor{blue}6,quad
            r_{color{blue}7}=frac{5041}{721}simeqcolor{blue}7,quaddots
            $$




            In short, $color{blue}{r_n=dfrac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}simeq n}.~$ A type of “modified geometric progression”, as it were, with a variable ratio equal to the index itself: Does this sound in any way familiar ? If no, there is still no need to worry: We'll get to the bottom of it soon enough, anyway. More precisely, we have $color{blue}{b_{n+1}=ncdot b_n-(n-1)}.~$ Now we are left with showing that, for prime values of the index p, $~color{blue}{a_p=dfrac{b_p}pinmathbb N},~$ starting from $color{blue}{b_2=2}.~$ Could mathematical induction work in this case, or does the seemingly random distribution of primes throw a wrench into such an approach ? And, if so, could we then maybe slightly modify it, to fit the new conditions ? What would you say ? :-)






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              I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
              $endgroup$
              – YiFan
              21 hours ago






            • 3




              $begingroup$
              @YiFan: Clarity, perhaps ? Maybe a bit of intuition ?
              $endgroup$
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              21 hours ago


















            9












            $begingroup$

            Too long for a comment:




            Numbers don't make any sense




            Actually, they do ! :-) Just take a closer look at the sequence's composite-index denominators, and notice the following:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{5}=5,quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{7}=103,quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{11}=329891,quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{13}=36846277,quaddots
            $$




            Let us now rewrite the sequence's prime-indexed elements in a similar manner, for a more uniform approach:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{color{blue}5}=frac{25}{color{blue}5},quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{color{blue}7}=frac{721}{color{blue}7},quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{color{blue}{11}}=frac{3628801}{color{blue}{11}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{13}}=frac{479001601}{color{blue}{13}},quaddots
            $$




            At this point, we might be able to cheat, and use OEIS to identify the afferent sequence $color{blue}{b_n=ncdot a_n}$ by its first few elements, yielding three possible suspects: but let's say that our mathematical virtue and intellectual integrity will prevail over our base urges of rampant curiosity, and we might resist the temptation to do so. Could we then, without any outside aide, still manage to deduce an expression for $b_n$ ? Indeed, even a superficial glance will undoubtedly reveal the growth to resemble what one might otherwise expect to see in a geometric progression, rather than an arithmetic one. We then have:




            $$
            r_{color{blue}4}=frac{25}{7}simeqcolor{blue}4,quad
            r_{color{blue}5}=frac{121}{25}simeqcolor{blue}5,quad
            r_{color{blue}6}=frac{721}{121}simeqcolor{blue}6,quad
            r_{color{blue}7}=frac{5041}{721}simeqcolor{blue}7,quaddots
            $$




            In short, $color{blue}{r_n=dfrac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}simeq n}.~$ A type of “modified geometric progression”, as it were, with a variable ratio equal to the index itself: Does this sound in any way familiar ? If no, there is still no need to worry: We'll get to the bottom of it soon enough, anyway. More precisely, we have $color{blue}{b_{n+1}=ncdot b_n-(n-1)}.~$ Now we are left with showing that, for prime values of the index p, $~color{blue}{a_p=dfrac{b_p}pinmathbb N},~$ starting from $color{blue}{b_2=2}.~$ Could mathematical induction work in this case, or does the seemingly random distribution of primes throw a wrench into such an approach ? And, if so, could we then maybe slightly modify it, to fit the new conditions ? What would you say ? :-)






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            • $begingroup$
              I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
              $endgroup$
              – YiFan
              21 hours ago






            • 3




              $begingroup$
              @YiFan: Clarity, perhaps ? Maybe a bit of intuition ?
              $endgroup$
              – Lucian
              21 hours ago
















            9












            9








            9





            $begingroup$

            Too long for a comment:




            Numbers don't make any sense




            Actually, they do ! :-) Just take a closer look at the sequence's composite-index denominators, and notice the following:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{5}=5,quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{7}=103,quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{11}=329891,quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{13}=36846277,quaddots
            $$




            Let us now rewrite the sequence's prime-indexed elements in a similar manner, for a more uniform approach:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{color{blue}5}=frac{25}{color{blue}5},quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{color{blue}7}=frac{721}{color{blue}7},quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{color{blue}{11}}=frac{3628801}{color{blue}{11}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{13}}=frac{479001601}{color{blue}{13}},quaddots
            $$




