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I am working on texts from the composer Telemann and have come across an eighteenth-century text about the writer, Fabricius. In a single paragraph both GOttes and GOTTES appear. I take it that both would be translated as 'God's' but do now understand the differences in orthography and the implications for translation. I'd be grateful for help and advice.



Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]




Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen,
die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die
verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken,
damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES
offenbaret werde?




The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.



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I am working on texts from the composer Telemann and have come across an eighteenth-century text about the writer, Fabricius. In a single paragraph both GOttes and GOTTES appear. I take it that both would be translated as 'God's' but do now understand the differences in orthography and the implications for translation. I'd be grateful for help and advice.



Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]




Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen,
die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die
verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken,
damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES
offenbaret werde?




The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.



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I am working on texts from the composer Telemann and have come across an eighteenth-century text about the writer, Fabricius. In a single paragraph both GOttes and GOTTES appear. I take it that both would be translated as 'God's' but do now understand the differences in orthography and the implications for translation. I'd be grateful for help and advice.



Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]




Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen,
die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die
verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken,
damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES
offenbaret werde?




The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.



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I am working on texts from the composer Telemann and have come across an eighteenth-century text about the writer, Fabricius. In a single paragraph both GOttes and GOTTES appear. I take it that both would be translated as 'God's' but do now understand the differences in orthography and the implications for translation. I'd be grateful for help and advice.



Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]




Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen,
die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die
verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken,
damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES
offenbaret werde?




The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.



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  • This is actually a question about the possible nuances in German.

    – Andrew Leach
    4 hours ago






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    You should provide a picture or link to your text. It's nearly impossible to answer your question without a context. It will be just guessing.

    – mtwde
    2 hours ago



















  • This is actually a question about the possible nuances in German.

    – Andrew Leach
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    You should provide a picture or link to your text. It's nearly impossible to answer your question without a context. It will be just guessing.

    – mtwde
    2 hours ago

















This is actually a question about the possible nuances in German.

– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago





This is actually a question about the possible nuances in German.

– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago




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You should provide a picture or link to your text. It's nearly impossible to answer your question without a context. It will be just guessing.

– mtwde
2 hours ago





You should provide a picture or link to your text. It's nearly impossible to answer your question without a context. It will be just guessing.

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There was a habit of writing the name of god with not one but more capital letters in order to honour him/her/it particularly and distinguish the spelling from how ordinary people are spelled. Therefore GOtt, or, with even more distinction (I suppose here): GOTT.



I have seen this also in English.



There are no implications for translation. It is simply, as you correctly say, God's. (Note the capital letter in English.)






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  • As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

    – LangLangC
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  • @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

    – Christian Geiselmann
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  • Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

    – LangLangC
    4 hours ago













  • @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

    – Christian Geiselmann
    4 hours ago








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    Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

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I am grateful for the quick and helpful suggestions and ideas. Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]



Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen, die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken, damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES offenbaret werde?



My translation:



To whom is it unknown that Herr D. Fabricius took the best means of alerting men to the works of God, and of discovering the hidden beauties of their creatures with the intention of revealing the goodness, wisdom, omnipotence, and majesty of God?



The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.






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    actually the differences in tyesetting can also give a hint on how one is suppose to intonate the different occurences of the word Gottes in the paragraph. the last one shall be emphasized





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      There was a habit of writing the name of god with not one but more capital letters in order to honour him/her/it particularly and distinguish the spelling from how ordinary people are spelled. Therefore GOtt, or, with even more distinction (I suppose here): GOTT.



      I have seen this also in English.



      There are no implications for translation. It is simply, as you correctly say, God's. (Note the capital letter in English.)






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      • As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago











      • @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago













      • Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago













      • @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago








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        Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

        – Christian Geiselmann
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      There was a habit of writing the name of god with not one but more capital letters in order to honour him/her/it particularly and distinguish the spelling from how ordinary people are spelled. Therefore GOtt, or, with even more distinction (I suppose here): GOTT.



