Does the UA Sea Sorcerer's Curse of the Sea feature work with the Eldritch Blast cantrip using the warlock's...
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I am trying to understand whether the Curse of the Sea feature of the Sea Sorcerer subclass (from Unearthed Arcana: Sorcerer) works with the warlock's Repelling Blast eldritch invocation.
The Curse of the Sea feature states, among other things:
Once per turn when you cast a spell, you can trigger the curse if that spell deals cold or lightning damage to the cursed target or forces it to move.
The Repelling Blast invocation states:
When you hit a creature with eldritch blast, you can push the creature up to 10 feet away from you in a straight line.
If I'm going to be multiclassed in Warlock and Sea Sorcerer, can I trigger the curse off of eldritch blast with Repelling Blast, or not?
It sounds to me like Repelling Blast is a power your character has, not an add-on to the spell, so I tend towards "no," but it kind of feels like they should work together.
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I am trying to understand whether the Curse of the Sea feature of the Sea Sorcerer subclass (from Unearthed Arcana: Sorcerer) works with the warlock's Repelling Blast eldritch invocation.
The Curse of the Sea feature states, among other things:
Once per turn when you cast a spell, you can trigger the curse if that spell deals cold or lightning damage to the cursed target or forces it to move.
The Repelling Blast invocation states:
When you hit a creature with eldritch blast, you can push the creature up to 10 feet away from you in a straight line.
If I'm going to be multiclassed in Warlock and Sea Sorcerer, can I trigger the curse off of eldritch blast with Repelling Blast, or not?
It sounds to me like Repelling Blast is a power your character has, not an add-on to the spell, so I tend towards "no," but it kind of feels like they should work together.
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I am trying to understand whether the Curse of the Sea feature of the Sea Sorcerer subclass (from Unearthed Arcana: Sorcerer) works with the warlock's Repelling Blast eldritch invocation.
The Curse of the Sea feature states, among other things:
Once per turn when you cast a spell, you can trigger the curse if that spell deals cold or lightning damage to the cursed target or forces it to move.
The Repelling Blast invocation states:
When you hit a creature with eldritch blast, you can push the creature up to 10 feet away from you in a straight line.
If I'm going to be multiclassed in Warlock and Sea Sorcerer, can I trigger the curse off of eldritch blast with Repelling Blast, or not?
It sounds to me like Repelling Blast is a power your character has, not an add-on to the spell, so I tend towards "no," but it kind of feels like they should work together.
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I am trying to understand whether the Curse of the Sea feature of the Sea Sorcerer subclass (from Unearthed Arcana: Sorcerer) works with the warlock's Repelling Blast eldritch invocation.
The Curse of the Sea feature states, among other things:
Once per turn when you cast a spell, you can trigger the curse if that spell deals cold or lightning damage to the cursed target or forces it to move.
The Repelling Blast invocation states:
When you hit a creature with eldritch blast, you can push the creature up to 10 feet away from you in a straight line.
If I'm going to be multiclassed in Warlock and Sea Sorcerer, can I trigger the curse off of eldritch blast with Repelling Blast, or not?
It sounds to me like Repelling Blast is a power your character has, not an add-on to the spell, so I tend towards "no," but it kind of feels like they should work together.
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It's going to be up to your DM
This is definitely an edge-case - and even moreso because it's language used in Unearthed Arcana which Jeremy Crawford has stated that:
Unearthed Arcana material isn't tuned for multiclassing. We make a class/subclass multiclass-ready if it's going to become official.
Odd interactions like your question are bound to come up and will likely be dependent on tables as to how to adjudicate if multiclassing is pursued.
A reasonable approach
Having said that, it does seem like the two abilities should interact. The requirement for the curse is movement due to casting a spell, which is exactly what is happening with Eldritch Blast with Repelling Blast.
Your DM may initially allow it because of...logic :) But table experience may determine if the combo is overpowered or not. If so, don't be discouraged if they want to roll back the allowance and bar the interaction.
Multiple Blasts Concern
As Ben Barden pointed out, EB provides more than one blast. No other sorcerer cantrip that delivers cold, lightning, or forced movement does this. This is another interaction unplanned with the UA multiclassing.
Once again, it's up to the DM how they want to handle the curse application here. But given a successful series of hits could then push the target back in multiples of 15, this suggests a problem with the interaction and a reason not to allow it. However, if they decide "that's awesome!" and it works for them and the table - then allowing it is reasonable as well :)
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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It's going to be up to your DM
This is definitely an edge-case - and even moreso because it's language used in Unearthed Arcana which Jeremy Crawford has stated that:
Unearthed Arcana material isn't tuned for multiclassing. We make a class/subclass multiclass-ready if it's going to become official.
Odd interactions like your question are bound to come up and will likely be dependent on tables as to how to adjudicate if multiclassing is pursued.
A reasonable approach
Having said that, it does seem like the two abilities should interact. The requirement for the curse is movement due to casting a spell, which is exactly what is happening with Eldritch Blast with Repelling Blast.
