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I have tried this problem and keep on getting 96 as my answer, where the correct answer is 75.



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    I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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    @FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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    The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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I have tried this problem and keep on getting 96 as my answer, where the correct answer is 75.



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If a 12 by 16 sheet of paper is folded on its diagonal, what is the area of the region of the overlap (the region where paper is on top of paper)?







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    I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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    @FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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    The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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I have tried this problem and keep on getting 96 as my answer, where the correct answer is 75.



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If a 12 by 16 sheet of paper is folded on its diagonal, what is the area of the region of the overlap (the region where paper is on top of paper)?







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I have tried this problem and keep on getting 96 as my answer, where the correct answer is 75.



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    I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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    @FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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    The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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    I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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    @FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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    6 hours ago










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    The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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I either don't understand the question, or the answer is 96.
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@FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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@FlorisClaassens I get 75. How do you two get $96$? If we compare work we can maybe see where one (or both) of us are making the error.
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The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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The answer can't be $96$. An oblong rectangle won't fold evenly onto itself so the overlapping area must be less than one half the area of the rectangle. $96$ is exactly equal to half the area so $96$ is an impossible answer.
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The overlapping region is triangle $AEC$, with base $AC=20$ and altitude $EH$. To find $EH$, observe that $GH=BF=48/5$ and $DB'=AC-2CF=28/5$. By similitude one then gets $EH=15/2$.



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The overlap is not exactly half the piece of paper, try folding a piece of paper along the diagonal and you'll see why. I can confirm the answer is indeed 75.






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    The area is (1/2)(20)(120/16) = 75 which is half the base times the hight. The hight is found by similar triangles.






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      The diagonal is $20$ inches long. (Pythagorean Theorem).



      The angles well be $A= arcsin frac {12}{20}=arccos frac {16}{20}$ and $B= arcsin frac {16}{20}=arccos frac {12}{20}$ with $A < B$ and $A + B = 90^circ$. (Basic trig definitions. Draw a picture to verify.)



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      The resulting shape will be an isosceles triangle with a base of $20$ and two base angles of $A$. This cuts in half into two congruent right triangles.



      The proportions of one of these right triangles is Hypotenuse = $h$. Base = $h*cos A= h*cosarccos frac {16}{20} = h*frac 45 = 10$. And height will = $h*sin A=hsin arcsin frac {12}{20} = h*frac 35$.



      $h* frac 45 = 10$ so $h = 12.5$ and so the height is $12.5*frac 35 = 7.5$.



      And the area of the triangle is $frac 12*20*7.5 = 75$.






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        Folding the piece of paper, you get an isosceles triangle with 2 congruent right triangles on its sides. Each of these right triangles has side lengths $a, 12, h$, where $a$ is the shortest side and $h$ is the hypotenuse. Using the pythagorean theorem, and the fact that $a+h=16$, you get two equations in two variables, the other one being $h^2-a^2=(h-a)(h+a)=144$. This says that $h-a=9$, and so $h=12.5$ and $a=3.5$. The area of the overlap is the area of a 12x16 triangle minus a 3.5x12 triangle, which is in fact 75.






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          Referring to the Diagram from Aretino



          By the Pythagorean theorem the diagonal [AC] is 20 inches.

          Therefore 1/2 the diagonal [AH] is 10 inches.



          By similar triangles: [AEH] is similar to [ACB].
          $$frac{EH}{AH} = frac{BC}{AB} Rightarrow frac {h} {10} = frac {12}{16} $$
          Solve for height
          $$h=frac{120}{16}=7.5$$
          Solve for area of triangle [AEC]
          $$Area=frac 1 2 cdot Base cdot Height Rightarrow frac 1 2 cdot AC cdot EH Rightarrow frac 12 cdot 20 cdot 7.5 = 75 $$






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            The overlapping region is triangle $AEC$, with base $AC=20$ and altitude $EH$. To find $EH$, observe that $GH=BF=48/5$ and $DB'=AC-2CF=28/5$. By similitude one then gets $EH=15/2$.



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            The overlapping region is triangle $AEC$, with base $AC=20$ and altitude $EH$. To find $EH$, observe that $GH=BF=48/5$ and $DB'=AC-2CF=28/5$. By similitude one then gets $EH=15/2$.



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            The overlapping region is triangle $AEC$, with base $AC=20$ and altitude $EH$. To find $EH$, observe that $GH=BF=48/5$ and $DB'=AC-2CF=28/5$. By similitude one then gets $EH=15/2$.



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            The overlap is not exactly half the piece of paper, try folding a piece of paper along the diagonal and you'll see why. I can confirm the answer is indeed 75.






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              The overlap is not exactly half the piece of paper, try folding a piece of paper along the diagonal and you'll see why. I can confirm the answer is indeed 75.






