Apostrophe Use In Abbreviated Decade Which Is Also A Possessive
I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.
However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house
Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house
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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.
However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house
Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house
punctuation possessives abbreviations numbers apostrophe
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I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.
However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house
Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house
punctuation possessives abbreviations numbers apostrophe
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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.
However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house
Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house
punctuation possessives abbreviations numbers apostrophe
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I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
add a comment |
I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday
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At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.
From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):
years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.
From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):
9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)
From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):
4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.
So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as
1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]
or
sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]
or
1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]
And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:
'60s soul to '90s house
Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in
the '90s' main contribution to popular culture
but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form
the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture
If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:
the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture
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At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.
From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):
years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.
From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):
9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)
From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):
4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.
So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as
1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]
or
sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]
or
1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]
And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:
'60s soul to '90s house
Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in
the '90s' main contribution to popular culture
but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form
the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture
If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:
the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture
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At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.
From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):
years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.
From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):
9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)
From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):
4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.
So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as
1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]
or
sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]
or
1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]
And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:
'60s soul to '90s house
Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in
the '90s' main contribution to popular culture
but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form
the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture
If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:
the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture
add a comment |
At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.
From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):
years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.
From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):
9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)
From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):
4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.
So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as
1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]
or
sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]
or
1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]
And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:
'60s soul to '90s house
Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in
the '90s' main contribution to popular culture
but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form
the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture
If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:
the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture
At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.
From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):
years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.
From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):
9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)
From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):
4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.
So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as
1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]
or
sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]
or
1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]
And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:
'60s soul to '90s house
Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in
the '90s' main contribution to popular culture
but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form
the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture
If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:
the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture
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I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.
– Colin Fine
yesterday
Also, sixties and nineties
– Lambie
yesterday
“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday