It is supposed that
Could someone say if I understand the phrase "it is supposed that" right?
For example:
It is supposed that tigers don't like swimming in water.
I understand this sentence like there's some random group of people or any random person on Earth who think/believe that tigers don't like swimming in water.
Is my understanding correct?
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Could someone say if I understand the phrase "it is supposed that" right?
For example:
It is supposed that tigers don't like swimming in water.
I understand this sentence like there's some random group of people or any random person on Earth who think/believe that tigers don't like swimming in water.
Is my understanding correct?
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The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
– Nigel J
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Could someone say if I understand the phrase "it is supposed that" right?
For example:
It is supposed that tigers don't like swimming in water.
I understand this sentence like there's some random group of people or any random person on Earth who think/believe that tigers don't like swimming in water.
Is my understanding correct?
meaning phrase-meaning sentence-meaning
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Could someone say if I understand the phrase "it is supposed that" right?
For example:
It is supposed that tigers don't like swimming in water.
I understand this sentence like there's some random group of people or any random person on Earth who think/believe that tigers don't like swimming in water.
Is my understanding correct?
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The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
– Nigel J
2 days ago
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The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
– Nigel J
2 days ago
The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
– Nigel J
2 days ago
The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
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You're at least close to right.
The "is supposed" construction is in the present tense, passive voice, indefinite aspect and indicative mode. The passive voice clause "it is supposed that tigers don't like swimming" can be cast in the active voice: "someone supposes that tigers don't like swimming". In the passive voice, the subject represents a semantic theme. In the active, the subject represents a semantic agent.
Even in the passive voice, the existence of some agent is implied. There's nothing necessarily random about this agent. The agent is simply unspecified. An indeterminate number of unidentified people suppose that tigers don't like swimming.
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
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The meaning behind this phrase is that most people hold this idea. So it isn't just any random group of people or a random person, it is instead the majority that thinks so. This is because the passive voice, which is used in this sentence, leaves out the subject. However the active voice of this sentence would be People suppose that..., so it refers to people in general. Similar constructions are for example it is believed that or it is assumed that, and they all state that people just share some opinion in general.
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Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
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You're at least close to right.
The "is supposed" construction is in the present tense, passive voice, indefinite aspect and indicative mode. The passive voice clause "it is supposed that tigers don't like swimming" can be cast in the active voice: "someone supposes that tigers don't like swimming". In the passive voice, the subject represents a semantic theme. In the active, the subject represents a semantic agent.
Even in the passive voice, the existence of some agent is implied. There's nothing necessarily random about this agent. The agent is simply unspecified. An indeterminate number of unidentified people suppose that tigers don't like swimming.
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
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You're at least close to right.
The "is supposed" construction is in the present tense, passive voice, indefinite aspect and indicative mode. The passive voice clause "it is supposed that tigers don't like swimming" can be cast in the active voice: "someone supposes that tigers don't like swimming". In the passive voice, the subject represents a semantic theme. In the active, the subject represents a semantic agent.
Even in the passive voice, the existence of some agent is implied. There's nothing necessarily random about this agent. The agent is simply unspecified. An indeterminate number of unidentified people suppose that tigers don't like swimming.
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
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You're at least close to right.
The "is supposed" construction is in the present tense, passive voice, indefinite aspect and indicative mode. The passive voice clause "it is supposed that tigers don't like swimming" can be cast in the active voice: "someone supposes that tigers don't like swimming". In the passive voice, the subject represents a semantic theme. In the active, the subject represents a semantic agent.
Even in the passive voice, the existence of some agent is implied. There's nothing necessarily random about this agent. The agent is simply unspecified. An indeterminate number of unidentified people suppose that tigers don't like swimming.
You're at least close to right.
The "is supposed" construction is in the present tense, passive voice, indefinite aspect and indicative mode. The passive voice clause "it is supposed that tigers don't like swimming" can be cast in the active voice: "someone supposes that tigers don't like swimming". In the passive voice, the subject represents a semantic theme. In the active, the subject represents a semantic agent.
Even in the passive voice, the existence of some agent is implied. There's nothing necessarily random about this agent. The agent is simply unspecified. An indeterminate number of unidentified people suppose that tigers don't like swimming.
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Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
add a comment |
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Thank you so much for answering my question! Do you mean by "can be cast" something like "can be changed/modified"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Oh, yes, sorry. I'm using the sense of to cast that means to express in a particular form. The phrasing "can be transformed into an active voice representation" means the same thing.
– Gary Botnovcan
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
Thank you again for your explanation :) I had no idea that "to cast" has this meaning, haha. Thanks again.
– Czup
2 days ago
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The meaning behind this phrase is that most people hold this idea. So it isn't just any random group of people or a random person, it is instead the majority that thinks so. This is because the passive voice, which is used in this sentence, leaves out the subject. However the active voice of this sentence would be People suppose that..., so it refers to people in general. Similar constructions are for example it is believed that or it is assumed that, and they all state that people just share some opinion in general.
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Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
– Czup
2 days ago
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The meaning behind this phrase is that most people hold this idea. So it isn't just any random group of people or a random person, it is instead the majority that thinks so. This is because the passive voice, which is used in this sentence, leaves out the subject. However the active voice of this sentence would be People suppose that..., so it refers to people in general. Similar constructions are for example it is believed that or it is assumed that, and they all state that people just share some opinion in general.
New contributor
Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
– Czup
2 days ago
add a comment |
The meaning behind this phrase is that most people hold this idea. So it isn't just any random group of people or a random person, it is instead the majority that thinks so. This is because the passive voice, which is used in this sentence, leaves out the subject. However the active voice of this sentence would be People suppose that..., so it refers to people in general. Similar constructions are for example it is believed that or it is assumed that, and they all state that people just share some opinion in general.
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The meaning behind this phrase is that most people hold this idea. So it isn't just any random group of people or a random person, it is instead the majority that thinks so. This is because the passive voice, which is used in this sentence, leaves out the subject. However the active voice of this sentence would be People suppose that..., so it refers to people in general. Similar constructions are for example it is believed that or it is assumed that, and they all state that people just share some opinion in general.
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Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
– Czup
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Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
– Czup
2 days ago
Thank you for your quick response, tyler1! :) Does "most people hold this idea" mean "most people believe/think that this is true"?
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The idiomatic English expression is 'Tigers are not supposed to like swimming in water'. Your own expression is too definite . . . 'it is supposed'. And by stating the passive as you have done, the question arises - by whom ? But the idiomatic expression allows for the supposition being incorrect and also does not draw attention to any particular subject as the supposer. This is actually a very good question about the English way of expressing the passive. Up-voted +1.
– Nigel J
2 days ago