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Each set of minuses contains an integer in the range [1,5]. The given numbers are the sum of the surrounding 4 numbers.





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13 14 11
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11 10 13
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11 9 14
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  • Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
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Each set of minuses contains an integer in the range [1,5]. The given numbers are the sum of the surrounding 4 numbers.





--- --- --- ---
13 14 11
--- --- --- ---
11 10 13
--- --- --- ---
11 9 14
--- --- --- ---



Can you solve the grid?










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  • Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
    – AHKieran
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  • @AHKieran; not yet!
    – JonMark Perry
    Dec 11 at 9:07













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Each set of minuses contains an integer in the range [1,5]. The given numbers are the sum of the surrounding 4 numbers.





--- --- --- ---
13 14 11
--- --- --- ---
11 10 13
--- --- --- ---
11 9 14
--- --- --- ---



Can you solve the grid?










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Each set of minuses contains an integer in the range [1,5]. The given numbers are the sum of the surrounding 4 numbers.





--- --- --- ---
13 14 11
--- --- --- ---
11 10 13
--- --- --- ---
11 9 14
--- --- --- ---



Can you solve the grid?







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  • Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
    – AHKieran
    Dec 11 at 9:04










  • @AHKieran; not yet!
    – JonMark Perry
    Dec 11 at 9:07


















  • Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
    – AHKieran
    Dec 11 at 9:04










  • @AHKieran; not yet!
    – JonMark Perry
    Dec 11 at 9:07
















Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
– AHKieran
Dec 11 at 9:04




Are there any rules on number of uses of each integer or using the same integer per row/column?
– AHKieran
Dec 11 at 9:04












@AHKieran; not yet!
– JonMark Perry
Dec 11 at 9:07




@AHKieran; not yet!
– JonMark Perry
Dec 11 at 9:07










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Not sure how to format this, but from left to right, then top to bottom, the numbers would be:

2, 5, 5, 1

5, 1, 3, 2

2, 3, 3, 5

5, 1, 2, 4







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Its has many solutons, just need to start somewhere




3      3      3       1

   13     14    11

2      5      3       4

   11     10     13

2      1      1       5

   11     9     14

5      3      4       4







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    Here is my solution in excel:




    solution




    If you want to solve it by yourself, here is file 9sum.xlsx.






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    This was fun!




    For my solution, I started in the four corners and worked my way inwards, ignoring the 1-5 constraint. When I had completed the grid without constraints, I again started in the corners to adjust numbers to fit the constraints until all constraints were satisfied.



    -3- -4- -4- -1-
    13 14 11
    -1- -5- -1- -5-
    11 10 13
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      2 5    3    2
        13  14  11
      3      3      3      3
        11     10     13
      3      2      2      5
        11     9     14
      4      2      3      4


      Given the multiple possible answers, it is possible to add further restrictions, such as using integers from [2, 5] only (this solution qualifies!)





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        Not sure how to format this, but from left to right, then top to bottom, the numbers would be:

        2, 5, 5, 1

        5, 1, 3, 2

        2, 3, 3, 5

        5, 1, 2, 4







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        • from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
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        My answer:




        Not sure how to format this, but from left to right, then top to bottom, the numbers would be:

        2, 5, 5, 1

        5, 1, 3, 2

        2, 3, 3, 5

        5, 1, 2, 4







        share|improve this answer





















        • from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
          – AHKieran
          Dec 11 at 9:21













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        up vote
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        My answer:




        Not sure how to format this, but from left to right, then top to bottom, the numbers would be:

        2, 5, 5, 1

        5, 1, 3, 2

        2, 3, 3, 5

        5, 1, 2, 4







        share|improve this answer












        My answer:




        Not sure how to format this, but from left to right, then top to bottom, the numbers would be:

        2, 5, 5, 1

        5, 1, 3, 2

        2, 3, 3, 5

        5, 1, 2, 4








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        • from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
          – AHKieran
          Dec 11 at 9:21


















