Euler's method initial value problem — how should I plot the solution?
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We are given the following initial value problem:
$qquad y' = t,e^{3,t} -2,y, quad 0 le t le 1, quad y(0)=0$
Use Euler`s method to approximate the solution to this initial value problem. In this case, the step size is $h=0.5$.
Plot the approximating solution $y_k$ along with the exact solution $y(t)$.
plotting differential-equations homework
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We are given the following initial value problem:
$qquad y' = t,e^{3,t} -2,y, quad 0 le t le 1, quad y(0)=0$
Use Euler`s method to approximate the solution to this initial value problem. In this case, the step size is $h=0.5$.
Plot the approximating solution $y_k$ along with the exact solution $y(t)$.
plotting differential-equations homework
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Are you sure that you are in the right forum? This one is about the Mathematica software. Perhaps this might fit better in math.stackexchange.com?
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– MarcoB
Mar 24 at 1:36
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 2:18
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
Mar 24 at 2:41
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 5:27
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We are given the following initial value problem:
$qquad y' = t,e^{3,t} -2,y, quad 0 le t le 1, quad y(0)=0$
Use Euler`s method to approximate the solution to this initial value problem. In this case, the step size is $h=0.5$.
Plot the approximating solution $y_k$ along with the exact solution $y(t)$.
plotting differential-equations homework
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We are given the following initial value problem:
$qquad y' = t,e^{3,t} -2,y, quad 0 le t le 1, quad y(0)=0$
Use Euler`s method to approximate the solution to this initial value problem. In this case, the step size is $h=0.5$.
Plot the approximating solution $y_k$ along with the exact solution $y(t)$.
plotting differential-equations homework
plotting differential-equations homework
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Are you sure that you are in the right forum? This one is about the Mathematica software. Perhaps this might fit better in math.stackexchange.com?
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– MarcoB
Mar 24 at 1:36
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 2:18
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
Mar 24 at 2:41
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 5:27
add a comment |
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Are you sure that you are in the right forum? This one is about the Mathematica software. Perhaps this might fit better in math.stackexchange.com?
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– MarcoB
Mar 24 at 1:36
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 2:18
2
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
Mar 24 at 2:41
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 5:27
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Are you sure that you are in the right forum? This one is about the Mathematica software. Perhaps this might fit better in math.stackexchange.com?
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– MarcoB
Mar 24 at 1:36
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Are you sure that you are in the right forum? This one is about the Mathematica software. Perhaps this might fit better in math.stackexchange.com?
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– MarcoB
Mar 24 at 1:36
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 2:18
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 2:18
2
2
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
Mar 24 at 2:41
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
Mar 24 at 2:41
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 5:27
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 5:27
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Euler's method to solve, plot, and compare to known solution:
$y^prime = te^{3t}-2y, quad y(0)=0, quad 0 le t le 1. $
y = 0; t = 0.0;
n = 20; h = 1/n;
f[y_, t_] := t Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
ξ = {y};
Do[(
y = y + f[y, t] h;
t = t + h;
ξ = Join[ξ, {y}]
), n
]
p = Transpose[{Range[0, n]/n, ξ}];
Clear[y, t];
DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t]
q = Plot[Evaluate[y[t] /. %], {t, 0, 1}, PlotStyle -> Gray];
Show[q, ListPlot[p, PlotStyle -> Blue]]
Here is the output from DSolve
:
{{y[t] -> 1/25 E^(-2 t) (1 - E^(5 t) + 5 E^(5 t) t)}}
Or in plain English, the solution is:
$y(t) = frac{1}{25} (e^{-2 t} - e^{3t}+5t e^{3t})$
Here is the plot of the computed points along with the known solution (computed with DSolve
above).
With $h=0.5$, Euler's method does not do so well:
Again, for $h=1/20$, we can compute y[t]
at each approximation point and store it in the list $eta$:
m = DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t];
[Eta] = y[t] /. m /. t -> Range[0.0, n]/n;
Then we can tabulated $t, xi, eta$ (The list $xi$ contains the Euler approximations).
