What does it mean when my new HDD reports errors at a time that shouldn't exist?












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I just installed several new HDDs in a machine and I happened to notice one of them had two errors reported, so I ran smartctl -x on it and got this:



smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-141-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
Device Model: HGST HUS724040ALA640
Serial Number: [REDACTED]
LU WWN Device Id: [REDACTED]
Firmware Version: MFAOAC50
User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Tue Jan 1 05:33:21 2019 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Disabled
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]
Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 24) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 543) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 016 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 138 138 054 - 74
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 100 100 024 - 572
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 8
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 142 142 020 - 25
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 100 100 000 - 520
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 8
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 16
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 16
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 166 166 000 - 36 (Min/Max 22/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 7 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Queued Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x20 GPL R/O 1 Streaming performance log [OBS-8]
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Device Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register
FEATR = Features Register
COUNT = Count (was: Sector Count) Register
LBA_48 = Upper bytes of LBA High/Mid/Low Registers ] ATA-8
LH = LBA High (was: Cylinder High) Register ] LBA
LM = LBA Mid (was: Cylinder Low) Register ] Register
LL = LBA Low (was: Sector Number) Register ]
DV = Device (was: Device/Head) Register
DC = Device Control Register
ER = Error register
ST = Status register
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 [1] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 16878 hours (703 days + 6 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 00 0f 00 01 12 cd a0 31 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112cda031 = 4610433073

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 cd a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 63 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cc a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.017 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 62 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.011 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cb a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.004 READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10610 hours (442 days + 2 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 01 34 00 01 12 f9 3a fc 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112f93afc = 4613290748

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 08 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 2c 40 00 2d+01:26:34.533 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 08 00 00 57 04 60 00 40 00 2d+01:26:33.675 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 3a 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.386 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 38 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.384 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 36 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.382 READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26741 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
SCT Support Level: 1
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 36 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 35/38 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 22/56 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (43)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
44 2019-01-01 03:26 37 ******************
... ..( 15 skipped). .. ******************
60 2019-01-01 03:42 37 ******************
61 2019-01-01 03:43 36 *****************
... ..( 20 skipped). .. *****************
82 2019-01-01 04:04 36 *****************
83 2019-01-01 04:05 35 ****************
... ..( 2 skipped). .. ****************
86 2019-01-01 04:08 35 ****************
87 2019-01-01 04:09 36 *****************
88 2019-01-01 04:10 36 *****************
89 2019-01-01 04:11 35 ****************
... ..( 40 skipped). .. ****************
2 2019-01-01 04:52 35 ****************
3 2019-01-01 04:53 36 *****************
... ..( 4 skipped). .. *****************
8 2019-01-01 04:58 36 *****************
9 2019-01-01 04:59 37 ******************
... ..( 30 skipped). .. ******************
40 2019-01-01 05:30 37 ******************
41 2019-01-01 05:31 36 *****************
42 2019-01-01 05:32 36 *****************
43 2019-01-01 05:33 36 *****************

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: Disabled
Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 2) ==
0x01 0x008 4 8 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x018 6 1598892472 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 1386302 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 3655763419 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 7494155 --- Number of Read Commands
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 520 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 520 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 16 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 37 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 35 N-- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - N-- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 56 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 22 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 41 N-- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - N-- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - N-- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 60 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 13 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0009 2 1 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS


As you can see, the drive's power-on hours are 520 (which is accurate, as I've had it for under a month), but the two errors say they occurred at 10610 hours and 16878 hours — obviously impossible.



What's happening here? Are the errors real? Worrisome? Could there be some kind of "odometer tampering" going on here by my vendor?