        • from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
          – AHKieran
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        from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
        – AHKieran
        Dec 11 at 9:21




        from the looks of it there are multiple solutions, for some reason the other answer didn't appear until after I posted mine...
        – AHKieran
        Dec 11 at 9:21










        up vote
        3
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        Its has many solutons, just need to start somewhere




        3      3      3       1

           13     14    11

        2      5      3       4

           11     10     13

        2      1      1       5

           11     9     14

        5      3      4       4







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          Its has many solutons, just need to start somewhere




          3      3      3       1

             13     14    11

          2      5      3       4

             11     10     13

          2      1      1       5

             11     9     14

          5      3      4       4







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            up vote
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            up vote
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            Its has many solutons, just need to start somewhere




            3      3      3       1

               13     14    11

            2      5      3       4

               11     10     13

            2      1      1       5

               11     9     14

            5      3      4       4







            share|improve this answer












            Its has many solutons, just need to start somewhere




            3      3      3       1

               13     14    11

            2      5      3       4

               11     10     13

            2      1      1       5

               11     9     14

            5      3      4       4








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                solution




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                Here is my solution in excel:




                solution




                If you want to solve it by yourself, here is file 9sum.xlsx.






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                up vote
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                up vote
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                Here is my solution in excel:




                solution




                If you want to solve it by yourself, here is file 9sum.xlsx.






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                Here is my solution in excel:




                solution




                If you want to solve it by yourself, here is file 9sum.xlsx.







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                Also this grid is a solution :


                2 4 5 2

                3 4 1 3

                3 1 4 5

                4 3 1 4







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                4 3 1 4







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                4 3 1 4







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                3 4 1 3

                3 1 4 5

                4 3 1 4








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                This was fun!




                For my solution, I started in the four corners and worked my way inwards, ignoring the 1-5 constraint. When I had completed the grid without constraints, I again started in the corners to adjust numbers to fit the constraints until all constraints were satisfied.



                -3- -4- -4- -1-
                13 14 11
                -1- -5- -1- -5-
                11 10 13
                -3- -2- -2- -5-
                11 9 14
                -5- -1- -4- -3-






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                  This was fun!




                  For my solution, I started in the four corners and worked my way inwards, ignoring the 1-5 constraint. When I had completed the grid without constraints, I again started in the corners to adjust numbers to fit the constraints until all constraints were satisfied.



                  -3- -4- -4- -1-
                  13 14 11
                  -1- -5- -1- -5-
                  11 10 13
                  -3- -2- -2- -5-
                  11 9 14
                  -5- -1- -4- -3-






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                    up vote
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                    up vote
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                    This was fun!




                    For my solution, I started in the four corners and worked my way inwards, ignoring the 1-5 constraint. When I had completed the grid without constraints, I again started in the corners to adjust numbers to fit the constraints until all constraints were satisfied.



                    -3- -4- -4- -1-
                    13 14 11
                    -1- -5- -1- -5-
                    11 10 13
                    -3- -2- -2- -5-
                    11 9 14
                    -5- -1- -4- -3-






                    share|improve this answer








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                    This was fun!




                    For my solution, I started in the four corners and worked my way inwards, ignoring the 1-5 constraint. When I had completed the grid without constraints, I again started in the corners to adjust numbers to fit the constraints until all constraints were satisfied.



                    -3- -4- -4- -1-
                    13 14 11
                    -1- -5- -1- -5-
                    11 10 13
                    -3- -2- -2- -5-
                    11 9 14
                    -5- -1- -4- -3-







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                        Given the multiple possible answers, it is possible to add further restrictions, such as using integers from [2, 5] only (this solution qualifies!)





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                          Given the multiple possible answers, it is possible to add further restrictions, such as using integers from [2, 5] only (this solution qualifies!)





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                            Given the multiple possible answers, it is possible to add further restrictions, such as using integers from [2, 5] only (this solution qualifies!)





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                            Given the multiple possible answers, it is possible to add further restrictions, such as using integers from [2, 5] only (this solution qualifies!)






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