TableForm[Transpose@Join[Transpose@N@p, [Eta]]]
$begin{array}{lll}
0.00 &0.00000000 &0.00000000\
0.05 &0.00000000 &0.00133847\
0.10 &0.00290459 &0.00575205\
0.15 &0.00936342 &0.01394960\
0.20 &0.02018940 &0.02681280\
0.25 &0.03639170 &0.04543120\
0.30 &0.05921500 &0.07114450\
0.35 &0.09018750 &0.10559300\
0.40 &0.13117800 &0.15077800\
0.45 &0.18446200 &0.20913400\
0.50 &0.25280800 &0.28361700\
0.55 &0.33957000 &0.37780300\
0.60 &0.44880500 &0.49602000\
0.65 &0.58541300 &0.64348300\
0.70 &0.75530400 &0.82648100\
0.75 &0.96559000 &1.05258000\
0.80 &1.22482000 &1.33086000\
0.85 &1.54327000 &1.67223000\
0.90 &1.93324000 &2.08977000\
0.95 &2.40951000 &2.59915000\
1.00 &2.98972000 &3.21910000\
end{array}$
We can also plot the error $ = eta - xi$:
ListPlot[Transpose@{Range[0, n]/n, Flatten@[Eta] - [Xi]},
Axes -> False, Frame -> True,
FrameLabel -> {t, "Error=y[t]-Euler Approx."}]
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forwardEuler[{t_, y_}] := {t + h, y + h f[t, y]} // N
f[t_, y_] = t*Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
h = 0.5;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h]; (*0 <= t <=1 *)
ics = {0, 0};
With h=0.5 you get only 3 points,
NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps]
{{0, 0}, {0.5, 0.}, {1., 1.12042}}
You have to choose more steps!
h = 0.05;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h];
euler = NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps];
ListLinePlot[euler, GridLines -> Automatic]
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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Euler's method to solve, plot, and compare to known solution:
$y^prime = te^{3t}-2y, quad y(0)=0, quad 0 le t le 1. $
y = 0; t = 0.0;
n = 20; h = 1/n;
f[y_, t_] := t Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
ξ = {y};
Do[(
y = y + f[y, t] h;
t = t + h;
ξ = Join[ξ, {y}]
), n
]
p = Transpose[{Range[0, n]/n, ξ}];
Clear[y, t];
DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t]
q = Plot[Evaluate[y[t] /. %], {t, 0, 1}, PlotStyle -> Gray];
Show[q, ListPlot[p, PlotStyle -> Blue]]
Here is the output from DSolve
:
{{y[t] -> 1/25 E^(-2 t) (1 - E^(5 t) + 5 E^(5 t) t)}}
Or in plain English, the solution is:
$y(t) = frac{1}{25} (e^{-2 t} - e^{3t}+5t e^{3t})$
Here is the plot of the computed points along with the known solution (computed with DSolve
above).
With $h=0.5$, Euler's method does not do so well:
Again, for $h=1/20$, we can compute y[t]
at each approximation point and store it in the list $eta$:
m = DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t];
[Eta] = y[t] /. m /. t -> Range[0.0, n]/n;
Then we can tabulated $t, xi, eta$ (The list $xi$ contains the Euler approximations).
