Macros dv and pdv eat the subsequent parenthesis argument
The physics package
has the macros dv
and pdv
which are great but I have a small problem with them.
If an argument with parenthesis included right after them they eat the whole argument. If there is a space in between the argument everything works fine but I want to prevent this happening all together. I checked the documentation but couldn't find a solution. So an example would be
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
I want the output of the equation on the left to be the same as the middle one.
brackets physics
add a comment |
The physics package
has the macros dv
and pdv
which are great but I have a small problem with them.
If an argument with parenthesis included right after them they eat the whole argument. If there is a space in between the argument everything works fine but I want to prevent this happening all together. I checked the documentation but couldn't find a solution. So an example would be
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
I want the output of the equation on the left to be the same as the middle one.
brackets physics
1
I cannot recommend using thephysics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over toamsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about howev
is defined
– Calvin Kent
2 days ago
add a comment |
The physics package
has the macros dv
and pdv
which are great but I have a small problem with them.
If an argument with parenthesis included right after them they eat the whole argument. If there is a space in between the argument everything works fine but I want to prevent this happening all together. I checked the documentation but couldn't find a solution. So an example would be
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
I want the output of the equation on the left to be the same as the middle one.
brackets physics
The physics package
has the macros dv
and pdv
which are great but I have a small problem with them.
If an argument with parenthesis included right after them they eat the whole argument. If there is a space in between the argument everything works fine but I want to prevent this happening all together. I checked the documentation but couldn't find a solution. So an example would be
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
I want the output of the equation on the left to be the same as the middle one.
brackets physics
brackets physics
edited 2 days ago
Bernard
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asked 2 days ago
Calvin KentCalvin Kent
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807
1
I cannot recommend using thephysics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over toamsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about howev
is defined
– Calvin Kent
2 days ago
add a comment |
1
I cannot recommend using thephysics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over toamsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about howev
is defined
– Calvin Kent
2 days ago
1
1
I cannot recommend using the
physics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274– Henri Menke
2 days ago
I cannot recommend using the
physics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274– Henri Menke
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over to
amsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about how ev
is defined– Calvin Kent
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over to
amsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about how ev
is defined– Calvin Kent
2 days ago
add a comment |
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That's because dv
(which is a shorthand for derivative
) is defined as
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
Even if the optional g
-type argument is given (as in your case) the command will scan further for an optional delimited d
-type argument which is delimited by (
and )
(maybe not the best choice in a mathematical context). To circumvent this you have to redefine derivative
to always flush #5
if it is present.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
IfBooleanTF{#1}
{letfractypeflatfrac}
{letfractypefrac}
IfNoValueTF{#4}
{
IfNoValueTF{#5}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}} argopen(#5argclose)}
}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}} #3}{diffd #4IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}IfValueT{#5}{(#5)}}
}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
At the same time I'd like to note that the physics
package does not really help me writing physics formulae and I'm usually much better off typing the stuff by hand using the amsmath
macros.
1
partialderivative
and thereforepdv
will probably have the same problem.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
The package physics
abuses the possibilities afforded by xparse
to define commands having very weird syntax.
For instance, if you want to typeset the standard frac{dx}{dt}
, you have to type
dv{x}{t}
If you want instead frac{d}{dt}(f(t))
you type
dv{t}(f(t))
which is where the syntax is weird: the variable you differentiate with respect to is no longer the second mandatory argument, but the first and a mandatory argument is missing altogether.
Of course this is achieved by actually making the second braced argument optional, which breaks all standard LaTeX conventions.
It is very counterintuitive having the independent variable first when the “long form” is desired and second for the “short (Leibniz) form”.
How can you do? My best advice is to keep at arm's length from physics
. It seems to provide many bells and whistles for typesetting math, but this is at the expense of syntax clarity.
If you are tied to the package, simply add a no-op; a simple one in this context is /
:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[
dv{x}{t}/(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}/ (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}
]
end{document}
add a comment |
Renewing the commands in this way probably does it:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
renewcommanddv[2]{derivative{#1}{#2}{}}
renewcommandpdv[3]{partialderivative{#1}{#2}{#3}{}}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
[pdv{x}{t}{z}(y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} (y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} ]
end{document}
like this:
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
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That's because dv
(which is a shorthand for derivative
) is defined as
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
Even if the optional g
-type argument is given (as in your case) the command will scan further for an optional delimited d
-type argument which is delimited by (
and )
(maybe not the best choice in a mathematical context). To circumvent this you have to redefine derivative
to always flush #5
if it is present.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
IfBooleanTF{#1}
{letfractypeflatfrac}
{letfractypefrac}
IfNoValueTF{#4}
{
IfNoValueTF{#5}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}} argopen(#5argclose)}
}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}} #3}{diffd #4IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}IfValueT{#5}{(#5)}}
}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
At the same time I'd like to note that the physics
package does not really help me writing physics formulae and I'm usually much better off typing the stuff by hand using the amsmath
macros.
