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I have Windows 8.1 with TrueCrypt 7.1a. I have encrypted the whole of my secondary drive. The "Optimise Drives" dialog reports the media type as "unknown" and the current status reports as "Optimisation not available".



My backup drive which is USB-connected but similarly encrypted behaves the same way. My primary drive is also encrypted but in this case Windows reports the type as "Hard disk drive" and the status is "OK"



To be honest I've never tried to defrag a truecrypted drive before, but the documentation says it should work.










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  • I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 14:34











  • I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

    – Andy
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:44











  • I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:52











  • See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

    – Andrew
    Nov 1 '17 at 6:46
















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I have Windows 8.1 with TrueCrypt 7.1a. I have encrypted the whole of my secondary drive. The "Optimise Drives" dialog reports the media type as "unknown" and the current status reports as "Optimisation not available".



My backup drive which is USB-connected but similarly encrypted behaves the same way. My primary drive is also encrypted but in this case Windows reports the type as "Hard disk drive" and the status is "OK"



To be honest I've never tried to defrag a truecrypted drive before, but the documentation says it should work.










share|improve this question























  • I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 14:34











  • I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

    – Andy
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:44











  • I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:52











  • See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

    – Andrew
    Nov 1 '17 at 6:46














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I have Windows 8.1 with TrueCrypt 7.1a. I have encrypted the whole of my secondary drive. The "Optimise Drives" dialog reports the media type as "unknown" and the current status reports as "Optimisation not available".



My backup drive which is USB-connected but similarly encrypted behaves the same way. My primary drive is also encrypted but in this case Windows reports the type as "Hard disk drive" and the status is "OK"



To be honest I've never tried to defrag a truecrypted drive before, but the documentation says it should work.










share|improve this question














I have Windows 8.1 with TrueCrypt 7.1a. I have encrypted the whole of my secondary drive. The "Optimise Drives" dialog reports the media type as "unknown" and the current status reports as "Optimisation not available".



My backup drive which is USB-connected but similarly encrypted behaves the same way. My primary drive is also encrypted but in this case Windows reports the type as "Hard disk drive" and the status is "OK"



To be honest I've never tried to defrag a truecrypted drive before, but the documentation says it should work.







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  • I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 14:34











  • I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

    – Andy
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:44











  • I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:52











  • See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

    – Andrew
    Nov 1 '17 at 6:46



















  • I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 14:34











  • I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

    – Andy
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:44











  • I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

    – Frank Thomas
    Dec 23 '13 at 15:52











  • See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

    – Andrew
    Nov 1 '17 at 6:46

















I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

– Frank Thomas
Dec 23 '13 at 14:34





I'm not familliar with an optimization feature in truecrypt. are you using a win8 feature to try to optimize? if so, I'd give it up as a wash, since it appears to be attempting to read the drive in a way that doesn't pass through the truecrypt driver, and thus can't see the real volume. Yes, a volume Defrag should work. no idea if that covers the sum-total of the optimization feature's actions. if you have a link to a description of the feature of which you speak, that may help us poor troglodytes that won't touch win8.

– Frank Thomas
Dec 23 '13 at 14:34













I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

– Andy
Dec 23 '13 at 15:44





I'm trying to use the windows 8 optimization (aka defrag) feature - windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-8/…. The truecrypt documentation says truecrypt is compatible with defrag applications. I've just tried the USB drive with Windows 7 using the same version of truecrypt and it works OK, so it's presumably a windows 8 thing. Incidentally both drives are proper disks, not SSD.

– Andy
Dec 23 '13 at 15:44













I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

– Frank Thomas
Dec 23 '13 at 15:52





I'd try a third party defragger like defraggler, which should focus on the volume, not the partition.

– Frank Thomas
Dec 23 '13 at 15:52













See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

– Andrew
Nov 1 '17 at 6:46





See also: superuser.com/questions/593356/…

– Andrew
Nov 1 '17 at 6:46










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By trial and error I found a solution (if not an explanation). Simply run the command-line version of defrag and all works fine.



Interestingly the "optimize drives" dialog correctly shows the status and progress of the command-line defrag while it's running. once it's finished, it goes back to "Optimisation not available" again.



Just another piece of Windows 8 crapness I guess :-(






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    You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

    – AlexV
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  • I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

    – dnegel
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By trial and error I found a solution (if not an explanation). Simply run the command-line version of defrag and all works fine.



Interestingly the "optimize drives" dialog correctly shows the status and progress of the command-line defrag while it's running. once it's finished, it goes back to "Optimisation not available" again.



Just another piece of Windows 8 crapness I guess :-(






share|improve this answer



















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    You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

    – AlexV
    May 9 '14 at 20:00











  • I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

    – dnegel
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By trial and error I found a solution (if not an explanation). Simply run the command-line version of defrag and all works fine.



Interestingly the "optimize drives" dialog correctly shows the status and progress of the command-line defrag while it's running. once it's finished, it goes back to "Optimisation not available" again.



Just another piece of Windows 8 crapness I guess :-(






share|improve this answer



















  • 2





    You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

    – AlexV
    May 9 '14 at 20:00











  • I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

    – dnegel
    Jan 25 at 21:28
















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By trial and error I found a solution (if not an explanation). Simply run the command-line version of defrag and all works fine.



Interestingly the "optimize drives" dialog correctly shows the status and progress of the command-line defrag while it's running. once it's finished, it goes back to "Optimisation not available" again.



Just another piece of Windows 8 crapness I guess :-(






share|improve this answer













By trial and error I found a solution (if not an explanation). Simply run the command-line version of defrag and all works fine.



Interestingly the "optimize drives" dialog correctly shows the status and progress of the command-line defrag while it's running. once it's finished, it goes back to "Optimisation not available" again.



Just another piece of Windows 8 crapness I guess :-(







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    You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

    – AlexV
    May 9 '14 at 20:00











  • I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

    – dnegel
    Jan 25 at 21:28
















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    You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

    – AlexV
    May 9 '14 at 20:00











  • I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

    – dnegel
    Jan 25 at 21:28










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You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

– AlexV
May 9 '14 at 20:00





You have to run the command prompt as administrator then type defrag x: (where x is the drive letter to optimize).

– AlexV
May 9 '14 at 20:00













I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

– dnegel
Jan 25 at 21:28







I have the same issue with VeraCrypt on Windows 8.1. In case of an underlying SSD, use defrag x: /L (x: is the mounted drive, /L for to "Perform retrim on the specified volumes"). Hope that helps some other people.

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