TableForm[Transpose@Join[Transpose@N@p, [Eta]]]
$begin{array}{lll}
0.00 &0.00000000 &0.00000000\
0.05 &0.00000000 &0.00133847\
0.10 &0.00290459 &0.00575205\
0.15 &0.00936342 &0.01394960\
0.20 &0.02018940 &0.02681280\
0.25 &0.03639170 &0.04543120\
0.30 &0.05921500 &0.07114450\
0.35 &0.09018750 &0.10559300\
0.40 &0.13117800 &0.15077800\
0.45 &0.18446200 &0.20913400\
0.50 &0.25280800 &0.28361700\
0.55 &0.33957000 &0.37780300\
0.60 &0.44880500 &0.49602000\
0.65 &0.58541300 &0.64348300\
0.70 &0.75530400 &0.82648100\
0.75 &0.96559000 &1.05258000\
0.80 &1.22482000 &1.33086000\
0.85 &1.54327000 &1.67223000\
0.90 &1.93324000 &2.08977000\
0.95 &2.40951000 &2.59915000\
1.00 &2.98972000 &3.21910000\
end{array}$
We can also plot the error $ = eta - xi$:
ListPlot[Transpose@{Range[0, n]/n, Flatten@[Eta] - [Xi]},
Axes -> False, Frame -> True,
FrameLabel -> {t, "Error=y[t]-Euler Approx."}]
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Euler's method to solve, plot, and compare to known solution:
$y^prime = te^{3t}-2y, quad y(0)=0, quad 0 le t le 1. $
y = 0; t = 0.0;
n = 20; h = 1/n;
f[y_, t_] := t Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
ξ = {y};
Do[(
y = y + f[y, t] h;
t = t + h;
ξ = Join[ξ, {y}]
), n
]
p = Transpose[{Range[0, n]/n, ξ}];
Clear[y, t];
DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t]
q = Plot[Evaluate[y[t] /. %], {t, 0, 1}, PlotStyle -> Gray];
Show[q, ListPlot[p, PlotStyle -> Blue]]
Here is the output from DSolve
:
{{y[t] -> 1/25 E^(-2 t) (1 - E^(5 t) + 5 E^(5 t) t)}}
Or in plain English, the solution is:
$y(t) = frac{1}{25} (e^{-2 t} - e^{3t}+5t e^{3t})$
Here is the plot of the computed points along with the known solution (computed with DSolve
above).
With $h=0.5$, Euler's method does not do so well:
Again, for $h=1/20$, we can compute y[t]
at each approximation point and store it in the list $eta$:
m = DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t];
[Eta] = y[t] /. m /. t -> Range[0.0, n]/n;
Then we can tabulated $t, xi, eta$ (The list $xi$ contains the Euler approximations).
TableForm[Transpose@Join[Transpose@N@p, [Eta]]]
$begin{array}{lll}
0.00 &0.00000000 &0.00000000\
0.05 &0.00000000 &0.00133847\
0.10 &0.00290459 &0.00575205\
0.15 &0.00936342 &0.01394960\
0.20 &0.02018940 &0.02681280\
0.25 &0.03639170 &0.04543120\
0.30 &0.05921500 &0.07114450\
0.35 &0.09018750 &0.10559300\
0.40 &0.13117800 &0.15077800\
0.45 &0.18446200 &0.20913400\
0.50 &0.25280800 &0.28361700\
0.55 &0.33957000 &0.37780300\
0.60 &0.44880500 &0.49602000\
0.65 &0.58541300 &0.64348300\
0.70 &0.75530400 &0.82648100\
0.75 &0.96559000 &1.05258000\
0.80 &1.22482000 &1.33086000\
0.85 &1.54327000 &1.67223000\
0.90 &1.93324000 &2.08977000\
0.95 &2.40951000 &2.59915000\
1.00 &2.98972000 &3.21910000\
end{array}$
We can also plot the error $ = eta - xi$:
ListPlot[Transpose@{Range[0, n]/n, Flatten@[Eta] - [Xi]},
Axes -> False, Frame -> True,
FrameLabel -> {t, "Error=y[t]-Euler Approx."}]
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$begingroup$
Euler's method to solve, plot, and compare to known solution:
$y^prime = te^{3t}-2y, quad y(0)=0, quad 0 le t le 1. $
y = 0; t = 0.0;
n = 20; h = 1/n;
f[y_, t_] := t Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
ξ = {y};
Do[(
y = y + f[y, t] h;
t = t + h;
ξ = Join[ξ, {y}]
), n
]
p = Transpose[{Range[0, n]/n, ξ}];
Clear[y, t];
DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t]
q = Plot[Evaluate[y[t] /. %], {t, 0, 1}, PlotStyle -> Gray];
Show[q, ListPlot[p, PlotStyle -> Blue]]
Here is the output from DSolve
:
{{y[t] -> 1/25 E^(-2 t) (1 - E^(5 t) + 5 E^(5 t) t)}}
Or in plain English, the solution is:
$y(t) = frac{1}{25} (e^{-2 t} - e^{3t}+5t e^{3t})$
Here is the plot of the computed points along with the known solution (computed with DSolve
above).
