Is “take a leak” considered only masculine or is it okay if women use it too?
up vote
4
down vote
favorite
And if it can also be used by women, I still feel vulgar using it.
idioms slang phrase-usage feminine
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
favorite
And if it can also be used by women, I still feel vulgar using it.
idioms slang phrase-usage feminine
1
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
3
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
1
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
5
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
1
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
favorite
up vote
4
down vote
favorite
And if it can also be used by women, I still feel vulgar using it.
idioms slang phrase-usage feminine
And if it can also be used by women, I still feel vulgar using it.
idioms slang phrase-usage feminine
idioms slang phrase-usage feminine
asked Mar 3 '15 at 12:43
user112422
2612
2612
1
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
3
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
1
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
5
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
1
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00
add a comment |
1
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
3
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
1
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
5
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
1
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00
1
1
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
3
3
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
1
1
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
5
5
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
1
1
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00
add a comment |
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
Using the phrase is unladylike.
Semantically, it means the same thing (regardless of gender); but historically is only used by males due to its vulgar undertones.
Therefore, excluding the affiliated taboo, there's nothing wrong with a woman using the phrase.
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Are women allowed to "take a leak" ?
take a leak tv: to urinate. (Crude. Often objectionable. Usually in reference to a male. Leak is the mildest and piss is the strongest.) "I gotta go take a leak. Back in a minute."; "We stopped at a rest area so old Harry could take a piss." See, the Free Dictionary, Idioms and Phrases “take a leak” definition from, McGraw-Hill's Dictionary of American Slang and Colloquial Expressions.
In comment I noted, with amusement: We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental. But, after returning to the page and noting the ‘state of play,’ I’ve decided to respond in answer-form.
The idiom may be considered “vulgar”, but I believe that can only be in a linguistic sense, as in definition 2, below. While the definition of the idiom in discussion, noted above, marks the expression as, “crude”, consider the alternatives, for either gender.
Men routinely employ this expression without self-consciousness or peer censure. Beyond, “Fellas, I got to go to the men’s room”, in my experience “take a leak” [manly and earthy] is more popular than, “excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, but I must urinate” [formal but effete] or “Dudes, I’ll be right back. I gotta take a piss”, [generally crude]; while, “Hey fellas, I gotta powder my nose”, is just completely off the table! [pejoratively effeminate].
For women, aka, the “fairer sex”, who are socialized to be linguistically (if not morally) prudish and self-censorious, the options are more tenuous. Beyond, “Excuse me, but I need to visit the ladies room” [formal] or “Be right back girls, I need to go to the bathroom” [minimally formal], we are left with, "Excuse me, but I must powder my nose” [if we happen to be socialites or Hollywood starlets].
I believe that the American culture (I cannot speak to other cultures), in general, has been pervaded by a native puritanical sensibility, wherein references to bodily functions are never socially acceptable and must be negotiated with euphemistic terminology, the more abstract, the less vulgar and acceptable.
Personally, among my family & friends (i.e., the people I love & who love me) such an expression is acceptable and not considered crude or vulgar. Among others, I tend to be more circumspect (i.e., I "tinkle.")
Vulgar adjective
1. marked by lack of taste, culture, delicacy, manners, etc: vulgar behaviour; vulgar language.
2. (Linguistics) (often capital; usually prenominal) denoting a form of a language, esp of Latin, current among common people, esp. at a period when the formal language is archaic and not in general spoken. see, Collins English Dictionary "vulgar"
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
My personal opinion is it's high time we stopped differentiating between male and female behaviour, and most certainly should drop the term 'ladylike'. Men are men and women are women, and I feel 100% free, as a woman, to use any expression I care to when needing to empty my bladder - the only constraint is whether I'm likely to offend the people around me by using some of the coarser expressions, and there are many that I have used whenever I felt like it (within the aforementioned constraint), including the usually-considered-masculine 'slash'. And I'd add I definitely sweat...
If you don't feel comfortable using such an expression, then refrain - it's all down to what you as a person (rather than female) feel comfortable with. If it helps, I give you full permission to say it!
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
I know a woman that routinely says “gotta take a piss” or gotta take a leak. It’s unladylike but it seems kinda funny for a woman to say. Maybe she dares to be different and expresses herself a little different.