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    Is that 16.8k hour time consistent with the manufacturing date on the sticker? Or would that error have been from before the drive was made?
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I just installed several new HDDs in a machine and I happened to notice one of them had two errors reported, so I ran smartctl -x on it and got this:



smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-141-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
Device Model: HGST HUS724040ALA640
Serial Number: [REDACTED]
LU WWN Device Id: [REDACTED]
Firmware Version: MFAOAC50
User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Tue Jan 1 05:33:21 2019 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Disabled
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]
Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 24) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 543) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 016 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 138 138 054 - 74
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 100 100 024 - 572
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 8
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 142 142 020 - 25
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 100 100 000 - 520
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 8
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 16
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 16
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 166 166 000 - 36 (Min/Max 22/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 7 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Queued Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x20 GPL R/O 1 Streaming performance log [OBS-8]
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Device Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register
FEATR = Features Register
COUNT = Count (was: Sector Count) Register
LBA_48 = Upper bytes of LBA High/Mid/Low Registers ] ATA-8
LH = LBA High (was: Cylinder High) Register ] LBA
LM = LBA Mid (was: Cylinder Low) Register ] Register
LL = LBA Low (was: Sector Number) Register ]
DV = Device (was: Device/Head) Register
DC = Device Control Register
ER = Error register
ST = Status register
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 [1] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 16878 hours (703 days + 6 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 00 0f 00 01 12 cd a0 31 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112cda031 = 4610433073

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 cd a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 63 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cc a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.017 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 62 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.011 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cb a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.004 READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10610 hours (442 days + 2 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 01 34 00 01 12 f9 3a fc 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112f93afc = 4613290748

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 08 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 2c 40 00 2d+01:26:34.533 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 08 00 00 57 04 60 00 40 00 2d+01:26:33.675 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 3a 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.386 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 38 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.384 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 36 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.382 READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26741 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
SCT Support Level: 1
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 36 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 35/38 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 22/56 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (43)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
44 2019-01-01 03:26 37 ******************
... ..( 15 skipped). .. ******************
60 2019-01-01 03:42 37 ******************
61 2019-01-01 03:43 36 *****************
... ..( 20 skipped). .. *****************
82 2019-01-01 04:04 36 *****************
83 2019-01-01 04:05 35 ****************
... ..( 2 skipped). .. ****************
86 2019-01-01 04:08 35 ****************
87 2019-01-01 04:09 36 *****************
88 2019-01-01 04:10 36 *****************
89 2019-01-01 04:11 35 ****************
... ..( 40 skipped). .. ****************
2 2019-01-01 04:52 35 ****************
3 2019-01-01 04:53 36 *****************
... ..( 4 skipped). .. *****************
8 2019-01-01 04:58 36 *****************
9 2019-01-01 04:59 37 ******************
... ..( 30 skipped). .. ******************
40 2019-01-01 05:30 37 ******************
41 2019-01-01 05:31 36 *****************
42 2019-01-01 05:32 36 *****************
43 2019-01-01 05:33 36 *****************

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: Disabled
Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 2) ==
0x01 0x008 4 8 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x018 6 1598892472 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 1386302 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 3655763419 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 7494155 --- Number of Read Commands
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 520 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 520 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 16 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 37 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 35 N-- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - N-- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 56 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 22 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 41 N-- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - N-- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - N-- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 60 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 13 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0009 2 1 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS


As you can see, the drive's power-on hours are 520 (which is accurate, as I've had it for under a month), but the two errors say they occurred at 10610 hours and 16878 hours — obviously impossible.



What's happening here? Are the errors real? Worrisome? Could there be some kind of "odometer tampering" going on here by my vendor?










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I just installed several new HDDs in a machine and I happened to notice one of them had two errors reported, so I ran smartctl -x on it and got this:



smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-141-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
Device Model: HGST HUS724040ALA640
Serial Number: [REDACTED]
LU WWN Device Id: [REDACTED]
Firmware Version: MFAOAC50
User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Tue Jan 1 05:33:21 2019 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Disabled
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]
Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 24) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 543) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 016 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 138 138 054 - 74
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 100 100 024 - 572
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 8
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 142 142 020 - 25
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 100 100 000 - 520
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 8
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 16
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 16
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 166 166 000 - 36 (Min/Max 22/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 7 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Queued Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x20 GPL R/O 1 Streaming performance log [OBS-8]
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Device Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register
FEATR = Features Register
COUNT = Count (was: Sector Count) Register
LBA_48 = Upper bytes of LBA High/Mid/Low Registers ] ATA-8
LH = LBA High (was: Cylinder High) Register ] LBA
LM = LBA Mid (was: Cylinder Low) Register ] Register
LL = LBA Low (was: Sector Number) Register ]
DV = Device (was: Device/Head) Register
DC = Device Control Register
ER = Error register
ST = Status register
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 [1] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 16878 hours (703 days + 6 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 00 0f 00 01 12 cd a0 31 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112cda031 = 4610433073

