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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya. In your title you ask about secular and unaffiliated, and in your question you ask about religious (non-orthodox) Jews. Could you edit to clarify?
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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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Welcome to Mi Yodeya. This is an interesting first question, for you. I don't like to give what seems to be a "curt" comment, but, I think the concept is that Mahiach will herald a sense of knowledge and understanding that G-d is the "only G-d" and that everyone will follow His desires. I.e., all non-Jews will follow the Noahide rules and all Jews will observe the mitzvot. I.e., it will be self- apparent and a self-desire to do them.
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According to Maimonides, who is the only major Halachic commentator to rule on these matters, the Moshiach (the Messiah) will teach all people and encourage them to serve G-d. They will be inspired by his wisdom and will all unite in the service of G-d in harmony. This includes religious Jews, non-religious Jews, and non-Jews.



Furthermore, the Zohar says that Moshiach will bring even righteous to do teshuvah (repent), because one of the primary qualities of Moshiach is humility and he will bring us all to realize that all of us are completely inadequate in our knowledge and service of G-d. (see Zohar III 153b)



Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:4




וְאִם יַעֲמֹד מֶלֶךְ מִבֵּית דָּוִד הוֹגֶה בַּתּוֹרָה וְעוֹסֵק בְּמִצְוֹת כְּדָוִד אָבִיו. כְּפִי תּוֹרָה שֶׁבִּכְתָב וְשֶׁבְּעַל
פֶּה. וְיָכֹף כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לֵילֵךְ בָּהּ וּלְחַזֵּק בִּדְקָהּ.
וְיִלָּחֵם מִלְחֲמוֹת ה'. הֲרֵי זֶה בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהוּא מָשִׁיחַ. (אִם
עָשָׂה וְהִצְלִיחַ וּבָנָה מִקְדָּשׁ בִּמְקוֹמוֹ וְקִבֵּץ נִדְחֵי
יִשְׂרָאֵל הֲרֵי זֶה מָשִׁיחַ בְּוַדַּאי. וִיתַקֵּן אֶת הָעוֹלָם
כֻּלּוֹ לַעֲבֹד אֶת ה' בְּיַחַד שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כִּי אָז אֶהְפֹּךְ אֶל
עַמִּים שָׂפָה בְרוּרָה לִקְרֹא כֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם ה' וּלְעָבְדוֹ שְׁכֶם
אֶחָד):



Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in
Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in
accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins
all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its
breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d, then he may be presumed to
be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies
around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the
dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah.




Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:9




וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין
ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעום.



But when the true King Messiah will rise and succeed, and he will be
lifted up and raised aloft, they [the nations of the world] all will immediately return > and will know that their fathers left them an erroneous legacy, and their
fathers and prophets led them astray.




Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 13:5




וּבְאוֹתוֹ הַזְּמַן לֹא יִהְיֶה שָׁם לֹא רָעָב וְלֹא מִלְחָמָה. וְלֹא
קִנְאָה וְתַחֲרוּת. שֶׁהַטּוֹבָה תִּהְיֶה מֻשְׁפַּעַת הַרְבֵּה. וְכָל
הַמַּעֲדַנִּים מְצוּיִין כֶּעָפָר. וְלֹא יִהְיֶה עֵסֶק כָּל הָעוֹלָם
אֶלָּא לָדַעַת אֶת ה' בִּלְבַד. וּלְפִיכָךְ יִהְיוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל
חֲכָמִים גְּדוֹלִים וְיוֹדְעִים דְּבָרִים הַסְּתוּמִים וְיַשִּׂיגוּ
דַּעַת בּוֹרְאָם כְּפִי כֹּחַ הָאָדָם. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ישעיה יא, ט) "כִּי
מָלְאָה הָאָרֶץ דֵּעָה אֶת ה' כַּמַּיִם לַיָּם מְכַסִּים":



At that time there will be no famines and no wars, no envy and no
competition. For the Good will be very pervasive148. All the
delicacies will be as readily available as is dust. The world will
only be engaged in knowing G-d. Then, there will be very wise
people who will understand the deep, sealed matters. They will then
achieve knowledge of the Creator to as high a degree as humanly
possible, as it says, “For the Earth shall be filled of knowledge of
the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). Blessed be
Hashem who helped me.




Isaiah 27:13




וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא יִתָּקַע֮ בְּשׁוֹפָ֣ר גָּדוֹל֒ וּבָ֗אוּ הָאֹֽבְדִים֙ בְּאֶ֣רֶץ אַשּׁ֔וּר וְהַנִּדָּחִ֖ים בְּאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרָ֑יִם וְהִשְׁתַּחֲו֧וּ לַיהוָ֛ה בְּהַ֥ר הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ בִּירוּשָׁלִָֽם׃



And in that day, a great ram’s horn shall be sounded; and the strayed
who are in the land of Assyria and the expelled who are in the land of
Egypt shall come and worship the LORD on the holy mount, in Jerusalem.