1
partialderivative
and thereforepdv
will probably have the same problem.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
That's because dv
(which is a shorthand for derivative
) is defined as
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
Even if the optional g
-type argument is given (as in your case) the command will scan further for an optional delimited d
-type argument which is delimited by (
and )
(maybe not the best choice in a mathematical context). To circumvent this you have to redefine derivative
to always flush #5
if it is present.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
IfBooleanTF{#1}
{letfractypeflatfrac}
{letfractypefrac}
IfNoValueTF{#4}
{
IfNoValueTF{#5}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}} argopen(#5argclose)}
}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}} #3}{diffd #4IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}IfValueT{#5}{(#5)}}
}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
At the same time I'd like to note that the physics
package does not really help me writing physics formulae and I'm usually much better off typing the stuff by hand using the amsmath
macros.
1
partialderivative
and thereforepdv
will probably have the same problem.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
That's because dv
(which is a shorthand for derivative
) is defined as
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
Even if the optional g
-type argument is given (as in your case) the command will scan further for an optional delimited d
-type argument which is delimited by (
and )
(maybe not the best choice in a mathematical context). To circumvent this you have to redefine derivative
to always flush #5
if it is present.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
IfBooleanTF{#1}
{letfractypeflatfrac}
{letfractypefrac}
IfNoValueTF{#4}
{
IfNoValueTF{#5}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}} argopen(#5argclose)}
}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}} #3}{diffd #4IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}IfValueT{#5}{(#5)}}
}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
At the same time I'd like to note that the physics
package does not really help me writing physics formulae and I'm usually much better off typing the stuff by hand using the amsmath
macros.
That's because dv
(which is a shorthand for derivative
) is defined as
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
Even if the optional g
-type argument is given (as in your case) the command will scan further for an optional delimited d
-type argument which is delimited by (
and )
(maybe not the best choice in a mathematical context). To circumvent this you have to redefine derivative
to always flush #5
if it is present.
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
DeclareDocumentCommandderivative{ s o m g d() }
{ % Total derivative
% s: star for flatfrac flat derivative
% o: optional n for nth derivative
% m: mandatory (x in df/dx)
% g: optional (f in df/dx)
% d: long-form d/dx(...)
IfBooleanTF{#1}
{letfractypeflatfrac}
{letfractypefrac}
IfNoValueTF{#4}
{
IfNoValueTF{#5}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}{diffd #3IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}} argopen(#5argclose)}
}
{fractype{diffd IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}} #3}{diffd #4IfNoValueTF{#2}{}{^{#2}}}IfValueT{#5}{(#5)}}
}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
end{document}
At the same time I'd like to note that the physics
package does not really help me writing physics formulae and I'm usually much better off typing the stuff by hand using the amsmath
macros.
answered 2 days ago
Henri MenkeHenri Menke
71.4k8158266
71.4k8158266
1
partialderivative
and thereforepdv
will probably have the same problem.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
1
partialderivative
and thereforepdv
will probably have the same problem.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
1
1
partialderivative
and therefore pdv
will probably have the same problem.– Henri Menke
2 days ago
partialderivative
and therefore pdv
will probably have the same problem.– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
The package physics
abuses the possibilities afforded by xparse
to define commands having very weird syntax.
For instance, if you want to typeset the standard frac{dx}{dt}
, you have to type
dv{x}{t}
If you want instead frac{d}{dt}(f(t))
you type
dv{t}(f(t))
which is where the syntax is weird: the variable you differentiate with respect to is no longer the second mandatory argument, but the first and a mandatory argument is missing altogether.
Of course this is achieved by actually making the second braced argument optional, which breaks all standard LaTeX conventions.
It is very counterintuitive having the independent variable first when the “long form” is desired and second for the “short (Leibniz) form”.
How can you do? My best advice is to keep at arm's length from physics
. It seems to provide many bells and whistles for typesetting math, but this is at the expense of syntax clarity.
If you are tied to the package, simply add a no-op; a simple one in this context is /
:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[
dv{x}{t}/(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}/ (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}
]
end{document}
add a comment |
The package physics
abuses the possibilities afforded by xparse
to define commands having very weird syntax.