New contributor
add a comment |
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
Using the phrase is unladylike.
Semantically, it means the same thing (regardless of gender); but historically is only used by males due to its vulgar undertones.
Therefore, excluding the affiliated taboo, there's nothing wrong with a woman using the phrase.
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
Using the phrase is unladylike.
Semantically, it means the same thing (regardless of gender); but historically is only used by males due to its vulgar undertones.
Therefore, excluding the affiliated taboo, there's nothing wrong with a woman using the phrase.
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Using the phrase is unladylike.
Semantically, it means the same thing (regardless of gender); but historically is only used by males due to its vulgar undertones.
Therefore, excluding the affiliated taboo, there's nothing wrong with a woman using the phrase.
Using the phrase is unladylike.
Semantically, it means the same thing (regardless of gender); but historically is only used by males due to its vulgar undertones.
Therefore, excluding the affiliated taboo, there's nothing wrong with a woman using the phrase.
answered Mar 3 '15 at 15:27
Othya
1,12821023
1,12821023
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
add a comment |
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
And the taboo applies somewhat to men as well, since it's fairly vulgar for them to say as well. Nobody, regardless of gender, would want to use the phrase in a professional setting, for example.
– Nicole
Mar 3 '15 at 15:33
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
Yeah, the proper term is "urgent haircut".
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 15:53
1
1
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
It could be used by or about a woman to make a point. It seems more taboo for women to talk about urinating than for men, so a woman using crass slang to describe her act of urinating breaks two taboos.
– shadowtalker
Mar 4 '15 at 14:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@Nicole In my experience, this is the standard way for a man to say that they need to use the restroom. I use it all the time, whether I'm at the office, at home, or out in public. I don't think I've ever had anyone comment on the 'vulgarity' of the phrase or take any kind of exception to it.
– DCShannon
Mar 4 '15 at 19:44
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
@DCShannon In the office where I work, I've never heard anyone phrase it any other way than "needing to use the restroom."
– Nicole
Mar 4 '15 at 19:58
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Are women allowed to "take a leak" ?
take a leak tv: to urinate. (Crude. Often objectionable. Usually in reference to a male. Leak is the mildest and piss is the strongest.) "I gotta go take a leak. Back in a minute."; "We stopped at a rest area so old Harry could take a piss." See, the Free Dictionary, Idioms and Phrases “take a leak” definition from, McGraw-Hill's Dictionary of American Slang and Colloquial Expressions.
In comment I noted, with amusement: We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental. But, after returning to the page and noting the ‘state of play,’ I’ve decided to respond in answer-form.
The idiom may be considered “vulgar”, but I believe that can only be in a linguistic sense, as in definition 2, below. While the definition of the idiom in discussion, noted above, marks the expression as, “crude”, consider the alternatives, for either gender.
Men routinely employ this expression without self-consciousness or peer censure. Beyond, “Fellas, I got to go to the men’s room”, in my experience “take a leak” [manly and earthy] is more popular than, “excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, but I must urinate” [formal but effete] or “Dudes, I’ll be right back. I gotta take a piss”, [generally crude]; while, “Hey fellas, I gotta powder my nose”, is just completely off the table! [pejoratively effeminate].
For women, aka, the “fairer sex”, who are socialized to be linguistically (if not morally) prudish and self-censorious, the options are more tenuous. Beyond, “Excuse me, but I need to visit the ladies room” [formal] or “Be right back girls, I need to go to the bathroom” [minimally formal], we are left with, "Excuse me, but I must powder my nose” [if we happen to be socialites or Hollywood starlets].
I believe that the American culture (I cannot speak to other cultures), in general, has been pervaded by a native puritanical sensibility, wherein references to bodily functions are never socially acceptable and must be negotiated with euphemistic terminology, the more abstract, the less vulgar and acceptable.
Personally, among my family & friends (i.e., the people I love & who love me) such an expression is acceptable and not considered crude or vulgar. Among others, I tend to be more circumspect (i.e., I "tinkle.")
Vulgar adjective
1. marked by lack of taste, culture, delicacy, manners, etc: vulgar behaviour; vulgar language.
2. (Linguistics) (often capital; usually prenominal) denoting a form of a language, esp of Latin, current among common people, esp. at a period when the formal language is archaic and not in general spoken. see, Collins English Dictionary "vulgar"
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Are women allowed to "take a leak" ?
take a leak tv: to urinate. (Crude. Often objectionable. Usually in reference to a male. Leak is the mildest and piss is the strongest.) "I gotta go take a leak. Back in a minute."; "We stopped at a rest area so old Harry could take a piss." See, the Free Dictionary, Idioms and Phrases “take a leak” definition from, McGraw-Hill's Dictionary of American Slang and Colloquial Expressions.
In comment I noted, with amusement: We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental. But, after returning to the page and noting the ‘state of play,’ I’ve decided to respond in answer-form.
The idiom may be considered “vulgar”, but I believe that can only be in a linguistic sense, as in definition 2, below. While the definition of the idiom in discussion, noted above, marks the expression as, “crude”, consider the alternatives, for either gender.
Men routinely employ this expression without self-consciousness or peer censure. Beyond, “Fellas, I got to go to the men’s room”, in my experience “take a leak” [manly and earthy] is more popular than, “excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, but I must urinate” [formal but effete] or “Dudes, I’ll be right back. I gotta take a piss”, [generally crude]; while, “Hey fellas, I gotta powder my nose”, is just completely off the table! [pejoratively effeminate].
For women, aka, the “fairer sex”, who are socialized to be linguistically (if not morally) prudish and self-censorious, the options are more tenuous. Beyond, “Excuse me, but I need to visit the ladies room” [formal] or “Be right back girls, I need to go to the bathroom” [minimally formal], we are left with, "Excuse me, but I must powder my nose” [if we happen to be socialites or Hollywood starlets].
I believe that the American culture (I cannot speak to other cultures), in general, has been pervaded by a native puritanical sensibility, wherein references to bodily functions are never socially acceptable and must be negotiated with euphemistic terminology, the more abstract, the less vulgar and acceptable.
Personally, among my family & friends (i.e., the people I love & who love me) such an expression is acceptable and not considered crude or vulgar. Among others, I tend to be more circumspect (i.e., I "tinkle.")
Vulgar adjective
1. marked by lack of taste, culture, delicacy, manners, etc: vulgar behaviour; vulgar language.
2. (Linguistics) (often capital; usually prenominal) denoting a form of a language, esp of Latin, current among common people, esp. at a period when the formal language is archaic and not in general spoken. see, Collins English Dictionary "vulgar"
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Are women allowed to "take a leak" ?
take a leak tv: to urinate. (Crude. Often objectionable. Usually in reference to a male. Leak is the mildest and piss is the strongest.) "I gotta go take a leak. Back in a minute."; "We stopped at a rest area so old Harry could take a piss." See, the Free Dictionary, Idioms and Phrases “take a leak” definition from, McGraw-Hill's Dictionary of American Slang and Colloquial Expressions.
In comment I noted, with amusement: We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental. But, after returning to the page and noting the ‘state of play,’ I’ve decided to respond in answer-form.
The idiom may be considered “vulgar”, but I believe that can only be in a linguistic sense, as in definition 2, below. While the definition of the idiom in discussion, noted above, marks the expression as, “crude”, consider the alternatives, for either gender.
Men routinely employ this expression without self-consciousness or peer censure. Beyond, “Fellas, I got to go to the men’s room”, in my experience “take a leak” [manly and earthy] is more popular than, “excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, but I must urinate” [formal but effete] or “Dudes, I’ll be right back. I gotta take a piss”, [generally crude]; while, “Hey fellas, I gotta powder my nose”, is just completely off the table! [pejoratively effeminate].
For women, aka, the “fairer sex”, who are socialized to be linguistically (if not morally) prudish and self-censorious, the options are more tenuous. Beyond, “Excuse me, but I need to visit the ladies room” [formal] or “Be right back girls, I need to go to the bathroom” [minimally formal], we are left with, "Excuse me, but I must powder my nose” [if we happen to be socialites or Hollywood starlets].
I believe that the American culture (I cannot speak to other cultures), in general, has been pervaded by a native puritanical sensibility, wherein references to bodily functions are never socially acceptable and must be negotiated with euphemistic terminology, the more abstract, the less vulgar and acceptable.