Zephania 3:9




כִּֽי־אָ֛ז אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ אֶל־עַמִּ֖ים שָׂפָ֣ה בְרוּרָ֑ה לִקְרֹ֤א כֻלָּם֙
בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה לְעָבְד֖וֹ שְׁכֶ֥ם אֶחָֽד׃



For then I will make the peoples pure of speech, So that they all
invoke the LORD by name And serve Him with one accord.







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    Your question is a good one and something that everyone, including every Jew should be thinking about. In fact, it is meritorious to have the subject of Moshiach and his imminent arrival in you thoughts each and every day like is said in regard to Moshiach, ״and, though he tarry, I watch for him all day that he will come...״.



    This is not just in a general sense, but also in regard to the details.



    We follow the teaching which we received from Yehoshuah ben Nun, the student and successor to Moshe Rabbeinu about this. This teaching is said by Jews at the close of each daily prayer service with the Aleinu prayer. It says:




    that You will sweep idolatry away so that false gods will be utterly destroyed, and that You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty so that all humanity will invoke Your name, and all the earth's wicked will return to You, repentant. Then all who live will know that to You every knee must bend, every tongue pledge loyalty.




    It does not say that destruction comes upon humanity, G-d forbid, but rather that everyone will be perfected through Moshiach's coming.






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    • Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
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    • Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
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    • Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
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    1. Nobody knows exactly until it happens, see Rambam end of Melachim (cited above). Don't believe anyone who says he knows, it is all just speculations.


    2. Keep in mind that the "time of Moshiach" is a very long era spanning probably a hundred of years from his coming to the building of the Temple and slow transformation into the World to Come, which nullifies the free choice and everyone becomes a robot (sort of).


    3. You probably expect the world to divide into righteous and wicked, and at "the end of the world" - the Messianic times the pious getting all the benefits and rewards and the wicked get punished. This idea has some roots in Judaism, but I would like to focus on the definition of the pious and the wicked.



    4. We have two systems for measuring people's "religious" progress: an absolute and a relative:




      • The absolute system takes the contemporary Jewish Law (Shu"A and the latest Poskim) as the baseline and the person's behavior is assessed against it - the more he observes it the more reward he gets and the more he overrides it the more punishment he has.


      • The relative system assesses the person according to his personal destiny and the personal goal of his existence. It might be learning Torah and it might be one particular Mitzvah (such as honoring parents. See my other anser). According to this approach, a person might be a pious Jew observing the whole Shu"A but missing his goal and the opposite.




    5. Therefore according to the second approach, we can't judge the people based on their appearance, they might be looking secular and be pious in G-d's eyes or the opposite.


    6. All the previous answers focused on the first approach, while it seems that the Mashiach's mission (to bring the world to its completion) is to teach everyone his personal challenges and purposes resulting in what the Gemmorah allegorically hints (Yevomos 62a): "אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף"







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      According to Maimonides, who is the only major Halachic commentator to rule on these matters, the Moshiach (the Messiah) will teach all people and encourage them to serve G-d. They will be inspired by his wisdom and will all unite in the service of G-d in harmony. This includes religious Jews, non-religious Jews, and non-Jews.



      Furthermore, the Zohar says that Moshiach will bring even righteous to do teshuvah (repent), because one of the primary qualities of Moshiach is humility and he will bring us all to realize that all of us are completely inadequate in our knowledge and service of G-d. (see Zohar III 153b)



      Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:4




      וְאִם יַעֲמֹד מֶלֶךְ מִבֵּית דָּוִד הוֹגֶה בַּתּוֹרָה וְעוֹסֵק בְּמִצְוֹת כְּדָוִד אָבִיו. כְּפִי תּוֹרָה שֶׁבִּכְתָב וְשֶׁבְּעַל
      פֶּה. וְיָכֹף כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לֵילֵךְ בָּהּ וּלְחַזֵּק בִּדְקָהּ.
      וְיִלָּחֵם מִלְחֲמוֹת ה'. הֲרֵי זֶה בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהוּא מָשִׁיחַ. (אִם
      עָשָׂה וְהִצְלִיחַ וּבָנָה מִקְדָּשׁ בִּמְקוֹמוֹ וְקִבֵּץ נִדְחֵי
      יִשְׂרָאֵל הֲרֵי זֶה מָשִׁיחַ בְּוַדַּאי. וִיתַקֵּן אֶת הָעוֹלָם
      כֻּלּוֹ לַעֲבֹד אֶת ה' בְּיַחַד שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כִּי אָז אֶהְפֹּךְ אֶל
      עַמִּים שָׂפָה בְרוּרָה לִקְרֹא כֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם ה' וּלְעָבְדוֹ שְׁכֶם
      אֶחָד):



      Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in
      Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in
      accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins
      all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its
      breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d, then he may be presumed to
      be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies
      around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the
      dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah.




      Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:9




      וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין
      ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעום.



      But when the true King Messiah will rise and succeed, and he will be
      lifted up and raised aloft, they [the nations of the world] all will immediately return > and will know that their fathers left them an erroneous legacy, and their
      fathers and prophets led them astray.




      Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 13:5




      וּבְאוֹתוֹ הַזְּמַן לֹא יִהְיֶה שָׁם לֹא רָעָב וְלֹא מִלְחָמָה. וְלֹא
      קִנְאָה וְתַחֲרוּת. שֶׁהַטּוֹבָה תִּהְיֶה מֻשְׁפַּעַת הַרְבֵּה. וְכָל
      הַמַּעֲדַנִּים מְצוּיִין כֶּעָפָר. וְלֹא יִהְיֶה עֵסֶק כָּל הָעוֹלָם
      אֶלָּא לָדַעַת אֶת ה' בִּלְבַד. וּלְפִיכָךְ יִהְיוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל
      חֲכָמִים גְּדוֹלִים וְיוֹדְעִים דְּבָרִים הַסְּתוּמִים וְיַשִּׂיגוּ
      דַּעַת בּוֹרְאָם כְּפִי כֹּחַ הָאָדָם. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ישעיה יא, ט) "כִּי
      מָלְאָה הָאָרֶץ דֵּעָה אֶת ה' כַּמַּיִם לַיָּם מְכַסִּים":



      At that time there will be no famines and no wars, no envy and no
      competition. For the Good will be very pervasive148. All the
      delicacies will be as readily available as is dust. The world will
      only be engaged in knowing G-d. Then, there will be very wise
      people who will understand the deep, sealed matters. They will then
      achieve knowledge of the Creator to as high a degree as humanly
      possible, as it says, “For the Earth shall be filled of knowledge of
      the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). Blessed be
      Hashem who helped me.




      Isaiah 27:13




      וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא יִתָּקַע֮ בְּשׁוֹפָ֣ר גָּדוֹל֒ וּבָ֗אוּ הָאֹֽבְדִים֙ בְּאֶ֣רֶץ אַשּׁ֔וּר וְהַנִּדָּחִ֖ים בְּאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרָ֑יִם וְהִשְׁתַּחֲו֧וּ לַיהוָ֛ה בְּהַ֥ר הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ בִּירוּשָׁלִָֽם׃



      And in that day, a great ram’s horn shall be sounded; and the strayed
      who are in the land of Assyria and the expelled who are in the land of
      Egypt shall come and worship the LORD on the holy mount, in Jerusalem.




      Zephania 3:9




      כִּֽי־אָ֛ז אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ אֶל־עַמִּ֖ים שָׂפָ֣ה בְרוּרָ֑ה לִקְרֹ֤א כֻלָּם֙
      בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה לְעָבְד֖וֹ שְׁכֶ֥ם אֶחָֽד׃



      For then I will make the peoples pure of speech, So that they all
      invoke the LORD by name And serve Him with one accord.







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        According to Maimonides, who is the only major Halachic commentator to rule on these matters, the Moshiach (the Messiah) will teach all people and encourage them to serve G-d. They will be inspired by his wisdom and will all unite in the service of G-d in harmony. This includes religious Jews, non-religious Jews, and non-Jews.



        Furthermore, the Zohar says that Moshiach will bring even righteous to do teshuvah (repent), because one of the primary qualities of Moshiach is humility and he will bring us all to realize that all of us are completely inadequate in our knowledge and service of G-d. (see Zohar III 153b)



        Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:4




        וְאִם יַעֲמֹד מֶלֶךְ מִבֵּית דָּוִד הוֹגֶה בַּתּוֹרָה וְעוֹסֵק בְּמִצְוֹת כְּדָוִד אָבִיו. כְּפִי תּוֹרָה שֶׁבִּכְתָב וְשֶׁבְּעַל
        פֶּה. וְיָכֹף כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לֵילֵךְ בָּהּ וּלְחַזֵּק בִּדְקָהּ.
        וְיִלָּחֵם מִלְחֲמוֹת ה'. הֲרֵי זֶה בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהוּא מָשִׁיחַ. (אִם
        עָשָׂה וְהִצְלִיחַ וּבָנָה מִקְדָּשׁ בִּמְקוֹמוֹ וְקִבֵּץ נִדְחֵי
        יִשְׂרָאֵל הֲרֵי זֶה מָשִׁיחַ בְּוַדַּאי. וִיתַקֵּן אֶת הָעוֹלָם
        כֻּלּוֹ לַעֲבֹד אֶת ה' בְּיַחַד שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כִּי אָז אֶהְפֹּךְ אֶל
        עַמִּים שָׂפָה בְרוּרָה לִקְרֹא כֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם ה' וּלְעָבְדוֹ שְׁכֶם
        אֶחָד):



        Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in
        Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in
        accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins
        all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its
        breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d, then he may be presumed to
        be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies
        around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the
        dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah.




        Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:9




        וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין
        ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעום.



        But when the true King Messiah will rise and succeed, and he will be
        lifted up and raised aloft, they [the nations of the world] all will immediately return > and will know that their fathers left them an erroneous legacy, and their
        fathers and prophets led them astray.




        Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 13:5




        וּבְאוֹתוֹ הַזְּמַן לֹא יִהְיֶה שָׁם לֹא רָעָב וְלֹא מִלְחָמָה. וְלֹא
        קִנְאָה וְתַחֲרוּת. שֶׁהַטּוֹבָה תִּהְיֶה מֻשְׁפַּעַת הַרְבֵּה. וְכָל
        הַמַּעֲדַנִּים מְצוּיִין כֶּעָפָר. וְלֹא יִהְיֶה עֵסֶק כָּל הָעוֹלָם
        אֶלָּא לָדַעַת אֶת ה' בִּלְבַד. וּלְפִיכָךְ יִהְיוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל
        חֲכָמִים גְּדוֹלִים וְיוֹדְעִים דְּבָרִים הַסְּתוּמִים וְיַשִּׂיגוּ
        דַּעַת בּוֹרְאָם כְּפִי כֹּחַ הָאָדָם. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ישעיה יא, ט) "כִּי
        מָלְאָה הָאָרֶץ דֵּעָה אֶת ה' כַּמַּיִם לַיָּם מְכַסִּים":



        At that time there will be no famines and no wars, no envy and no
        competition. For the Good will be very pervasive148. All the
        delicacies will be as readily available as is dust. The world will
        only be engaged in knowing G-d. Then, there will be very wise
        people who will understand the deep, sealed matters. They will then
        achieve knowledge of the Creator to as high a degree as humanly
        possible, as it says, “For the Earth shall be filled of knowledge of
        the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). Blessed be
        Hashem who helped me.




        Isaiah 27:13




        וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא יִתָּקַע֮ בְּשׁוֹפָ֣ר גָּדוֹל֒ וּבָ֗אוּ הָאֹֽבְדִים֙ בְּאֶ֣רֶץ אַשּׁ֔וּר וְהַנִּדָּחִ֖ים בְּאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרָ֑יִם וְהִשְׁתַּחֲו֧וּ לַיהוָ֛ה בְּהַ֥ר הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ בִּירוּשָׁלִָֽם׃



        And in that day, a great ram’s horn shall be sounded; and the strayed
        who are in the land of Assyria and the expelled who are in the land of
        Egypt shall come and worship the LORD on the holy mount, in Jerusalem.




        Zephania 3:9




        כִּֽי־אָ֛ז אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ אֶל־עַמִּ֖ים שָׂפָ֣ה בְרוּרָ֑ה לִקְרֹ֤א כֻלָּם֙
        בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה לְעָבְד֖וֹ שְׁכֶ֥ם אֶחָֽד׃



        For then I will make the peoples pure of speech, So that they all
        invoke the LORD by name And serve Him with one accord.







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          up vote
          8
          down vote









          According to Maimonides, who is the only major Halachic commentator to rule on these matters, the Moshiach (the Messiah) will teach all people and encourage them to serve G-d. They will be inspired by his wisdom and will all unite in the service of G-d in harmony. This includes religious Jews, non-religious Jews, and non-Jews.



          Furthermore, the Zohar says that Moshiach will bring even righteous to do teshuvah (repent), because one of the primary qualities of Moshiach is humility and he will bring us all to realize that all of us are completely inadequate in our knowledge and service of G-d. (see Zohar III 153b)



          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:4




          וְאִם יַעֲמֹד מֶלֶךְ מִבֵּית דָּוִד הוֹגֶה בַּתּוֹרָה וְעוֹסֵק בְּמִצְוֹת כְּדָוִד אָבִיו. כְּפִי תּוֹרָה שֶׁבִּכְתָב וְשֶׁבְּעַל
          פֶּה. וְיָכֹף כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לֵילֵךְ בָּהּ וּלְחַזֵּק בִּדְקָהּ.
          וְיִלָּחֵם מִלְחֲמוֹת ה'. הֲרֵי זֶה בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהוּא מָשִׁיחַ. (אִם
          עָשָׂה וְהִצְלִיחַ וּבָנָה מִקְדָּשׁ בִּמְקוֹמוֹ וְקִבֵּץ נִדְחֵי
          יִשְׂרָאֵל הֲרֵי זֶה מָשִׁיחַ בְּוַדַּאי. וִיתַקֵּן אֶת הָעוֹלָם
          כֻּלּוֹ לַעֲבֹד אֶת ה' בְּיַחַד שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כִּי אָז אֶהְפֹּךְ אֶל
          עַמִּים שָׂפָה בְרוּרָה לִקְרֹא כֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם ה' וּלְעָבְדוֹ שְׁכֶם
          אֶחָד):



          Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in
          Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in
          accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins
          all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its
          breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d, then he may be presumed to
          be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies
          around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the
          dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah.




