What are all 3 pedals in Vanellope's car for?












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When Vanellope is being taught how to drive Ralph is guessing the functions of the 3 pedals in her car. His guesses were:




  • Right: Accelerator

  • Middle: Brake

  • Left: Useless


But when Vanellope is driving by herself after being taught, we see she's only using the Right and Middle pedals and she seems to only use the left pedal when she shifts gears (suggesting it's the brakes?)



So what are all 3 pedals for in Vanellope's car? Or did one get added by mistake?










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    I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

    – Tetsujin
    2 days ago








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    @Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago








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    I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

    – Eric Lippert
    2 days ago






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    @Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

    – Kodos Johnson
    2 days ago






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    @Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

    – Luke Sawczak
    2 days ago
















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When Vanellope is being taught how to drive Ralph is guessing the functions of the 3 pedals in her car. His guesses were:




  • Right: Accelerator

  • Middle: Brake

  • Left: Useless


But when Vanellope is driving by herself after being taught, we see she's only using the Right and Middle pedals and she seems to only use the left pedal when she shifts gears (suggesting it's the brakes?)



So what are all 3 pedals for in Vanellope's car? Or did one get added by mistake?










share|improve this question




















  • 74





    I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

    – Tetsujin
    2 days ago








  • 3





    @Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago








  • 5





    I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

    – Eric Lippert
    2 days ago






  • 1





    @Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

    – Kodos Johnson
    2 days ago






  • 2





    @Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

    – Luke Sawczak
    2 days ago














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When Vanellope is being taught how to drive Ralph is guessing the functions of the 3 pedals in her car. His guesses were:




  • Right: Accelerator

  • Middle: Brake

  • Left: Useless


But when Vanellope is driving by herself after being taught, we see she's only using the Right and Middle pedals and she seems to only use the left pedal when she shifts gears (suggesting it's the brakes?)



So what are all 3 pedals for in Vanellope's car? Or did one get added by mistake?










share|improve this question
















When Vanellope is being taught how to drive Ralph is guessing the functions of the 3 pedals in her car. His guesses were:




  • Right: Accelerator

  • Middle: Brake

  • Left: Useless


But when Vanellope is driving by herself after being taught, we see she's only using the Right and Middle pedals and she seems to only use the left pedal when she shifts gears (suggesting it's the brakes?)



So what are all 3 pedals for in Vanellope's car? Or did one get added by mistake?







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  • 74





    I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

    – Tetsujin
    2 days ago








  • 3





    @Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago








  • 5





    I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

    – Eric Lippert
    2 days ago






  • 1





    @Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

    – Kodos Johnson
    2 days ago






  • 2





    @Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

    – Luke Sawczak
    2 days ago














  • 74





    I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

    – Tetsujin
    2 days ago








  • 3





    @Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago








  • 5





    I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

    – Eric Lippert
    2 days ago






  • 1





    @Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

    – Kodos Johnson
    2 days ago






  • 2





    @Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

    – Luke Sawczak
    2 days ago








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I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

– Tetsujin
2 days ago







I honestly can't get over just how weird this question is. Are there really some countries with no manual boxes, all autos??

– Tetsujin
2 days ago






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@Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

– Memor-X
2 days ago







@Tetsujin in Australia there are still manuals but i never learned to drive one (and thus only licenced to drive an auto). when i see in movies people's cars jerking while changing gears (as they learned to drive) i thought they were applying the break as they changed gears

– Memor-X
2 days ago






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I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

– Eric Lippert
2 days ago





I suspect the line in the movie was also a subtle joke. In a lot of arcade racing games, you can put them into a mode where you don't have to clutch to shift, which makes the third pedal literally useless.

– Eric Lippert
2 days ago




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@Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

– Kodos Johnson
2 days ago





@Tetsujin I would say automatic transmission cars are pretty dominant in the US so I'm not surprised when people see a clutch pedal and don't know what it is.

– Kodos Johnson
2 days ago




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@Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

– Luke Sawczak
2 days ago





@Memor-X Such people are changing gears at the wrong RPM :)

– Luke Sawczak
2 days ago










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Someone doesn't drive stick...:)



The third pedal is the foot clutch and is only used when changing gears in a manual transmission automobile.




A clutch is two metal plates in the engine. When you press the clutch pedal down the plates come apart separating the engine from the drive wheels allowing you to change gear. Bringing the pedal back up re-engages the plates which in turn connect the engine to the drive wheels.



Quora




Also - http://www.drivinghelp.com/Pages/Controls_Pedals






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    so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago






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    That's correct.