Personally, among my family & friends (i.e., the people I love & who love me) such an expression is acceptable and not considered crude or vulgar. Among others, I tend to be more circumspect (i.e., I "tinkle.")
Vulgar adjective
1. marked by lack of taste, culture, delicacy, manners, etc: vulgar behaviour; vulgar language.
2. (Linguistics) (often capital; usually prenominal) denoting a form of a language, esp of Latin, current among common people, esp. at a period when the formal language is archaic and not in general spoken. see, Collins English Dictionary "vulgar"
Are women allowed to "take a leak" ?
take a leak tv: to urinate. (Crude. Often objectionable. Usually in reference to a male. Leak is the mildest and piss is the strongest.) "I gotta go take a leak. Back in a minute."; "We stopped at a rest area so old Harry could take a piss." See, the Free Dictionary, Idioms and Phrases “take a leak” definition from, McGraw-Hill's Dictionary of American Slang and Colloquial Expressions.
In comment I noted, with amusement: We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental. But, after returning to the page and noting the ‘state of play,’ I’ve decided to respond in answer-form.
The idiom may be considered “vulgar”, but I believe that can only be in a linguistic sense, as in definition 2, below. While the definition of the idiom in discussion, noted above, marks the expression as, “crude”, consider the alternatives, for either gender.
Men routinely employ this expression without self-consciousness or peer censure. Beyond, “Fellas, I got to go to the men’s room”, in my experience “take a leak” [manly and earthy] is more popular than, “excuse me for a moment, gentlemen, but I must urinate” [formal but effete] or “Dudes, I’ll be right back. I gotta take a piss”, [generally crude]; while, “Hey fellas, I gotta powder my nose”, is just completely off the table! [pejoratively effeminate].
For women, aka, the “fairer sex”, who are socialized to be linguistically (if not morally) prudish and self-censorious, the options are more tenuous. Beyond, “Excuse me, but I need to visit the ladies room” [formal] or “Be right back girls, I need to go to the bathroom” [minimally formal], we are left with, "Excuse me, but I must powder my nose” [if we happen to be socialites or Hollywood starlets].
I believe that the American culture (I cannot speak to other cultures), in general, has been pervaded by a native puritanical sensibility, wherein references to bodily functions are never socially acceptable and must be negotiated with euphemistic terminology, the more abstract, the less vulgar and acceptable.
Personally, among my family & friends (i.e., the people I love & who love me) such an expression is acceptable and not considered crude or vulgar. Among others, I tend to be more circumspect (i.e., I "tinkle.")
Vulgar adjective
1. marked by lack of taste, culture, delicacy, manners, etc: vulgar behaviour; vulgar language.
2. (Linguistics) (often capital; usually prenominal) denoting a form of a language, esp of Latin, current among common people, esp. at a period when the formal language is archaic and not in general spoken. see, Collins English Dictionary "vulgar"
edited Mar 4 '15 at 20:21
answered Mar 4 '15 at 14:34
user98990
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
My personal opinion is it's high time we stopped differentiating between male and female behaviour, and most certainly should drop the term 'ladylike'. Men are men and women are women, and I feel 100% free, as a woman, to use any expression I care to when needing to empty my bladder - the only constraint is whether I'm likely to offend the people around me by using some of the coarser expressions, and there are many that I have used whenever I felt like it (within the aforementioned constraint), including the usually-considered-masculine 'slash'. And I'd add I definitely sweat...
If you don't feel comfortable using such an expression, then refrain - it's all down to what you as a person (rather than female) feel comfortable with. If it helps, I give you full permission to say it!
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
My personal opinion is it's high time we stopped differentiating between male and female behaviour, and most certainly should drop the term 'ladylike'. Men are men and women are women, and I feel 100% free, as a woman, to use any expression I care to when needing to empty my bladder - the only constraint is whether I'm likely to offend the people around me by using some of the coarser expressions, and there are many that I have used whenever I felt like it (within the aforementioned constraint), including the usually-considered-masculine 'slash'. And I'd add I definitely sweat...
If you don't feel comfortable using such an expression, then refrain - it's all down to what you as a person (rather than female) feel comfortable with. If it helps, I give you full permission to say it!
