Coworker is trying to get me to sign his petition to run for office. How to decline politely?












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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.



So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?










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    I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

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  • Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

    – sf02
    5 hours ago






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    Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?

    – alroc
    4 hours ago


















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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.



So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?










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    I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

    – tweray
    5 hours ago













  • Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

    – sf02
    5 hours ago






  • 2





    Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?

    – alroc
    4 hours ago
















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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.



So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?










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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.



So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?







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  • 4





    I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

    – tweray
    5 hours ago













  • Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

    – sf02
    5 hours ago






  • 2





    Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?

    – alroc
    4 hours ago
















  • 4





    I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

    – tweray
    5 hours ago













  • Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








  • 5





    Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

    – sf02
    5 hours ago






  • 2





    Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago








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    Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?

    – alroc
    4 hours ago










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I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

– tweray
5 hours ago







I can't currently sign it, be (somehow) straightforward next time and tell him you are not interested at all, citing that you don't like politics in workplace, and call it a day. If the he continues bothering you by this, you need to be prepared to escalate it to your manager and HR because that's just blatant harassment from this point on.

– tweray
5 hours ago















Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago







Hey Pelican, could you expand on what is to "run for local office"? What is your location? Is this run for some Politics candidacy? (Like, major, or senator, etc?) or is it some position within your company? ... (If it's the former, then the use of the politics tag is out of place, as it does not refer to company politics)... I suspect it's the former, but as a non-US reader this confused me a bit

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago






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Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

– sf02
5 hours ago





Have you tried "no, thanks" ?

– sf02
5 hours ago




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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago







Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.

– DarkCygnus
5 hours ago






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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?

– alroc
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Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!



In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):




Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:




Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.






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  • Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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Something like this might work:




I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.







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    This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

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  • Pretty much perfect answer.

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    You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

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    @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

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    3 hours ago






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    @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

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What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.



By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.




So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?




You say "I won't ever sign it".






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    I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

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    I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

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  • @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

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Just say:




No, thanks. But good luck!




That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.




No, thanks.







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  • You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

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  • Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

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I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.






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    Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!



    In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):




    Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:




    Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.






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    • Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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    Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!



    In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):




    Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:




    Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.






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    • Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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    Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!



    In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):




    Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:




    Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.






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    Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!



    In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):




    Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:




    Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.




    If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.







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    • Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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    • Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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    Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

    – jpmc26
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    Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.

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    Something like this might work:




    I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.







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      This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

      – Upper_Case
      4 hours ago











    • Pretty much perfect answer.

      – Fattie
      4 hours ago






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      You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

      – alephzero
      3 hours ago






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      @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

      – Aaron
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

      – Aaron
      2 hours ago
















    14














    Something like this might work:




    I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.







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      This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

      – Upper_Case
      4 hours ago











    • Pretty much perfect answer.

      – Fattie
      4 hours ago






    • 1





      You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

      – alephzero
      3 hours ago






    • 2





      @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

      – Aaron
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

      – Aaron
      2 hours ago














    14












    14








    14







    Something like this might work:




    I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.







    share|improve this answer













    Something like this might work:




    I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.








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    • 17





      This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

      – Upper_Case
      4 hours ago











    • Pretty much perfect answer.

      – Fattie
      4 hours ago






    • 1





      You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

      – alephzero
      3 hours ago






    • 2





      @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

      – Aaron
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

      – Aaron
      2 hours ago














    • 17





      This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

      – Upper_Case
      4 hours ago











    • Pretty much perfect answer.

      – Fattie
      4 hours ago






    • 1





      You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

      – alephzero
      3 hours ago






    • 2





      @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

      – Aaron
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

      – Aaron
      2 hours ago








    17




    17





    This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

    – Upper_Case
    4 hours ago





    This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.

    – Upper_Case
    4 hours ago













    Pretty much perfect answer.

    – Fattie
    4 hours ago





    Pretty much perfect answer.

    – Fattie
    4 hours ago




    1




    1





    You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

    – alephzero
    3 hours ago





    You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.

    – alephzero
    3 hours ago




    2




    2





    @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

    – Aaron
    3 hours ago





    @Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."

    – Aaron
    3 hours ago




    1




    1





    @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

    – Aaron
    2 hours ago





    @Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).

    – Aaron
    2 hours ago











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    What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.



    By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.




    So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?




    You say "I won't ever sign it".






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    • 3





      I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

      – DarkCygnus
      5 hours ago






    • 11





      I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

      – Monica Cellio
      5 hours ago











    • @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

      – jpmc26
      33 mins ago


















    12














    What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.



    By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.




    So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?




    You say "I won't ever sign it".






    share|improve this answer





















    • 3





      I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

      – DarkCygnus
      5 hours ago






    • 11





      I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

      – Monica Cellio
      5 hours ago











    • @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

      – jpmc26
      33 mins ago
















    12












    12








    12







    What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.



    By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.




    So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?




    You say "I won't ever sign it".






    share|improve this answer















    What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.



    By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.




    So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?




    You say "I won't ever sign it".







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    • 3





      I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

      – DarkCygnus
      5 hours ago






    • 11





      I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

      – Monica Cellio
      5 hours ago











    • @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

      – jpmc26
      33 mins ago
















    • 3





      I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

      – DarkCygnus
      5 hours ago






    • 11





      I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

      – Monica Cellio
      5 hours ago











    • @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

      – jpmc26
      33 mins ago










    3




    3





    I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago





    I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?

    – DarkCygnus
    5 hours ago




    11




    11





    I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

    – Monica Cellio
    5 hours ago





    I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.

    – Monica Cellio
    5 hours ago













    @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

    – jpmc26
    33 mins ago







    @MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.

    – jpmc26
    33 mins ago













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    Just say:




    No, thanks. But good luck!




    That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.




    No, thanks.







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    • You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

      – jpmc26
      36 mins ago











    • Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

      – Lightness Races in Orbit
      15 mins ago
















    11














    Just say:




    No, thanks. But good luck!




    That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.




    No, thanks.







    share|improve this answer
























    • You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

      – jpmc26
      36 mins ago











    • Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

      – Lightness Races in Orbit
      15 mins ago














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    11







    Just say:




    No, thanks. But good luck!




    That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.




    No, thanks.







    share|improve this answer













    Just say:




    No, thanks. But good luck!




    That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.




    No, thanks.








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    • You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

      – jpmc26
      36 mins ago











    • Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

      – Lightness Races in Orbit
      15 mins ago



















    • You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

      – jpmc26
      36 mins ago











    • Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

      – Lightness Races in Orbit
      15 mins ago

















    You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

    – jpmc26
    36 mins ago





    You might add something like, "I'd rather not," if you want to come off as a bit less harsh.

    – jpmc26
    36 mins ago













    Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    15 mins ago





    Yep, a valid alternative. 👍

    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    15 mins ago











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    I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.






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      I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.






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        I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.






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