With $h=0.5$, Euler's method does not do so well:
Again, for $h=1/20$, we can compute y[t]
at each approximation point and store it in the list $eta$:
m = DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t];
[Eta] = y[t] /. m /. t -> Range[0.0, n]/n;
Then we can tabulated $t, xi, eta$ (The list $xi$ contains the Euler approximations).
TableForm[Transpose@Join[Transpose@N@p, [Eta]]]
$begin{array}{lll}
0.00 &0.00000000 &0.00000000\
0.05 &0.00000000 &0.00133847\
0.10 &0.00290459 &0.00575205\
0.15 &0.00936342 &0.01394960\
0.20 &0.02018940 &0.02681280\
0.25 &0.03639170 &0.04543120\
0.30 &0.05921500 &0.07114450\
0.35 &0.09018750 &0.10559300\
0.40 &0.13117800 &0.15077800\
0.45 &0.18446200 &0.20913400\
0.50 &0.25280800 &0.28361700\
0.55 &0.33957000 &0.37780300\
0.60 &0.44880500 &0.49602000\
0.65 &0.58541300 &0.64348300\
0.70 &0.75530400 &0.82648100\
0.75 &0.96559000 &1.05258000\
0.80 &1.22482000 &1.33086000\
0.85 &1.54327000 &1.67223000\
0.90 &1.93324000 &2.08977000\
0.95 &2.40951000 &2.59915000\
1.00 &2.98972000 &3.21910000\
end{array}$
We can also plot the error $ = eta - xi$:
ListPlot[Transpose@{Range[0, n]/n, Flatten@[Eta] - [Xi]},
Axes -> False, Frame -> True,
FrameLabel -> {t, "Error=y[t]-Euler Approx."}]
$endgroup$
Euler's method to solve, plot, and compare to known solution:
$y^prime = te^{3t}-2y, quad y(0)=0, quad 0 le t le 1. $
y = 0; t = 0.0;
n = 20; h = 1/n;
f[y_, t_] := t Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
ξ = {y};
Do[(
y = y + f[y, t] h;
t = t + h;
ξ = Join[ξ, {y}]
), n
]
p = Transpose[{Range[0, n]/n, ξ}];
Clear[y, t];
DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t]
q = Plot[Evaluate[y[t] /. %], {t, 0, 1}, PlotStyle -> Gray];
Show[q, ListPlot[p, PlotStyle -> Blue]]
Here is the output from DSolve
:
{{y[t] -> 1/25 E^(-2 t) (1 - E^(5 t) + 5 E^(5 t) t)}}
Or in plain English, the solution is:
$y(t) = frac{1}{25} (e^{-2 t} - e^{3t}+5t e^{3t})$
Here is the plot of the computed points along with the known solution (computed with DSolve
above).
With $h=0.5$, Euler's method does not do so well:
Again, for $h=1/20$, we can compute y[t]
at each approximation point and store it in the list $eta$:
m = DSolve[{y'[t] == t Exp[3 t] - 2 y[t], y[0] == 0}, y[t], t];
[Eta] = y[t] /. m /. t -> Range[0.0, n]/n;
Then we can tabulated $t, xi, eta$ (The list $xi$ contains the Euler approximations).