    – Paulie_D
    2 days ago











  • Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

    – DJohnM
    2 days ago











  • @Memor-X "brake", not "break".

    – Roger Lipscombe
    yesterday



















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Because Vanellope is from a car racing game, where, unsurprisingly, they drive race cars.



High performance cars classically used manual transmissions, because the human can make better decisions about when to shift gears than a computer can*, and the difference is plenty enough to be the deciding factor in winning races.



You may know that engines perform best in a certain range of engine speed, and that is not proportional to the road speeds. That is why cars have a number of gears like a bicycle. That's not the pedal, that's the stick between the seats. To match up engine speed to the gear you are changing into, automatics handle that with a hydraulic coupling... but on a manual, there's a gadget that allows thedriver to select a certain amount of "slip" between engine and transmission. That's what the left pedal does.





* least of all a hydraulic computer as would be in a non-computerized performance car, such as the THM350 or 700R4 loved by hotrodders who want automatics.



Cool 80’s story: There were two truly excellent brands of automatic transmission, ZF and Hydra-Matic. The latter is General Motors, yes really - any random Chevy got a world-class automatic. Once Rolls-Royce gave a trial to the Hydra-Matic. It ran fantastic, exactly what they wanted. But they did a tear-down and found a bunch of rough castings inside the hydraulic computer (valve body). Fine for a Chevy, but hardly up to Rolls standards! So they painstakingly cleaned up all the rough casting ripples and marks and made it look fantastic. Reassembled it, and suddenly it shifted badly. The mechanics were losing their minds, what did they do wrong reassembling it? They asked GM. GM said "You smoothed the valve body!? We deliberately leave the casting rough to crate turbulence to the hydraulic flow. No wonder."






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    Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

    – Pete Kirkham
    2 days ago






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    Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

    – Sean
    2 days ago






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    I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








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    Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








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    @Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

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Someone doesn't drive stick...:)



The third pedal is the foot clutch and is only used when changing gears in a manual transmission automobile.




A clutch is two metal plates in the engine. When you press the clutch pedal down the plates come apart separating the engine from the drive wheels allowing you to change gear. Bringing the pedal back up re-engages the plates which in turn connect the engine to the drive wheels.



Quora




Also - http://www.drivinghelp.com/Pages/Controls_Pedals






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    so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago






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    That's correct.

    – Paulie_D
    2 days ago











  • Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

    – DJohnM
    2 days ago











  • @Memor-X "brake", not "break".

    – Roger Lipscombe
    yesterday
















63














Someone doesn't drive stick...:)



The third pedal is the foot clutch and is only used when changing gears in a manual transmission automobile.




A clutch is two metal plates in the engine. When you press the clutch pedal down the plates come apart separating the engine from the drive wheels allowing you to change gear. Bringing the pedal back up re-engages the plates which in turn connect the engine to the drive wheels.



Quora




Also - http://www.drivinghelp.com/Pages/Controls_Pedals






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  • 1





    so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago






  • 1





    That's correct.

    – Paulie_D
    2 days ago











  • Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

    – DJohnM
    2 days ago











  • @Memor-X "brake", not "break".

    – Roger Lipscombe
    yesterday














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63







Someone doesn't drive stick...:)



The third pedal is the foot clutch and is only used when changing gears in a manual transmission automobile.




A clutch is two metal plates in the engine. When you press the clutch pedal down the plates come apart separating the engine from the drive wheels allowing you to change gear. Bringing the pedal back up re-engages the plates which in turn connect the engine to the drive wheels.



Quora




Also - http://www.drivinghelp.com/Pages/Controls_Pedals






share|improve this answer















Someone doesn't drive stick...:)



The third pedal is the foot clutch and is only used when changing gears in a manual transmission automobile.




A clutch is two metal plates in the engine. When you press the clutch pedal down the plates come apart separating the engine from the drive wheels allowing you to change gear. Bringing the pedal back up re-engages the plates which in turn connect the engine to the drive wheels.



Quora




Also - http://www.drivinghelp.com/Pages/Controls_Pedals







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  • 1





    so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago






  • 1





    That's correct.

    – Paulie_D
    2 days ago











  • Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

    – DJohnM
    2 days ago











  • @Memor-X "brake", not "break".

    – Roger Lipscombe
    yesterday














  • 1





    so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

    – Memor-X
    2 days ago






  • 1





    That's correct.

    – Paulie_D
    2 days ago











  • Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

    – DJohnM
    2 days ago











  • @Memor-X "brake", not "break".

