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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.



However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house



Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house










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  • I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

    – Colin Fine
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  • Also, sixties and nineties

    – Lambie
    yesterday











  • “1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.



However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house



Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house










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  • I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

    – Colin Fine
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  • Also, sixties and nineties

    – Lambie
    yesterday











  • “1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    yesterday














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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.



However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house



Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house










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I always put apostrophes before abbreviated decades. Ex: The '60s.



However, what if you want to abbreviate a decade that is also possessive of the word that comes after it? Ex: Classic dance genres spanning from ‘60s soul to ‘90s house



Where does one place the apostrophe in these instances? Or is the only solution to not abbreviate... ex: 1960's soul to 1990's house







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  • I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

    – Colin Fine
    yesterday













  • Also, sixties and nineties

    – Lambie
    yesterday











  • “1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    yesterday



















  • I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

    – Colin Fine
    yesterday













  • Also, sixties and nineties

    – Lambie
    yesterday











  • “1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    yesterday

















I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

– Colin Fine
yesterday







I see no need for an apostrophe either before or after. If you choose to use one or both, that's up to you.

– Colin Fine
yesterday















Also, sixties and nineties

– Lambie
yesterday





Also, sixties and nineties

– Lambie
yesterday













“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday





“1960’s soul to 1990’s house” means “the soul of 1960 to the house of 1990” and ends up sounding like it’s about moving souls into houses, rather than about music.

– Janus Bahs Jacquet
yesterday










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At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.



From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):




years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.




From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):




9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)




From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):




4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.




So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as




1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]




or




sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]




or




1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]




And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:




'60s soul to '90s house




Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in




the '90s' main contribution to popular culture




but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form




the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture




If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:




the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture







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    At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.



    From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):




    years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.




    From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):




    9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)




    From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):




    4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.




    So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as




    1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]




    or




    sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]




    or




    1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]




    And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:




    '60s soul to '90s house




    Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in




    the '90s' main contribution to popular culture




    but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form




    the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture




    If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:




    the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture







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      At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.



      From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):




      years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.




      From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):




      9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)




      From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):




      4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.




      So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as




      1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]




      or




      sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]




      or




      1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]




      And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:




      '60s soul to '90s house




      Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in




      the '90s' main contribution to popular culture




      but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form




      the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture




      If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:




      the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture







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        At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.



        From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):




        years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.




        From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):




        9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)




        From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):




        4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.




        So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as




        1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]




        or




        sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]




        or




        1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]




        And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:




        '60s soul to '90s house




        Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in




        the '90s' main contribution to popular culture




        but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form




        the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture




        If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:




        the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture







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        At least in the case of "1960's soul to 1990's house," I share Colin Fine's view that you don't need an apostrophe at all. Some style guides undoubtedly differ on this matter of punctuation—as they do on many others—but a number of major style guides the oppose using an apostrophe before the s in decades or centuries rendered as numerals.



        From The Associated Press Stylebook (2007):




        years ... Use an s without an apostrophe to indicate the span of decades or centuries: the 1890s, the 1800s.




        From The Chicago Manual of Style, sixteenth edition (2010):




        9.34 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. Chicago calls for no apostrophe to appear between the year and the s. [Examples:] the nineties [and] the 1980s and 1990s (or, less formally, the 1980s and '90s)




        From The Oxford Guide to Style (2002):




        4.1.6 Geological periods and events ... To denote simple ten-year spans OUP style prefers, for example, 1920s or 1960s to nineteen-twenties or nineteen-sixties. To denote decades of a specific character (say the Roaring Twenties or the Swinging Sixties) OUP prefers Twenties or Sixties to '20s or '60s.




        So, depending on which of these three style guides you happened to be following, you would render your example phrase as




        1960s soul to 1990s house [AP style]




        or




        sixties soul to nineties house or 1960s soul to 1990s house or, less formally, '60s soul to '90s house [Chicago style]




        or




        1960s soul to 1990s house [Oxford style]




        And even if you choose what Chicago calls the less formal approach of shortening decades with apostrophes, there is no ambiguity in the result:




        '60s soul to '90s house




        Of course, it is possible to construct a phrase where a true possessive form of a decade is necessary, as in




        the '90s' main contribution to popular culture




        but all three style guides cited above would enable you to minimize the possibility of a misreading of the punctuation by using the form




        the 1990s' main contribution to popular culture




        If you refuse to abandon your personal preference for '90s, the only way you can avoid subjecting your readers to needlessly ambiguous punctuation is to recast the phrase:




        the main contribution of the '90s to popular culture








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