          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:9




          וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין
          ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעום.



          But when the true King Messiah will rise and succeed, and he will be
          lifted up and raised aloft, they [the nations of the world] all will immediately return > and will know that their fathers left them an erroneous legacy, and their
          fathers and prophets led them astray.




          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 13:5




          וּבְאוֹתוֹ הַזְּמַן לֹא יִהְיֶה שָׁם לֹא רָעָב וְלֹא מִלְחָמָה. וְלֹא
          קִנְאָה וְתַחֲרוּת. שֶׁהַטּוֹבָה תִּהְיֶה מֻשְׁפַּעַת הַרְבֵּה. וְכָל
          הַמַּעֲדַנִּים מְצוּיִין כֶּעָפָר. וְלֹא יִהְיֶה עֵסֶק כָּל הָעוֹלָם
          אֶלָּא לָדַעַת אֶת ה' בִּלְבַד. וּלְפִיכָךְ יִהְיוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל
          חֲכָמִים גְּדוֹלִים וְיוֹדְעִים דְּבָרִים הַסְּתוּמִים וְיַשִּׂיגוּ
          דַּעַת בּוֹרְאָם כְּפִי כֹּחַ הָאָדָם. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ישעיה יא, ט) "כִּי
          מָלְאָה הָאָרֶץ דֵּעָה אֶת ה' כַּמַּיִם לַיָּם מְכַסִּים":



          At that time there will be no famines and no wars, no envy and no
          competition. For the Good will be very pervasive148. All the
          delicacies will be as readily available as is dust. The world will
          only be engaged in knowing G-d. Then, there will be very wise
          people who will understand the deep, sealed matters. They will then
          achieve knowledge of the Creator to as high a degree as humanly
          possible, as it says, “For the Earth shall be filled of knowledge of
          the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). Blessed be
          Hashem who helped me.




          Isaiah 27:13




          וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא יִתָּקַע֮ בְּשׁוֹפָ֣ר גָּדוֹל֒ וּבָ֗אוּ הָאֹֽבְדִים֙ בְּאֶ֣רֶץ אַשּׁ֔וּר וְהַנִּדָּחִ֖ים בְּאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרָ֑יִם וְהִשְׁתַּחֲו֧וּ לַיהוָ֛ה בְּהַ֥ר הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ בִּירוּשָׁלִָֽם׃



          And in that day, a great ram’s horn shall be sounded; and the strayed
          who are in the land of Assyria and the expelled who are in the land of
          Egypt shall come and worship the LORD on the holy mount, in Jerusalem.




          Zephania 3:9




          כִּֽי־אָ֛ז אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ אֶל־עַמִּ֖ים שָׂפָ֣ה בְרוּרָ֑ה לִקְרֹ֤א כֻלָּם֙
          בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה לְעָבְד֖וֹ שְׁכֶ֥ם אֶחָֽד׃



          For then I will make the peoples pure of speech, So that they all
          invoke the LORD by name And serve Him with one accord.







          share|improve this answer














          According to Maimonides, who is the only major Halachic commentator to rule on these matters, the Moshiach (the Messiah) will teach all people and encourage them to serve G-d. They will be inspired by his wisdom and will all unite in the service of G-d in harmony. This includes religious Jews, non-religious Jews, and non-Jews.



          Furthermore, the Zohar says that Moshiach will bring even righteous to do teshuvah (repent), because one of the primary qualities of Moshiach is humility and he will bring us all to realize that all of us are completely inadequate in our knowledge and service of G-d. (see Zohar III 153b)



          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:4




          וְאִם יַעֲמֹד מֶלֶךְ מִבֵּית דָּוִד הוֹגֶה בַּתּוֹרָה וְעוֹסֵק בְּמִצְוֹת כְּדָוִד אָבִיו. כְּפִי תּוֹרָה שֶׁבִּכְתָב וְשֶׁבְּעַל
          פֶּה. וְיָכֹף כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל לֵילֵךְ בָּהּ וּלְחַזֵּק בִּדְקָהּ.
          וְיִלָּחֵם מִלְחֲמוֹת ה'. הֲרֵי זֶה בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהוּא מָשִׁיחַ. (אִם
          עָשָׂה וְהִצְלִיחַ וּבָנָה מִקְדָּשׁ בִּמְקוֹמוֹ וְקִבֵּץ נִדְחֵי
          יִשְׂרָאֵל הֲרֵי זֶה מָשִׁיחַ בְּוַדַּאי. וִיתַקֵּן אֶת הָעוֹלָם
          כֻּלּוֹ לַעֲבֹד אֶת ה' בְּיַחַד שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר כִּי אָז אֶהְפֹּךְ אֶל
          עַמִּים שָׂפָה בְרוּרָה לִקְרֹא כֻלָּם בְּשֵׁם ה' וּלְעָבְדוֹ שְׁכֶם
          אֶחָד):



          Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in
          Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in
          accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins
          all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its
          breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d, then he may be presumed to
          be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies
          around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the
          dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah.