For instance, if you want to typeset the standard frac{dx}{dt}
, you have to type
dv{x}{t}
If you want instead frac{d}{dt}(f(t))
you type
dv{t}(f(t))
which is where the syntax is weird: the variable you differentiate with respect to is no longer the second mandatory argument, but the first and a mandatory argument is missing altogether.
Of course this is achieved by actually making the second braced argument optional, which breaks all standard LaTeX conventions.
It is very counterintuitive having the independent variable first when the “long form” is desired and second for the “short (Leibniz) form”.
How can you do? My best advice is to keep at arm's length from physics
. It seems to provide many bells and whistles for typesetting math, but this is at the expense of syntax clarity.
If you are tied to the package, simply add a no-op; a simple one in this context is /
:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[
dv{x}{t}/(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}/ (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}
]
end{document}
add a comment |
The package physics
abuses the possibilities afforded by xparse
to define commands having very weird syntax.
For instance, if you want to typeset the standard frac{dx}{dt}
, you have to type
dv{x}{t}
If you want instead frac{d}{dt}(f(t))
you type
dv{t}(f(t))
which is where the syntax is weird: the variable you differentiate with respect to is no longer the second mandatory argument, but the first and a mandatory argument is missing altogether.
Of course this is achieved by actually making the second braced argument optional, which breaks all standard LaTeX conventions.
It is very counterintuitive having the independent variable first when the “long form” is desired and second for the “short (Leibniz) form”.
How can you do? My best advice is to keep at arm's length from physics
. It seems to provide many bells and whistles for typesetting math, but this is at the expense of syntax clarity.
If you are tied to the package, simply add a no-op; a simple one in this context is /
:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[
dv{x}{t}/(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}/ (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}
]
end{document}
The package physics
abuses the possibilities afforded by xparse
to define commands having very weird syntax.
For instance, if you want to typeset the standard frac{dx}{dt}
, you have to type
dv{x}{t}
If you want instead frac{d}{dt}(f(t))
you type
dv{t}(f(t))
which is where the syntax is weird: the variable you differentiate with respect to is no longer the second mandatory argument, but the first and a mandatory argument is missing altogether.
Of course this is achieved by actually making the second braced argument optional, which breaks all standard LaTeX conventions.
It is very counterintuitive having the independent variable first when the “long form” is desired and second for the “short (Leibniz) form”.
How can you do? My best advice is to keep at arm's length from physics
. It seems to provide many bells and whistles for typesetting math, but this is at the expense of syntax clarity.
If you are tied to the package, simply add a no-op; a simple one in this context is /
:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
begin{document}
[
dv{x}{t}/(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}/ (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t}
]
end{document}
answered 2 days ago
egregegreg
714k8618963184
714k8618963184
add a comment |
add a comment |
Renewing the commands in this way probably does it:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
renewcommanddv[2]{derivative{#1}{#2}{}}
renewcommandpdv[3]{partialderivative{#1}{#2}{#3}{}}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
[pdv{x}{t}{z}(y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} (y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} ]
end{document}
like this:
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
Renewing the commands in this way probably does it:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
renewcommanddv[2]{derivative{#1}{#2}{}}
renewcommandpdv[3]{partialderivative{#1}{#2}{#3}{}}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
[pdv{x}{t}{z}(y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} (y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} ]
end{document}
like this:
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
Renewing the commands in this way probably does it:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
renewcommanddv[2]{derivative{#1}{#2}{}}
renewcommandpdv[3]{partialderivative{#1}{#2}{#3}{}}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
[pdv{x}{t}{z}(y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} (y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} ]
end{document}
like this:
Renewing the commands in this way probably does it:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{physics}
renewcommanddv[2]{derivative{#1}{#2}{}}
renewcommandpdv[3]{partialderivative{#1}{#2}{#3}{}}
begin{document}
[dv{x}{t}(y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} (y^2-5) qquad dv{x}{t} ]
[pdv{x}{t}{z}(y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} (y^2-5) qquad pdv{x}{t}{z} ]
end{document}
like this:
answered 2 days ago
Partha D.Partha D.
52316
52316
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
This breaks the starred variants.
– Henri Menke
2 days ago
add a comment |
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I cannot recommend using the
physics
package. See e.g. this post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453274– Henri Menke
2 days ago
@HenriMenke Thanks for your answer below and recommendation. I didn't know anything about the poor practices that were done in physics package. I'll try to switch over to
amsmath
as you suggested, especially after seeing your remarks about howev
is defined– Calvin Kent
2 days ago