Volume of hyperbola revolved about the y -axis
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I'm trying to calculate the volume of the solid formed by revolving the hyperbola ${x^2} - {y^2} = 1$ bounded by $x=1$ and $x=3$ about the y axis, however I do not know if I'm going about this the right way using cylindrical shells.
Using volume of a solid of revolution with cylindrical-shell method where the radius is ${x}$ and the height is ${2sqrt{x^2 - 1}}$, I got the integral:
$$
begin{eqnarray}
V &=& 2 pi int_1^{3} [x (2sqrt{x^2 - 1})] , textrm{d}x \
&=& 4 pi left[ frac{(x^2 - 1)^{3/2}}{3} right]_1^{3} \
&=& frac{32sqrt{8} pi}{3} \
end{eqnarray}
$$
I would like to know if this is the correct way to solve this problem using cylindrical shells and if there are any other ways to solve the this problem.
calculus integration volume
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I'm trying to calculate the volume of the solid formed by revolving the hyperbola ${x^2} - {y^2} = 1$ bounded by $x=1$ and $x=3$ about the y axis, however I do not know if I'm going about this the right way using cylindrical shells.
Using volume of a solid of revolution with cylindrical-shell method where the radius is ${x}$ and the height is ${2sqrt{x^2 - 1}}$, I got the integral:
$$
begin{eqnarray}
V &=& 2 pi int_1^{3} [x (2sqrt{x^2 - 1})] , textrm{d}x \
&=& 4 pi left[ frac{(x^2 - 1)^{3/2}}{3} right]_1^{3} \
&=& frac{32sqrt{8} pi}{3} \
end{eqnarray}
$$
I would like to know if this is the correct way to solve this problem using cylindrical shells and if there are any other ways to solve the this problem.
calculus integration volume
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do you have bounds on the $x$ values?
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– Andres Mejia
9 hours ago
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Yes, sorry, the bounds on the x values are 1 and 3
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– Ludwig
9 hours ago
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I'm trying to calculate the volume of the solid formed by revolving the hyperbola ${x^2} - {y^2} = 1$ bounded by $x=1$ and $x=3$ about the y axis, however I do not know if I'm going about this the right way using cylindrical shells.
Using volume of a solid of revolution with cylindrical-shell method where the radius is ${x}$ and the height is ${2sqrt{x^2 - 1}}$, I got the integral:
$$
begin{eqnarray}
V &=& 2 pi int_1^{3} [x (2sqrt{x^2 - 1})] , textrm{d}x \
&=& 4 pi left[ frac{(x^2 - 1)^{3/2}}{3} right]_1^{3} \
&=& frac{32sqrt{8} pi}{3} \
end{eqnarray}
$$
I would like to know if this is the correct way to solve this problem using cylindrical shells and if there are any other ways to solve the this problem.
calculus integration volume
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I'm trying to calculate the volume of the solid formed by revolving the hyperbola ${x^2} - {y^2} = 1$ bounded by $x=1$ and $x=3$ about the y axis, however I do not know if I'm going about this the right way using cylindrical shells.
Using volume of a solid of revolution with cylindrical-shell method where the radius is ${x}$ and the height is ${2sqrt{x^2 - 1}}$, I got the integral:
$$
begin{eqnarray}
V &=& 2 pi int_1^{3} [x (2sqrt{x^2 - 1})] , textrm{d}x \
&=& 4 pi left[ frac{(x^2 - 1)^{3/2}}{3} right]_1^{3} \
&=& frac{32sqrt{8} pi}{3} \
end{eqnarray}
$$
I would like to know if this is the correct way to solve this problem using cylindrical shells and if there are any other ways to solve the this problem.
calculus integration volume
calculus integration volume
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do you have bounds on the $x$ values?
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– Andres Mejia
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Yes, sorry, the bounds on the x values are 1 and 3
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– Ludwig
9 hours ago
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do you have bounds on the $x$ values?
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– Andres Mejia
9 hours ago
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Yes, sorry, the bounds on the x values are 1 and 3
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– Ludwig
9 hours ago
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do you have bounds on the $x$ values?
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– Andres Mejia
9 hours ago
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do you have bounds on the $x$ values?
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– Andres Mejia
9 hours ago
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Yes, sorry, the bounds on the x values are 1 and 3
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– Ludwig
9 hours ago
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Yes, sorry, the bounds on the x values are 1 and 3
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Your solution is correct.
Method 2: Using double integrals.
Namely, by rotating the graph around the $y$-axis, we can define $y$ as a two-variable function $y(x,z)=sqrt{x^2+z^2-1}$, for $yge 0$. Next, define a region
$$D={(x,z) | 1le x^2+z^2 le 9}$$
To get the volume of the upper body, we evaluate the integral
$$iintlimits_D y(x,z) text dx text dz = iintlimits_D sqrt{x^2+z^2-1} text dx text dz$$
and to get the total volume, we just multiply this by two. The above integral can be easily found using polar coordinates, and we have:
$$V = 2int_0^{2pi}int_1^3 rsqrt{r^2-1} text dr text dtheta$$
Method 3: The washer method.