          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 12:9




          וכשיעמוד המלך המשיח באמת, ויצליח וירום ויינשא--מיד הם כולן חוזרין
          ויודעים ששקר נחלו אבותיהם, ושנביאיהם ואבותיהם הטעום.



          But when the true King Messiah will rise and succeed, and he will be
          lifted up and raised aloft, they [the nations of the world] all will immediately return > and will know that their fathers left them an erroneous legacy, and their
          fathers and prophets led them astray.




          Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Kings 13:5




          וּבְאוֹתוֹ הַזְּמַן לֹא יִהְיֶה שָׁם לֹא רָעָב וְלֹא מִלְחָמָה. וְלֹא
          קִנְאָה וְתַחֲרוּת. שֶׁהַטּוֹבָה תִּהְיֶה מֻשְׁפַּעַת הַרְבֵּה. וְכָל
          הַמַּעֲדַנִּים מְצוּיִין כֶּעָפָר. וְלֹא יִהְיֶה עֵסֶק כָּל הָעוֹלָם
          אֶלָּא לָדַעַת אֶת ה' בִּלְבַד. וּלְפִיכָךְ יִהְיוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל
          חֲכָמִים גְּדוֹלִים וְיוֹדְעִים דְּבָרִים הַסְּתוּמִים וְיַשִּׂיגוּ
          דַּעַת בּוֹרְאָם כְּפִי כֹּחַ הָאָדָם. שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ישעיה יא, ט) "כִּי
          מָלְאָה הָאָרֶץ דֵּעָה אֶת ה' כַּמַּיִם לַיָּם מְכַסִּים":



          At that time there will be no famines and no wars, no envy and no
          competition. For the Good will be very pervasive148. All the
          delicacies will be as readily available as is dust. The world will
          only be engaged in knowing G-d. Then, there will be very wise
          people who will understand the deep, sealed matters. They will then
          achieve knowledge of the Creator to as high a degree as humanly
          possible, as it says, “For the Earth shall be filled of knowledge of
          the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). Blessed be
          Hashem who helped me.




          Isaiah 27:13




          וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֗וּא יִתָּקַע֮ בְּשׁוֹפָ֣ר גָּדוֹל֒ וּבָ֗אוּ הָאֹֽבְדִים֙ בְּאֶ֣רֶץ אַשּׁ֔וּר וְהַנִּדָּחִ֖ים בְּאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרָ֑יִם וְהִשְׁתַּחֲו֧וּ לַיהוָ֛ה בְּהַ֥ר הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ בִּירוּשָׁלִָֽם׃



          And in that day, a great ram’s horn shall be sounded; and the strayed
          who are in the land of Assyria and the expelled who are in the land of
          Egypt shall come and worship the LORD on the holy mount, in Jerusalem.




          Zephania 3:9




          כִּֽי־אָ֛ז אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ אֶל־עַמִּ֖ים שָׂפָ֣ה בְרוּרָ֑ה לִקְרֹ֤א כֻלָּם֙
          בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֔ה לְעָבְד֖וֹ שְׁכֶ֥ם אֶחָֽד׃



          For then I will make the peoples pure of speech, So that they all
          invoke the LORD by name And serve Him with one accord.








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              Welcome to Mi Yodeya.



              Your question is a good one and something that everyone, including every Jew should be thinking about. In fact, it is meritorious to have the subject of Moshiach and his imminent arrival in you thoughts each and every day like is said in regard to Moshiach, ״and, though he tarry, I watch for him all day that he will come...״.



              This is not just in a general sense, but also in regard to the details.



              We follow the teaching which we received from Yehoshuah ben Nun, the student and successor to Moshe Rabbeinu about this. This teaching is said by Jews at the close of each daily prayer service with the Aleinu prayer. It says:




              that You will sweep idolatry away so that false gods will be utterly destroyed, and that You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty so that all humanity will invoke Your name, and all the earth's wicked will return to You, repentant. Then all who live will know that to You every knee must bend, every tongue pledge loyalty.




              It does not say that destruction comes upon humanity, G-d forbid, but rather that everyone will be perfected through Moshiach's coming.






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              • Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:09












              • Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:19












              • Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
                – Anonymous
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              Welcome to Mi Yodeya.



              Your question is a good one and something that everyone, including every Jew should be thinking about. In fact, it is meritorious to have the subject of Moshiach and his imminent arrival in you thoughts each and every day like is said in regard to Moshiach, ״and, though he tarry, I watch for him all day that he will come...״.



              This is not just in a general sense, but also in regard to the details.



              We follow the teaching which we received from Yehoshuah ben Nun, the student and successor to Moshe Rabbeinu about this. This teaching is said by Jews at the close of each daily prayer service with the Aleinu prayer. It says:




              that You will sweep idolatry away so that false gods will be utterly destroyed, and that You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty so that all humanity will invoke Your name, and all the earth's wicked will return to You, repentant. Then all who live will know that to You every knee must bend, every tongue pledge loyalty.




              It does not say that destruction comes upon humanity, G-d forbid, but rather that everyone will be perfected through Moshiach's coming.






              share|improve this answer























              • Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:09












              • Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:19












              • Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
                – Anonymous
                Dec 13 at 22:47













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              up vote
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              Welcome to Mi Yodeya.



              Your question is a good one and something that everyone, including every Jew should be thinking about. In fact, it is meritorious to have the subject of Moshiach and his imminent arrival in you thoughts each and every day like is said in regard to Moshiach, ״and, though he tarry, I watch for him all day that he will come...״.



              This is not just in a general sense, but also in regard to the details.



              We follow the teaching which we received from Yehoshuah ben Nun, the student and successor to Moshe Rabbeinu about this. This teaching is said by Jews at the close of each daily prayer service with the Aleinu prayer. It says:




              that You will sweep idolatry away so that false gods will be utterly destroyed, and that You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty so that all humanity will invoke Your name, and all the earth's wicked will return to You, repentant. Then all who live will know that to You every knee must bend, every tongue pledge loyalty.




              It does not say that destruction comes upon humanity, G-d forbid, but rather that everyone will be perfected through Moshiach's coming.






              share|improve this answer














              Welcome to Mi Yodeya.



              Your question is a good one and something that everyone, including every Jew should be thinking about. In fact, it is meritorious to have the subject of Moshiach and his imminent arrival in you thoughts each and every day like is said in regard to Moshiach, ״and, though he tarry, I watch for him all day that he will come...״.



              This is not just in a general sense, but also in regard to the details.



              We follow the teaching which we received from Yehoshuah ben Nun, the student and successor to Moshe Rabbeinu about this. This teaching is said by Jews at the close of each daily prayer service with the Aleinu prayer. It says:




              that You will sweep idolatry away so that false gods will be utterly destroyed, and that You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty so that all humanity will invoke Your name, and all the earth's wicked will return to You, repentant. Then all who live will know that to You every knee must bend, every tongue pledge loyalty.




              It does not say that destruction comes upon humanity, G-d forbid, but rather that everyone will be perfected through Moshiach's coming.







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              • Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:09












              • Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:19












              • Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
                – Anonymous
                Dec 13 at 22:47


















              • Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:09












              • Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
                – Double AA
                Dec 13 at 21:19












              • Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
                – Anonymous
                Dec 13 at 22:47
















              Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
              – Double AA
              Dec 13 at 21:09






              Actually old manuscripts of the prayer have "You will establish the world in the Kingdom of God" not "You will perfect the world by Your sovereignty" which doesn't really address the question. The relevant line for your purposes is להפנות אליך כל רשעי ארץ which is a fine answer to the question (controversial claims about the origin of this prayer and its locations in the liturgy notwithstanding)
              – Double AA
              Dec 13 at 21:09














              Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
              – Double AA
              Dec 13 at 21:19






              Try trimming this down, as you say about your own style "In general I try to be brief, where appropriate." This answer could easily be a third as long without loss of important relevant content or context
              – Double AA
              Dec 13 at 21:19














              Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
              – Anonymous
              Dec 13 at 22:47




              Regarding the last paragraph, I'd have to disagree. There will be a destruction when the mysterious natun of 'Gog uMagog' will arrive. According to the mystic teachings, it will be the third and final world war. 1/3 of humanity will be swept away, 1/3 of humanity will be crippled and 1/3 of humanity will be unscathed. It will all happen in the course of 12 minutes.
              – Anonymous
              Dec 13 at 22:47










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              1. Nobody knows exactly until it happens, see Rambam end of Melachim (cited above). Don't believe anyone who says he knows, it is all just speculations.


              2. Keep in mind that the "time of Moshiach" is a very long era spanning probably a hundred of years from his coming to the building of the Temple and slow transformation into the World to Come, which nullifies the free choice and everyone becomes a robot (sort of).


              3. You probably expect the world to divide into righteous and wicked, and at "the end of the world" - the Messianic times the pious getting all the benefits and rewards and the wicked get punished. This idea has some roots in Judaism, but I would like to focus on the definition of the pious and the wicked.



              4. We have two systems for measuring people's "religious" progress: an absolute and a relative:




                • The absolute system takes the contemporary Jewish Law (Shu"A and the latest Poskim) as the baseline and the person's behavior is assessed against it - the more he observes it the more reward he gets and the more he overrides it the more punishment he has.


                • The relative system assesses the person according to his personal destiny and the personal goal of his existence. It might be learning Torah and it might be one particular Mitzvah (such as honoring parents. See my other anser). According to this approach, a person might be a pious Jew observing the whole Shu"A but missing his goal and the opposite.




              5. Therefore according to the second approach, we can't judge the people based on their appearance, they might be looking secular and be pious in G-d's eyes or the opposite.