    – Roger Lipscombe
    yesterday








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so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

– Memor-X
2 days ago





so when we see vanellope uses the left pedal, she's using the foot clutch? so then the middle is the break as Ralph guessed

– Memor-X
2 days ago




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That's correct.

– Paulie_D
2 days ago





That's correct.

– Paulie_D
2 days ago













Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

– DJohnM
2 days ago





Spock also has some helpful advice; go here ("A Piece of the Action, STOS") chakoteya.net/StarTrek/49.htm and search for clutch

– DJohnM
2 days ago













@Memor-X "brake", not "break".

– Roger Lipscombe
yesterday





@Memor-X "brake", not "break".

– Roger Lipscombe
yesterday











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Because Vanellope is from a car racing game, where, unsurprisingly, they drive race cars.



High performance cars classically used manual transmissions, because the human can make better decisions about when to shift gears than a computer can*, and the difference is plenty enough to be the deciding factor in winning races.



You may know that engines perform best in a certain range of engine speed, and that is not proportional to the road speeds. That is why cars have a number of gears like a bicycle. That's not the pedal, that's the stick between the seats. To match up engine speed to the gear you are changing into, automatics handle that with a hydraulic coupling... but on a manual, there's a gadget that allows thedriver to select a certain amount of "slip" between engine and transmission. That's what the left pedal does.





* least of all a hydraulic computer as would be in a non-computerized performance car, such as the THM350 or 700R4 loved by hotrodders who want automatics.



Cool 80’s story: There were two truly excellent brands of automatic transmission, ZF and Hydra-Matic. The latter is General Motors, yes really - any random Chevy got a world-class automatic. Once Rolls-Royce gave a trial to the Hydra-Matic. It ran fantastic, exactly what they wanted. But they did a tear-down and found a bunch of rough castings inside the hydraulic computer (valve body). Fine for a Chevy, but hardly up to Rolls standards! So they painstakingly cleaned up all the rough casting ripples and marks and made it look fantastic. Reassembled it, and suddenly it shifted badly. The mechanics were losing their minds, what did they do wrong reassembling it? They asked GM. GM said "You smoothed the valve body!? We deliberately leave the casting rough to crate turbulence to the hydraulic flow. No wonder."






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  • 6





    Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

    – Pete Kirkham
    2 days ago






  • 2





    Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

    – Sean
    2 days ago






  • 1





    I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








  • 2





    Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








  • 4





    @Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

    – vsz
    yesterday


















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Because Vanellope is from a car racing game, where, unsurprisingly, they drive race cars.



High performance cars classically used manual transmissions, because the human can make better decisions about when to shift gears than a computer can*, and the difference is plenty enough to be the deciding factor in winning races.



You may know that engines perform best in a certain range of engine speed, and that is not proportional to the road speeds. That is why cars have a number of gears like a bicycle. That's not the pedal, that's the stick between the seats. To match up engine speed to the gear you are changing into, automatics handle that with a hydraulic coupling... but on a manual, there's a gadget that allows thedriver to select a certain amount of "slip" between engine and transmission. That's what the left pedal does.





* least of all a hydraulic computer as would be in a non-computerized performance car, such as the THM350 or 700R4 loved by hotrodders who want automatics.



Cool 80’s story: There were two truly excellent brands of automatic transmission, ZF and Hydra-Matic. The latter is General Motors, yes really - any random Chevy got a world-class automatic. Once Rolls-Royce gave a trial to the Hydra-Matic. It ran fantastic, exactly what they wanted. But they did a tear-down and found a bunch of rough castings inside the hydraulic computer (valve body). Fine for a Chevy, but hardly up to Rolls standards! So they painstakingly cleaned up all the rough casting ripples and marks and made it look fantastic. Reassembled it, and suddenly it shifted badly. The mechanics were losing their minds, what did they do wrong reassembling it? They asked GM. GM said "You smoothed the valve body!? We deliberately leave the casting rough to crate turbulence to the hydraulic flow. No wonder."






share|improve this answer





















  • 6





    Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

    – Pete Kirkham
    2 days ago






  • 2





    Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

    – Sean
    2 days ago






  • 1





    I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








  • 2





    Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








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    @Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

    – vsz
    yesterday
















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Because Vanellope is from a car racing game, where, unsurprisingly, they drive race cars.



High performance cars classically used manual transmissions, because the human can make better decisions about when to shift gears than a computer can*, and the difference is plenty enough to be the deciding factor in winning races.