Your DM may initially allow it because of...logic :) But table experience may determine if the combo is overpowered or not. If so, don't be discouraged if they want to roll back the allowance and bar the interaction.
Multiple Blasts Concern
As Ben Barden pointed out, EB provides more than one blast. No other sorcerer cantrip that delivers cold, lightning, or forced movement does this. This is another interaction unplanned with the UA multiclassing.
Once again, it's up to the DM how they want to handle the curse application here. But given a successful series of hits could then push the target back in multiples of 15, this suggests a problem with the interaction and a reason not to allow it. However, if they decide "that's awesome!" and it works for them and the table - then allowing it is reasonable as well :)
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
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– Ben Barden
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
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– Ben Barden
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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It's going to be up to your DM
This is definitely an edge-case - and even moreso because it's language used in Unearthed Arcana which Jeremy Crawford has stated that:
Unearthed Arcana material isn't tuned for multiclassing. We make a class/subclass multiclass-ready if it's going to become official.
Odd interactions like your question are bound to come up and will likely be dependent on tables as to how to adjudicate if multiclassing is pursued.
A reasonable approach
Having said that, it does seem like the two abilities should interact. The requirement for the curse is movement due to casting a spell, which is exactly what is happening with Eldritch Blast with Repelling Blast.
Your DM may initially allow it because of...logic :) But table experience may determine if the combo is overpowered or not. If so, don't be discouraged if they want to roll back the allowance and bar the interaction.
Multiple Blasts Concern
As Ben Barden pointed out, EB provides more than one blast. No other sorcerer cantrip that delivers cold, lightning, or forced movement does this. This is another interaction unplanned with the UA multiclassing.
Once again, it's up to the DM how they want to handle the curse application here. But given a successful series of hits could then push the target back in multiples of 15, this suggests a problem with the interaction and a reason not to allow it. However, if they decide "that's awesome!" and it works for them and the table - then allowing it is reasonable as well :)
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
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– Ben Barden
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
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– Ben Barden
yesterday
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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– NautArch
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It's going to be up to your DM
This is definitely an edge-case - and even moreso because it's language used in Unearthed Arcana which Jeremy Crawford has stated that:
Unearthed Arcana material isn't tuned for multiclassing. We make a class/subclass multiclass-ready if it's going to become official.
Odd interactions like your question are bound to come up and will likely be dependent on tables as to how to adjudicate if multiclassing is pursued.
A reasonable approach
Having said that, it does seem like the two abilities should interact. The requirement for the curse is movement due to casting a spell, which is exactly what is happening with Eldritch Blast with Repelling Blast.
Your DM may initially allow it because of...logic :) But table experience may determine if the combo is overpowered or not. If so, don't be discouraged if they want to roll back the allowance and bar the interaction.
Multiple Blasts Concern
As Ben Barden pointed out, EB provides more than one blast. No other sorcerer cantrip that delivers cold, lightning, or forced movement does this. This is another interaction unplanned with the UA multiclassing.
Once again, it's up to the DM how they want to handle the curse application here. But given a successful series of hits could then push the target back in multiples of 15, this suggests a problem with the interaction and a reason not to allow it. However, if they decide "that's awesome!" and it works for them and the table - then allowing it is reasonable as well :)
answered yesterday
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It's going to be up to your DM
This is definitely an edge-case - and even moreso because it's language used in Unearthed Arcana which Jeremy Crawford has stated that:
Unearthed Arcana material isn't tuned for multiclassing. We make a class/subclass multiclass-ready if it's going to become official.
Odd interactions like your question are bound to come up and will likely be dependent on tables as to how to adjudicate if multiclassing is pursued.
A reasonable approach
Having said that, it does seem like the two abilities should interact. The requirement for the curse is movement due to casting a spell, which is exactly what is happening with Eldritch Blast with Repelling Blast.
Your DM may initially allow it because of...logic :) But table experience may determine if the combo is overpowered or not. If so, don't be discouraged if they want to roll back the allowance and bar the interaction.
Multiple Blasts Concern
As Ben Barden pointed out, EB provides more than one blast. No other sorcerer cantrip that delivers cold, lightning, or forced movement does this. This is another interaction unplanned with the UA multiclassing.
Once again, it's up to the DM how they want to handle the curse application here. But given a successful series of hits could then push the target back in multiples of 15, this suggests a problem with the interaction and a reason not to allow it. However, if they decide "that's awesome!" and it works for them and the table - then allowing it is reasonable as well :)
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
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– Ben Barden
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
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– Ben Barden
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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– NautArch
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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– NautArch
yesterday
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It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
$begingroup$
It's trickier than that, even. Eldritch blast hits more than once. There's a valid question as to whether the same eldritch blast casting could both lay the curse and trigger it, or if you'd need different castings. I personally would lean towards "you need different castings" but the wording...
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
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sure - but with most spells, you'd need two casts, because you couldn't exploit the curse with the same casting that you used to apply it. For Eldritch Blast that's... less clear. It's at least unclear enough to be a subject for some debate.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
yesterday
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
yesterday
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@BenBarden Very good point - added that.
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– NautArch
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