              6. All the previous answers focused on the first approach, while it seems that the Mashiach's mission (to bring the world to its completion) is to teach everyone his personal challenges and purposes resulting in what the Gemmorah allegorically hints (Yevomos 62a): "אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף"







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                1. Nobody knows exactly until it happens, see Rambam end of Melachim (cited above). Don't believe anyone who says he knows, it is all just speculations.


                2. Keep in mind that the "time of Moshiach" is a very long era spanning probably a hundred of years from his coming to the building of the Temple and slow transformation into the World to Come, which nullifies the free choice and everyone becomes a robot (sort of).


                3. You probably expect the world to divide into righteous and wicked, and at "the end of the world" - the Messianic times the pious getting all the benefits and rewards and the wicked get punished. This idea has some roots in Judaism, but I would like to focus on the definition of the pious and the wicked.



                4. We have two systems for measuring people's "religious" progress: an absolute and a relative:




                  • The absolute system takes the contemporary Jewish Law (Shu"A and the latest Poskim) as the baseline and the person's behavior is assessed against it - the more he observes it the more reward he gets and the more he overrides it the more punishment he has.


                  • The relative system assesses the person according to his personal destiny and the personal goal of his existence. It might be learning Torah and it might be one particular Mitzvah (such as honoring parents. See my other anser). According to this approach, a person might be a pious Jew observing the whole Shu"A but missing his goal and the opposite.




                5. Therefore according to the second approach, we can't judge the people based on their appearance, they might be looking secular and be pious in G-d's eyes or the opposite.


                6. All the previous answers focused on the first approach, while it seems that the Mashiach's mission (to bring the world to its completion) is to teach everyone his personal challenges and purposes resulting in what the Gemmorah allegorically hints (Yevomos 62a): "אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף"







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                  up vote
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                  1. Nobody knows exactly until it happens, see Rambam end of Melachim (cited above). Don't believe anyone who says he knows, it is all just speculations.


                  2. Keep in mind that the "time of Moshiach" is a very long era spanning probably a hundred of years from his coming to the building of the Temple and slow transformation into the World to Come, which nullifies the free choice and everyone becomes a robot (sort of).


                  3. You probably expect the world to divide into righteous and wicked, and at "the end of the world" - the Messianic times the pious getting all the benefits and rewards and the wicked get punished. This idea has some roots in Judaism, but I would like to focus on the definition of the pious and the wicked.



                  4. We have two systems for measuring people's "religious" progress: an absolute and a relative:




                    • The absolute system takes the contemporary Jewish Law (Shu"A and the latest Poskim) as the baseline and the person's behavior is assessed against it - the more he observes it the more reward he gets and the more he overrides it the more punishment he has.


                    • The relative system assesses the person according to his personal destiny and the personal goal of his existence. It might be learning Torah and it might be one particular Mitzvah (such as honoring parents. See my other anser). According to this approach, a person might be a pious Jew observing the whole Shu"A but missing his goal and the opposite.




                  5. Therefore according to the second approach, we can't judge the people based on their appearance, they might be looking secular and be pious in G-d's eyes or the opposite.


                  6. All the previous answers focused on the first approach, while it seems that the Mashiach's mission (to bring the world to its completion) is to teach everyone his personal challenges and purposes resulting in what the Gemmorah allegorically hints (Yevomos 62a): "אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף"







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                  1. Nobody knows exactly until it happens, see Rambam end of Melachim (cited above). Don't believe anyone who says he knows, it is all just speculations.


                  2. Keep in mind that the "time of Moshiach" is a very long era spanning probably a hundred of years from his coming to the building of the Temple and slow transformation into the World to Come, which nullifies the free choice and everyone becomes a robot (sort of).


                  3. You probably expect the world to divide into righteous and wicked, and at "the end of the world" - the Messianic times the pious getting all the benefits and rewards and the wicked get punished. This idea has some roots in Judaism, but I would like to focus on the definition of the pious and the wicked.



                  4. We have two systems for measuring people's "religious" progress: an absolute and a relative:




                    • The absolute system takes the contemporary Jewish Law (Shu"A and the latest Poskim) as the baseline and the person's behavior is assessed against it - the more he observes it the more reward he gets and the more he overrides it the more punishment he has.


                    • The relative system assesses the person according to his personal destiny and the personal goal of his existence. It might be learning Torah and it might be one particular Mitzvah (such as honoring parents. See my other anser). According to this approach, a person might be a pious Jew observing the whole Shu"A but missing his goal and the opposite.




                  5. Therefore according to the second approach, we can't judge the people based on their appearance, they might be looking secular and be pious in G-d's eyes or the opposite.


                  6. All the previous answers focused on the first approach, while it seems that the Mashiach's mission (to bring the world to its completion) is to teach everyone his personal challenges and purposes resulting in what the Gemmorah allegorically hints (Yevomos 62a): "אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף"








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