            At this point, we might be able to cheat, and use OEIS to identify the afferent sequence $color{blue}{b_n=ncdot a_n}$ by its first few elements, yielding three possible suspects: but let's say that our mathematical virtue and intellectual integrity will prevail over our base urges of rampant curiosity, and we might resist the temptation to do so. Could we then, without any outside aide, still manage to deduce an expression for $b_n$ ? Indeed, even a superficial glance will undoubtedly reveal the growth to resemble what one might otherwise expect to see in a geometric progression, rather than an arithmetic one. We then have:




            $$
            r_{color{blue}4}=frac{25}{7}simeqcolor{blue}4,quad
            r_{color{blue}5}=frac{121}{25}simeqcolor{blue}5,quad
            r_{color{blue}6}=frac{721}{121}simeqcolor{blue}6,quad
            r_{color{blue}7}=frac{5041}{721}simeqcolor{blue}7,quaddots
            $$




            In short, $color{blue}{r_n=dfrac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}simeq n}.~$ A type of “modified geometric progression”, as it were, with a variable ratio equal to the index itself: Does this sound in any way familiar ? If no, there is still no need to worry: We'll get to the bottom of it soon enough, anyway. More precisely, we have $color{blue}{b_{n+1}=ncdot b_n-(n-1)}.~$ Now we are left with showing that, for prime values of the index p, $~color{blue}{a_p=dfrac{b_p}pinmathbb N},~$ starting from $color{blue}{b_2=2}.~$ Could mathematical induction work in this case, or does the seemingly random distribution of primes throw a wrench into such an approach ? And, if so, could we then maybe slightly modify it, to fit the new conditions ? What would you say ? :-)






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            Too long for a comment:




            Numbers don't make any sense




            Actually, they do ! :-) Just take a closer look at the sequence's composite-index denominators, and notice the following:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{5}=5,quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{7}=103,quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{11}=329891,quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{13}=36846277,quaddots
            $$




            Let us now rewrite the sequence's prime-indexed elements in a similar manner, for a more uniform approach:




            $$
            a_{color{blue}4}=frac{7}{color{blue}4},quad
            a_{color{blue}5}=frac{25}{color{blue}5},quad
            a_{color{blue}6}=frac{121}{color{blue}6},quad
            a_{color{blue}7}=frac{721}{color{blue}7},quad
            a_{color{blue}8}=frac{5041}{color{blue}8},quad
            a_{color{blue}9}=frac{40321}{color{blue}9},quad
            \~\~\
            a_{color{blue}{10}}=frac{362881}{color{blue}{10}},
            a_{color{blue}{11}}=frac{3628801}{color{blue}{11}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{12}}=frac{39916801}{color{blue}{12}},quad
            a_{color{blue}{13}}=frac{479001601}{color{blue}{13}},quaddots
            $$




            At this point, we might be able to cheat, and use OEIS to identify the afferent sequence $color{blue}{b_n=ncdot a_n}$ by its first few elements, yielding three possible suspects: but let's say that our mathematical virtue and intellectual integrity will prevail over our base urges of rampant curiosity, and we might resist the temptation to do so. Could we then, without any outside aide, still manage to deduce an expression for $b_n$ ? Indeed, even a superficial glance will undoubtedly reveal the growth to resemble what one might otherwise expect to see in a geometric progression, rather than an arithmetic one. We then have:




            $$
            r_{color{blue}4}=frac{25}{7}simeqcolor{blue}4,quad
            r_{color{blue}5}=frac{121}{25}simeqcolor{blue}5,quad
            r_{color{blue}6}=frac{721}{121}simeqcolor{blue}6,quad
            r_{color{blue}7}=frac{5041}{721}simeqcolor{blue}7,quaddots
            $$




            In short, $color{blue}{r_n=dfrac{b_{n+1}}{b_n}simeq n}.~$ A type of “modified geometric progression”, as it were, with a variable ratio equal to the index itself: Does this sound in any way familiar ? If no, there is still no need to worry: We'll get to the bottom of it soon enough, anyway. More precisely, we have $color{blue}{b_{n+1}=ncdot b_n-(n-1)}.~$ Now we are left with showing that, for prime values of the index p, $~color{blue}{a_p=dfrac{b_p}pinmathbb N},~$ starting from $color{blue}{b_2=2}.~$ Could mathematical induction work in this case, or does the seemingly random distribution of primes throw a wrench into such an approach ? And, if so, could we then maybe slightly modify it, to fit the new conditions ? What would you say ? :-)







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              I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
              $endgroup$
              – YiFan
              21 hours ago






            • 3




              $begingroup$
              @YiFan: Clarity, perhaps ? Maybe a bit of intuition ?
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              21 hours ago




















            • $begingroup$
              I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
              $endgroup$
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              21 hours ago






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              21 hours ago


















            $begingroup$
            I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
            $endgroup$
            – YiFan
            21 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            I'm confused. What does this add to the existing answers which already give the explicit formula $x_n=((n-1)!+1)/n$?
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            – YiFan
            21 hours ago




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