TableForm[Transpose@Join[Transpose@N@p, [Eta]]]
$begin{array}{lll}
0.00 &0.00000000 &0.00000000\
0.05 &0.00000000 &0.00133847\
0.10 &0.00290459 &0.00575205\
0.15 &0.00936342 &0.01394960\
0.20 &0.02018940 &0.02681280\
0.25 &0.03639170 &0.04543120\
0.30 &0.05921500 &0.07114450\
0.35 &0.09018750 &0.10559300\
0.40 &0.13117800 &0.15077800\
0.45 &0.18446200 &0.20913400\
0.50 &0.25280800 &0.28361700\
0.55 &0.33957000 &0.37780300\
0.60 &0.44880500 &0.49602000\
0.65 &0.58541300 &0.64348300\
0.70 &0.75530400 &0.82648100\
0.75 &0.96559000 &1.05258000\
0.80 &1.22482000 &1.33086000\
0.85 &1.54327000 &1.67223000\
0.90 &1.93324000 &2.08977000\
0.95 &2.40951000 &2.59915000\
1.00 &2.98972000 &3.21910000\
end{array}$
We can also plot the error $ = eta - xi$:
ListPlot[Transpose@{Range[0, n]/n, Flatten@[Eta] - [Xi]},
Axes -> False, Frame -> True,
FrameLabel -> {t, "Error=y[t]-Euler Approx."}]
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forwardEuler[{t_, y_}] := {t + h, y + h f[t, y]} // N
f[t_, y_] = t*Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
h = 0.5;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h]; (*0 <= t <=1 *)
ics = {0, 0};
With h=0.5 you get only 3 points,
NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps]
{{0, 0}, {0.5, 0.}, {1., 1.12042}}
You have to choose more steps!
h = 0.05;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h];
euler = NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps];
ListLinePlot[euler, GridLines -> Automatic]
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
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forwardEuler[{t_, y_}] := {t + h, y + h f[t, y]} // N
f[t_, y_] = t*Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
h = 0.5;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h]; (*0 <= t <=1 *)
ics = {0, 0};
With h=0.5 you get only 3 points,
NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps]
{{0, 0}, {0.5, 0.}, {1., 1.12042}}
You have to choose more steps!
h = 0.05;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h];
euler = NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps];
ListLinePlot[euler, GridLines -> Automatic]
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
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forwardEuler[{t_, y_}] := {t + h, y + h f[t, y]} // N
f[t_, y_] = t*Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
h = 0.5;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h]; (*0 <= t <=1 *)
ics = {0, 0};
With h=0.5 you get only 3 points,
NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps]
{{0, 0}, {0.5, 0.}, {1., 1.12042}}
You have to choose more steps!
h = 0.05;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h];
euler = NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps];
ListLinePlot[euler, GridLines -> Automatic]
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forwardEuler[{t_, y_}] := {t + h, y + h f[t, y]} // N
f[t_, y_] = t*Exp[3 t] - 2 y;
h = 0.5;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h]; (*0 <= t <=1 *)
ics = {0, 0};
With h=0.5 you get only 3 points,
NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps]
{{0, 0}, {0.5, 0.}, {1., 1.12042}}
You have to choose more steps!
h = 0.05;
steps = Floor[(1 - 0)/h];
euler = NestList[forwardEuler, ics, steps];
ListLinePlot[euler, GridLines -> Automatic]
answered Mar 24 at 11:40
rmwrmw
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
add a comment |
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
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Looking at your solution, I realized that I updated $t_{n+1} = t_n +h$ too early. I've made the correction in my answer. Thank you very much!
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– mjw
Mar 24 at 13:40
add a comment |
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– MarcoB
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Yes, plot the calculated $y$ vs $t$ at the computed points. Below is an example computed in Mathematica. $n=20$ steps.
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A related question.
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– J. M. is slightly pensive♦
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@J.M., Yes, your method there (at the linked question) is a nice way to go about it!
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– mjw
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