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                The overlap is not exactly half the piece of paper, try folding a piece of paper along the diagonal and you'll see why. I can confirm the answer is indeed 75.






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                The overlap is not exactly half the piece of paper, try folding a piece of paper along the diagonal and you'll see why. I can confirm the answer is indeed 75.







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                    The area is (1/2)(20)(120/16) = 75 which is half the base times the hight. The hight is found by similar triangles.






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                      The area is (1/2)(20)(120/16) = 75 which is half the base times the hight. The hight is found by similar triangles.






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                        The area is (1/2)(20)(120/16) = 75 which is half the base times the hight. The hight is found by similar triangles.






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                        The area is (1/2)(20)(120/16) = 75 which is half the base times the hight. The hight is found by similar triangles.







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                            The diagonal is $20$ inches long. (Pythagorean Theorem).



                            The angles well be $A= arcsin frac {12}{20}=arccos frac {16}{20}$ and $B= arcsin frac {16}{20}=arccos frac {12}{20}$ with $A < B$ and $A + B = 90^circ$. (Basic trig definitions. Draw a picture to verify.)



                            ![enter image description here



                            The resulting shape will be an isosceles triangle with a base of $20$ and two base angles of $A$. This cuts in half into two congruent right triangles.



                            The proportions of one of these right triangles is Hypotenuse = $h$. Base = $h*cos A= h*cosarccos frac {16}{20} = h*frac 45 = 10$. And height will = $h*sin A=hsin arcsin frac {12}{20} = h*frac 35$.



                            $h* frac 45 = 10$ so $h = 12.5$ and so the height is $12.5*frac 35 = 7.5$.



                            And the area of the triangle is $frac 12*20*7.5 = 75$.






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                              The diagonal is $20$ inches long. (Pythagorean Theorem).



                              The angles well be $A= arcsin frac {12}{20}=arccos frac {16}{20}$ and $B= arcsin frac {16}{20}=arccos frac {12}{20}$ with $A < B$ and $A + B = 90^circ$. (Basic trig definitions. Draw a picture to verify.)



                              ![enter image description here



                              The resulting shape will be an isosceles triangle with a base of $20$ and two base angles of $A$. This cuts in half into two congruent right triangles.



                              The proportions of one of these right triangles is Hypotenuse = $h$. Base = $h*cos A= h*cosarccos frac {16}{20} = h*frac 45 = 10$. And height will = $h*sin A=hsin arcsin frac {12}{20} = h*frac 35$.



                              $h* frac 45 = 10$ so $h = 12.5$ and so the height is $12.5*frac 35 = 7.5$.



                              And the area of the triangle is $frac 12*20*7.5 = 75$.






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                                The diagonal is $20$ inches long. (Pythagorean Theorem).



                                The angles well be $A= arcsin frac {12}{20}=arccos frac {16}{20}$ and $B= arcsin frac {16}{20}=arccos frac {12}{20}$ with $A < B$ and $A + B = 90^circ$. (Basic trig definitions. Draw a picture to verify.)



                                ![enter image description here



                                The resulting shape will be an isosceles triangle with a base of $20$ and two base angles of $A$. This cuts in half into two congruent right triangles.



                                The proportions of one of these right triangles is Hypotenuse = $h$. Base = $h*cos A= h*cosarccos frac {16}{20} = h*frac 45 = 10$. And height will = $h*sin A=hsin arcsin frac {12}{20} = h*frac 35$.



                                $h* frac 45 = 10$ so $h = 12.5$ and so the height is $12.5*frac 35 = 7.5$.



                                And the area of the triangle is $frac 12*20*7.5 = 75$.






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                                The diagonal is $20$ inches long. (Pythagorean Theorem).



                                The angles well be $A= arcsin frac {12}{20}=arccos frac {16}{20}$ and $B= arcsin frac {16}{20}=arccos frac {12}{20}$ with $A < B$ and $A + B = 90^circ$. (Basic trig definitions. Draw a picture to verify.)



                                ![enter image description here



                                The resulting shape will be an isosceles triangle with a base of $20$ and two base angles of $A$. This cuts in half into two congruent right triangles.



                                The proportions of one of these right triangles is Hypotenuse = $h$. Base = $h*cos A= h*cosarccos frac {16}{20} = h*frac 45 = 10$. And height will = $h*sin A=hsin arcsin frac {12}{20} = h*frac 35$.



                                $h* frac 45 = 10$ so $h = 12.5$ and so the height is $12.5*frac 35 = 7.5$.



                                And the area of the triangle is $frac 12*20*7.5 = 75$.







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                                    Folding the piece of paper, you get an isosceles triangle with 2 congruent right triangles on its sides. Each of these right triangles has side lengths $a, 12, h$, where $a$ is the shortest side and $h$ is the hypotenuse. Using the pythagorean theorem, and the fact that $a+h=16$, you get two equations in two variables, the other one being $h^2-a^2=(h-a)(h+a)=144$. This says that $h-a=9$, and so $h=12.5$ and $a=3.5$. The area of the overlap is the area of a 12x16 triangle minus a 3.5x12 triangle, which is in fact 75.