Consider a horizontal washer (ring) with a thickness of $text dy$, at a height $y$ from the $x$-axis. Its inner radius is $r_1 = sqrt{1+y^2}$ and its outer radius is $r_2 = 3$. The volume of the washer is $text dV = (r_2^2-r_1^2)pi$. To get the total volume, integrate the volumes of all such washers:
$$V=intlimits_{-2sqrt2}^{2sqrt2} pi(9-y^2-1) text dy$$
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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The way you set up the integral seems to be correct (that's the exact same way I would set it up), but I think you calculated it slightly wrong. You forgot that you also have the lower part of the hyperbola. So, the volume should be doubled.
$$
V=2cdot 2piint_{1}^{3}xsqrt{x^2-1},dx=
frac{4}{2}piint_{1}^{3}sqrt{x^2-1}frac{d}{dx}(x^2-1),dx=\
2piint_{0}^{8}sqrt{u},du=2pifrac{2sqrt{u^3}}{3}bigg|_{0}^{8}=
frac{4}{3}pileft(sqrt{8^3}-sqrt{0}right)=frac{64sqrt{2}pi}{3}
$$
Wolfram Alpha check
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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8 hours ago
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Your solution is correct.
Method 2: Using double integrals.
Namely, by rotating the graph around the $y$-axis, we can define $y$ as a two-variable function $y(x,z)=sqrt{x^2+z^2-1}$, for $yge 0$. Next, define a region
$$D={(x,z) | 1le x^2+z^2 le 9}$$
To get the volume of the upper body, we evaluate the integral
$$iintlimits_D y(x,z) text dx text dz = iintlimits_D sqrt{x^2+z^2-1} text dx text dz$$
and to get the total volume, we just multiply this by two. The above integral can be easily found using polar coordinates, and we have:
$$V = 2int_0^{2pi}int_1^3 rsqrt{r^2-1} text dr text dtheta$$
Method 3: The washer method.
Consider a horizontal washer (ring) with a thickness of $text dy$, at a height $y$ from the $x$-axis. Its inner radius is $r_1 = sqrt{1+y^2}$ and its outer radius is $r_2 = 3$. The volume of the washer is $text dV = (r_2^2-r_1^2)pi$. To get the total volume, integrate the volumes of all such washers:
$$V=intlimits_{-2sqrt2}^{2sqrt2} pi(9-y^2-1) text dy$$
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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Your solution is correct.
Method 2: Using double integrals.
Namely, by rotating the graph around the $y$-axis, we can define $y$ as a two-variable function $y(x,z)=sqrt{x^2+z^2-1}$, for $yge 0$. Next, define a region
$$D={(x,z) | 1le x^2+z^2 le 9}$$
To get the volume of the upper body, we evaluate the integral
$$iintlimits_D y(x,z) text dx text dz = iintlimits_D sqrt{x^2+z^2-1} text dx text dz$$
and to get the total volume, we just multiply this by two. The above integral can be easily found using polar coordinates, and we have:
$$V = 2int_0^{2pi}int_1^3 rsqrt{r^2-1} text dr text dtheta$$
Method 3: The washer method.
Consider a horizontal washer (ring) with a thickness of $text dy$, at a height $y$ from the $x$-axis. Its inner radius is $r_1 = sqrt{1+y^2}$ and its outer radius is $r_2 = 3$. The volume of the washer is $text dV = (r_2^2-r_1^2)pi$. To get the total volume, integrate the volumes of all such washers:
$$V=intlimits_{-2sqrt2}^{2sqrt2} pi(9-y^2-1) text dy$$
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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Your solution is correct.
Method 2: Using double integrals.
Namely, by rotating the graph around the $y$-axis, we can define $y$ as a two-variable function $y(x,z)=sqrt{x^2+z^2-1}$, for $yge 0$. Next, define a region
$$D={(x,z) | 1le x^2+z^2 le 9}$$
To get the volume of the upper body, we evaluate the integral
$$iintlimits_D y(x,z) text dx text dz = iintlimits_D sqrt{x^2+z^2-1} text dx text dz$$
and to get the total volume, we just multiply this by two. The above integral can be easily found using polar coordinates, and we have:
$$V = 2int_0^{2pi}int_1^3 rsqrt{r^2-1} text dr text dtheta$$
Method 3: The washer method.
Consider a horizontal washer (ring) with a thickness of $text dy$, at a height $y$ from the $x$-axis. Its inner radius is $r_1 = sqrt{1+y^2}$ and its outer radius is $r_2 = 3$. The volume of the washer is $text dV = (r_2^2-r_1^2)pi$. To get the total volume, integrate the volumes of all such washers:
$$V=intlimits_{-2sqrt2}^{2sqrt2} pi(9-y^2-1) text dy$$
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Your solution is correct.