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
My personal opinion is it's high time we stopped differentiating between male and female behaviour, and most certainly should drop the term 'ladylike'. Men are men and women are women, and I feel 100% free, as a woman, to use any expression I care to when needing to empty my bladder - the only constraint is whether I'm likely to offend the people around me by using some of the coarser expressions, and there are many that I have used whenever I felt like it (within the aforementioned constraint), including the usually-considered-masculine 'slash'. And I'd add I definitely sweat...
If you don't feel comfortable using such an expression, then refrain - it's all down to what you as a person (rather than female) feel comfortable with. If it helps, I give you full permission to say it!
My personal opinion is it's high time we stopped differentiating between male and female behaviour, and most certainly should drop the term 'ladylike'. Men are men and women are women, and I feel 100% free, as a woman, to use any expression I care to when needing to empty my bladder - the only constraint is whether I'm likely to offend the people around me by using some of the coarser expressions, and there are many that I have used whenever I felt like it (within the aforementioned constraint), including the usually-considered-masculine 'slash'. And I'd add I definitely sweat...
If you don't feel comfortable using such an expression, then refrain - it's all down to what you as a person (rather than female) feel comfortable with. If it helps, I give you full permission to say it!
edited Mar 3 '15 at 16:40
answered Mar 3 '15 at 16:33
bamboo
1,08857
1,08857
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
add a comment |
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
1
1
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
@bamboo: I would remind you that OP is asking and this site is about English language usage, not your opinion and philosophy. (Not my downvote, but if Eva upvoted, then someone else did vote down)
– ThePopMachine
Mar 4 '15 at 17:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
Yes, I upvoted, but you're right @ThePopMachine, while I agree with the sentiments expressed, the answer would benefit from an upgrade i.e., with some online research, quotations, citations, and links. Why not have a go at that, bamboo?
– user98990
Mar 4 '15 at 20:31
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@bamboo: I don't disagree either. But this is not a discussion forum. I fully realize that in this instance whatever I say will look sexist.
– ThePopMachine
Mar 5 '15 at 0:11
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
@ThePopMachine - I know, I just had to make the statement - but the proffered 'answer' to the question is really contained in the penultimate sentence, that is, say it if you're comfortable with it as a person, not otherwise.
– bamboo
Mar 5 '15 at 12:50
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
I know a woman that routinely says “gotta take a piss” or gotta take a leak. It’s unladylike but it seems kinda funny for a woman to say. Maybe she dares to be different and expresses herself a little different.
New contributor
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
I know a woman that routinely says “gotta take a piss” or gotta take a leak. It’s unladylike but it seems kinda funny for a woman to say. Maybe she dares to be different and expresses herself a little different.
New contributor
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
I know a woman that routinely says “gotta take a piss” or gotta take a leak. It’s unladylike but it seems kinda funny for a woman to say. Maybe she dares to be different and expresses herself a little different.
New contributor
I know a woman that routinely says “gotta take a piss” or gotta take a leak. It’s unladylike but it seems kinda funny for a woman to say. Maybe she dares to be different and expresses herself a little different.
New contributor
New contributor
answered Dec 5 at 5:27
DrinkSoda
1
1
New contributor
New contributor
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to English Language & Usage Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fenglish.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f231462%2fis-take-a-leak-considered-only-masculine-or-is-it-okay-if-women-use-it-too%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
We "leak", too. But we only use the expression among those who won't be judgmental.
– user98990
Mar 3 '15 at 12:52
3
It's a hair vulgar in any context.
– Hot Licks
Mar 3 '15 at 13:08
1
Why the downvote? IMHO this is a reasonably well-phrased question even if the topic is nothing I'd ask Miss Manners about. Shouldn't we be able to talk about all kinds of phrases? Or did I miss something?
– Stephie
Mar 3 '15 at 14:04
5
Adapting from sweat, perspire, glow, horses piss, and men take a leak, but ladies only powder their noses.
– FumbleFingers
Mar 3 '15 at 15:56
1
Usually I go for a pee. And sometimes I need to wee. I never leak... but if I laugh hard, I'd say "I've wet myself"
– Mari-Lou A
Mar 4 '15 at 20:00