      I have seen this also in English.



      There are no implications for translation. It is simply, as you correctly say, God's. (Note the capital letter in English.)






      share|improve this answer


























      • As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago











      • @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago













      • Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago













      • @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago








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        Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

        – Christian Geiselmann
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      There was a habit of writing the name of god with not one but more capital letters in order to honour him/her/it particularly and distinguish the spelling from how ordinary people are spelled. Therefore GOtt, or, with even more distinction (I suppose here): GOTT.



      I have seen this also in English.



      There are no implications for translation. It is simply, as you correctly say, God's. (Note the capital letter in English.)






      share|improve this answer















      There was a habit of writing the name of god with not one but more capital letters in order to honour him/her/it particularly and distinguish the spelling from how ordinary people are spelled. Therefore GOtt, or, with even more distinction (I suppose here): GOTT.



      I have seen this also in English.



      There are no implications for translation. It is simply, as you correctly say, God's. (Note the capital letter in English.)







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      • As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago











      • @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago













      • Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago













      • @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago








      • 1





        Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago



















      • As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago











      • @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago













      • Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

        – LangLangC
        4 hours ago













      • @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago








      • 1





        Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

        – Christian Geiselmann
        4 hours ago

















      As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

      – LangLangC
      4 hours ago





      As for most writers there would be "only one god", why are these two variants used in one para? How can all-caps be even more distinctive?

      – LangLangC
      4 hours ago













      @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago







      @LangLangC Like Soviet generals: the more brass stuck to the chest, the more honour.

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago















      Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

      – LangLangC
      4 hours ago







      Sure, but why not just stick to max-brass Breschnew-style (GOTTES), in the same para?

      – LangLangC
      4 hours ago















      @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago







      @LangLangC Scarcity of capital letters in old lead typesetting typecases?

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago






      1




      1





      Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago





      Indeed, we should honour the COntext.

      – Christian Geiselmann
      4 hours ago











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      I am grateful for the quick and helpful suggestions and ideas. Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]



      Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen, die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken, damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES offenbaret werde?



      My translation:



      To whom is it unknown that Herr D. Fabricius took the best means of alerting men to the works of God, and of discovering the hidden beauties of their creatures with the intention of revealing the goodness, wisdom, omnipotence, and majesty of God?



      The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.






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        I am grateful for the quick and helpful suggestions and ideas. Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]



        Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen, die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken, damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES offenbaret werde?



        My translation:



        To whom is it unknown that Herr D. Fabricius took the best means of alerting men to the works of God, and of discovering the hidden beauties of their creatures with the intention of revealing the goodness, wisdom, omnipotence, and majesty of God?



        The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.






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          I am grateful for the quick and helpful suggestions and ideas. Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]



          Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen, die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken, damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES offenbaret werde?



          My translation:



          To whom is it unknown that Herr D. Fabricius took the best means of alerting men to the works of God, and of discovering the hidden beauties of their creatures with the intention of revealing the goodness, wisdom, omnipotence, and majesty of God?



          The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.






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          I am grateful for the quick and helpful suggestions and ideas. Below is an extract from a longer paragraph containing both examples: [GOttes and GOTTES]



          Wem ist unbekannt, daß Herr D. Fabricius das beste Mittel ergriffen, die Menschen auf die Wercke GOttes aufmercksam zu machen, und die verborgenen Schönheiten derer Geschöpfe in der Absicht zu entdecken, damit zugleich die Güte, Weisheit, Allmacht und Majestät GOTTES offenbaret werde?



          My translation:



          To whom is it unknown that Herr D. Fabricius took the best means of alerting men to the works of God, and of discovering the hidden beauties of their creatures with the intention of revealing the goodness, wisdom, omnipotence, and majesty of God?



          The quotation is from the meticulously edited book* New Mattheson Studies George J. Buelow and Hans Joachim Marx, Cambridge University Press,(1983, 2006) p. 106.







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