Method 2: Using double integrals.
Namely, by rotating the graph around the $y$-axis, we can define $y$ as a two-variable function $y(x,z)=sqrt{x^2+z^2-1}$, for $yge 0$. Next, define a region
$$D={(x,z) | 1le x^2+z^2 le 9}$$
To get the volume of the upper body, we evaluate the integral
$$iintlimits_D y(x,z) text dx text dz = iintlimits_D sqrt{x^2+z^2-1} text dx text dz$$
and to get the total volume, we just multiply this by two. The above integral can be easily found using polar coordinates, and we have:
$$V = 2int_0^{2pi}int_1^3 rsqrt{r^2-1} text dr text dtheta$$
Method 3: The washer method.
Consider a horizontal washer (ring) with a thickness of $text dy$, at a height $y$ from the $x$-axis. Its inner radius is $r_1 = sqrt{1+y^2}$ and its outer radius is $r_2 = 3$. The volume of the washer is $text dV = (r_2^2-r_1^2)pi$. To get the total volume, integrate the volumes of all such washers:
$$V=intlimits_{-2sqrt2}^{2sqrt2} pi(9-y^2-1) text dy$$
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answered 9 hours ago
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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But when using cylindrical shells to integrate don't you need to take the integral of $2 pi x f(x)$ where $x$ is the radius of the incremental cylinder and $f(x)$ is the height of that incremental cylinder.
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– Ludwig
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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@Ludwig I apologize, I have misread your question. I have updated my answer.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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The way you set up the integral seems to be correct (that's the exact same way I would set it up), but I think you calculated it slightly wrong. You forgot that you also have the lower part of the hyperbola. So, the volume should be doubled.
$$
V=2cdot 2piint_{1}^{3}xsqrt{x^2-1},dx=
frac{4}{2}piint_{1}^{3}sqrt{x^2-1}frac{d}{dx}(x^2-1),dx=\
2piint_{0}^{8}sqrt{u},du=2pifrac{2sqrt{u^3}}{3}bigg|_{0}^{8}=
frac{4}{3}pileft(sqrt{8^3}-sqrt{0}right)=frac{64sqrt{2}pi}{3}
$$
Wolfram Alpha check
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
1
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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The way you set up the integral seems to be correct (that's the exact same way I would set it up), but I think you calculated it slightly wrong. You forgot that you also have the lower part of the hyperbola. So, the volume should be doubled.
$$
V=2cdot 2piint_{1}^{3}xsqrt{x^2-1},dx=
frac{4}{2}piint_{1}^{3}sqrt{x^2-1}frac{d}{dx}(x^2-1),dx=\
2piint_{0}^{8}sqrt{u},du=2pifrac{2sqrt{u^3}}{3}bigg|_{0}^{8}=
frac{4}{3}pileft(sqrt{8^3}-sqrt{0}right)=frac{64sqrt{2}pi}{3}
$$
Wolfram Alpha check
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
1
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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The way you set up the integral seems to be correct (that's the exact same way I would set it up), but I think you calculated it slightly wrong. You forgot that you also have the lower part of the hyperbola. So, the volume should be doubled.
$$
V=2cdot 2piint_{1}^{3}xsqrt{x^2-1},dx=
frac{4}{2}piint_{1}^{3}sqrt{x^2-1}frac{d}{dx}(x^2-1),dx=\
2piint_{0}^{8}sqrt{u},du=2pifrac{2sqrt{u^3}}{3}bigg|_{0}^{8}=
frac{4}{3}pileft(sqrt{8^3}-sqrt{0}right)=frac{64sqrt{2}pi}{3}
$$
Wolfram Alpha check
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The way you set up the integral seems to be correct (that's the exact same way I would set it up), but I think you calculated it slightly wrong. You forgot that you also have the lower part of the hyperbola. So, the volume should be doubled.
$$
V=2cdot 2piint_{1}^{3}xsqrt{x^2-1},dx=
frac{4}{2}piint_{1}^{3}sqrt{x^2-1}frac{d}{dx}(x^2-1),dx=\
2piint_{0}^{8}sqrt{u},du=2pifrac{2sqrt{u^3}}{3}bigg|_{0}^{8}=
frac{4}{3}pileft(sqrt{8^3}-sqrt{0}right)=frac{64sqrt{2}pi}{3}
$$
Wolfram Alpha check
answered 8 hours ago
Michael RybkinMichael Rybkin
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
add a comment |
1
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
1
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
1
1
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
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The OP's solution is equivalent, since $sqrt8 =2sqrt2$.
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– Haris Gusic
8 hours ago
1
1
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
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I think the OP lost the $1/2$ somewhere that they should have gotten from doing the u-substitution.
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– Michael Rybkin
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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