You may know that engines perform best in a certain range of engine speed, and that is not proportional to the road speeds. That is why cars have a number of gears like a bicycle. That's not the pedal, that's the stick between the seats. To match up engine speed to the gear you are changing into, automatics handle that with a hydraulic coupling... but on a manual, there's a gadget that allows thedriver to select a certain amount of "slip" between engine and transmission. That's what the left pedal does.





* least of all a hydraulic computer as would be in a non-computerized performance car, such as the THM350 or 700R4 loved by hotrodders who want automatics.



Cool 80’s story: There were two truly excellent brands of automatic transmission, ZF and Hydra-Matic. The latter is General Motors, yes really - any random Chevy got a world-class automatic. Once Rolls-Royce gave a trial to the Hydra-Matic. It ran fantastic, exactly what they wanted. But they did a tear-down and found a bunch of rough castings inside the hydraulic computer (valve body). Fine for a Chevy, but hardly up to Rolls standards! So they painstakingly cleaned up all the rough casting ripples and marks and made it look fantastic. Reassembled it, and suddenly it shifted badly. The mechanics were losing their minds, what did they do wrong reassembling it? They asked GM. GM said "You smoothed the valve body!? We deliberately leave the casting rough to crate turbulence to the hydraulic flow. No wonder."






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Because Vanellope is from a car racing game, where, unsurprisingly, they drive race cars.



High performance cars classically used manual transmissions, because the human can make better decisions about when to shift gears than a computer can*, and the difference is plenty enough to be the deciding factor in winning races.



You may know that engines perform best in a certain range of engine speed, and that is not proportional to the road speeds. That is why cars have a number of gears like a bicycle. That's not the pedal, that's the stick between the seats. To match up engine speed to the gear you are changing into, automatics handle that with a hydraulic coupling... but on a manual, there's a gadget that allows thedriver to select a certain amount of "slip" between engine and transmission. That's what the left pedal does.





* least of all a hydraulic computer as would be in a non-computerized performance car, such as the THM350 or 700R4 loved by hotrodders who want automatics.



Cool 80’s story: There were two truly excellent brands of automatic transmission, ZF and Hydra-Matic. The latter is General Motors, yes really - any random Chevy got a world-class automatic. Once Rolls-Royce gave a trial to the Hydra-Matic. It ran fantastic, exactly what they wanted. But they did a tear-down and found a bunch of rough castings inside the hydraulic computer (valve body). Fine for a Chevy, but hardly up to Rolls standards! So they painstakingly cleaned up all the rough casting ripples and marks and made it look fantastic. Reassembled it, and suddenly it shifted badly. The mechanics were losing their minds, what did they do wrong reassembling it? They asked GM. GM said "You smoothed the valve body!? We deliberately leave the casting rough to crate turbulence to the hydraulic flow. No wonder."







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  • 6





    Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

    – Pete Kirkham
    2 days ago






  • 2





    Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

    – Sean
    2 days ago






  • 1





    I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








  • 2





    Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








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    @Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

    – vsz
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    Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

    – Pete Kirkham
    2 days ago






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    Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

    – Sean
    2 days ago






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    I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








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    Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

    – Obie 2.0
    yesterday








  • 4





    @Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

    – vsz
    yesterday










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Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

– Pete Kirkham
2 days ago





Trying hard to think of a high performance car which still uses a manual clutch with a pedal - paddle based sequential shift seems ubiquitous.

– Pete Kirkham
2 days ago




2




2





Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

– Sean
2 days ago





Of course, nowadays the situation's reversed (a modern car's computer knows when to shift better than the driver does, and this also lets the driver concentrate on driving rather than having to shift gears every so often).

– Sean
2 days ago




1




1





I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

– Obie 2.0
yesterday







I mean, a computer can beat the best humans in chess. It can also drive cars with fewer accidents and mistakes than a human in areas much more complicated than a race track. I'd be a little surprised if it couldn't implement a heuristic that outperformed humans at figuring out when to shift gears in racing. Whether anyone has done the research necessary to develop such an algorithm, of course, is another question....

– Obie 2.0
yesterday






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2





Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

– Obie 2.0
yesterday







Of course a fully computer-controlled race car vs. a human-controlled car would hardly be fair in any case. The computer weights less. ;)

– Obie 2.0
yesterday






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4





@Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

– vsz
yesterday







@Obie2.0 : But the computer cannot guess the driver's intention what to do next, so there are still some situations where the driver knows best, simply because the computer not having all the information. Chess is not a good example. Using such an example, I could say that machines could beat humans in tug-of-war more than 200 years ago, and this must mean they are better at everything.

– vsz
yesterday





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