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                                      Folding the piece of paper, you get an isosceles triangle with 2 congruent right triangles on its sides. Each of these right triangles has side lengths $a, 12, h$, where $a$ is the shortest side and $h$ is the hypotenuse. Using the pythagorean theorem, and the fact that $a+h=16$, you get two equations in two variables, the other one being $h^2-a^2=(h-a)(h+a)=144$. This says that $h-a=9$, and so $h=12.5$ and $a=3.5$. The area of the overlap is the area of a 12x16 triangle minus a 3.5x12 triangle, which is in fact 75.






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                                        Folding the piece of paper, you get an isosceles triangle with 2 congruent right triangles on its sides. Each of these right triangles has side lengths $a, 12, h$, where $a$ is the shortest side and $h$ is the hypotenuse. Using the pythagorean theorem, and the fact that $a+h=16$, you get two equations in two variables, the other one being $h^2-a^2=(h-a)(h+a)=144$. This says that $h-a=9$, and so $h=12.5$ and $a=3.5$. The area of the overlap is the area of a 12x16 triangle minus a 3.5x12 triangle, which is in fact 75.






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                                        Folding the piece of paper, you get an isosceles triangle with 2 congruent right triangles on its sides. Each of these right triangles has side lengths $a, 12, h$, where $a$ is the shortest side and $h$ is the hypotenuse. Using the pythagorean theorem, and the fact that $a+h=16$, you get two equations in two variables, the other one being $h^2-a^2=(h-a)(h+a)=144$. This says that $h-a=9$, and so $h=12.5$ and $a=3.5$. The area of the overlap is the area of a 12x16 triangle minus a 3.5x12 triangle, which is in fact 75.







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                                            Referring to the Diagram from Aretino



                                            By the Pythagorean theorem the diagonal [AC] is 20 inches.

                                            Therefore 1/2 the diagonal [AH] is 10 inches.



                                            By similar triangles: [AEH] is similar to [ACB].
                                            $$frac{EH}{AH} = frac{BC}{AB} Rightarrow frac {h} {10} = frac {12}{16} $$
                                            Solve for height
                                            $$h=frac{120}{16}=7.5$$
                                            Solve for area of triangle [AEC]
                                            $$Area=frac 1 2 cdot Base cdot Height Rightarrow frac 1 2 cdot AC cdot EH Rightarrow frac 12 cdot 20 cdot 7.5 = 75 $$






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                                              Referring to the Diagram from Aretino



                                              By the Pythagorean theorem the diagonal [AC] is 20 inches.

                                              Therefore 1/2 the diagonal [AH] is 10 inches.



                                              By similar triangles: [AEH] is similar to [ACB].
                                              $$frac{EH}{AH} = frac{BC}{AB} Rightarrow frac {h} {10} = frac {12}{16} $$
                                              Solve for height
                                              $$h=frac{120}{16}=7.5$$
                                              Solve for area of triangle [AEC]
                                              $$Area=frac 1 2 cdot Base cdot Height Rightarrow frac 1 2 cdot AC cdot EH Rightarrow frac 12 cdot 20 cdot 7.5 = 75 $$






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                                                Referring to the Diagram from Aretino



                                                By the Pythagorean theorem the diagonal [AC] is 20 inches.

                                                Therefore 1/2 the diagonal [AH] is 10 inches.



                                                By similar triangles: [AEH] is similar to [ACB].
                                                $$frac{EH}{AH} = frac{BC}{AB} Rightarrow frac {h} {10} = frac {12}{16} $$
                                                Solve for height
                                                $$h=frac{120}{16}=7.5$$
                                                Solve for area of triangle [AEC]
                                                $$Area=frac 1 2 cdot Base cdot Height Rightarrow frac 1 2 cdot AC cdot EH Rightarrow frac 12 cdot 20 cdot 7.5 = 75 $$






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                                                Referring to the Diagram from Aretino



                                                By the Pythagorean theorem the diagonal [AC] is 20 inches.

                                                Therefore 1/2 the diagonal [AH] is 10 inches.



                                                By similar triangles: [AEH] is similar to [ACB].
                                                $$frac{EH}{AH} = frac{BC}{AB} Rightarrow frac {h} {10} = frac {12}{16} $$
                                                Solve for height
                                                $$h=frac{120}{16}=7.5$$
                                                Solve for area of triangle [AEC]
                                                $$Area=frac 1 2 cdot Base cdot Height Rightarrow frac 1 2 cdot AC cdot EH Rightarrow frac 12 cdot 20 cdot 7.5 = 75 $$







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