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 cd a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 63 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cc a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.017 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 62 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.011 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cb a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.004 READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10610 hours (442 days + 2 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 01 34 00 01 12 f9 3a fc 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112f93afc = 4613290748

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 08 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 2c 40 00 2d+01:26:34.533 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 08 00 00 57 04 60 00 40 00 2d+01:26:33.675 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 3a 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.386 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 38 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.384 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 36 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.382 READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26741 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
SCT Support Level: 1
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 36 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 35/38 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 22/56 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (43)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
44 2019-01-01 03:26 37 ******************
... ..( 15 skipped). .. ******************
60 2019-01-01 03:42 37 ******************
61 2019-01-01 03:43 36 *****************
... ..( 20 skipped). .. *****************
82 2019-01-01 04:04 36 *****************
83 2019-01-01 04:05 35 ****************
... ..( 2 skipped). .. ****************
86 2019-01-01 04:08 35 ****************
87 2019-01-01 04:09 36 *****************
88 2019-01-01 04:10 36 *****************
89 2019-01-01 04:11 35 ****************
... ..( 40 skipped). .. ****************
2 2019-01-01 04:52 35 ****************
3 2019-01-01 04:53 36 *****************
... ..( 4 skipped). .. *****************
8 2019-01-01 04:58 36 *****************
9 2019-01-01 04:59 37 ******************
... ..( 30 skipped). .. ******************
40 2019-01-01 05:30 37 ******************
41 2019-01-01 05:31 36 *****************
42 2019-01-01 05:32 36 *****************
43 2019-01-01 05:33 36 *****************

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: Disabled
Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 2) ==
0x01 0x008 4 8 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x018 6 1598892472 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 1386302 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 3655763419 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 7494155 --- Number of Read Commands
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 520 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 520 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 16 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 37 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 35 N-- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - N-- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 56 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 22 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 41 N-- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - N-- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - N-- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 60 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 13 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0009 2 1 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS


As you can see, the drive's power-on hours are 520 (which is accurate, as I've had it for under a month), but the two errors say they occurred at 10610 hours and 16878 hours — obviously impossible.



What's happening here? Are the errors real? Worrisome? Could there be some kind of "odometer tampering" going on here by my vendor?










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I just installed several new HDDs in a machine and I happened to notice one of them had two errors reported, so I ran smartctl -x on it and got this:



smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-141-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K4000
Device Model: HGST HUS724040ALA640
Serial Number: [REDACTED]
LU WWN Device Id: [REDACTED]
Firmware Version: MFAOAC50
User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Tue Jan 1 05:33:21 2019 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Disabled
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]
Wt Cache Reorder: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 24) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 543) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 016 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 138 138 054 - 74
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 100 100 024 - 572
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 8
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 142 142 020 - 25
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 100 100 000 - 520
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 8
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 16
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 100 100 000 - 16
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 166 166 000 - 36 (Min/Max 22/56)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 7 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Queued Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x20 GPL R/O 1 Streaming performance log [OBS-8]
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Device Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register
FEATR = Features Register
COUNT = Count (was: Sector Count) Register
LBA_48 = Upper bytes of LBA High/Mid/Low Registers ] ATA-8
LH = LBA High (was: Cylinder High) Register ] LBA
LM = LBA Mid (was: Cylinder Low) Register ] Register
LL = LBA Low (was: Sector Number) Register ]
DV = Device (was: Device/Head) Register
DC = Device Control Register
ER = Error register
ST = Status register
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 [1] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 16878 hours (703 days + 6 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 00 0f 00 01 12 cd a0 31 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112cda031 = 4610433073

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 cd a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 63 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.021 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cc a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.017 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 10 00 01 12 62 a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.011 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 00 10 00 00 00 01 12 cb a0 30 40 00 1d+08:13:30.004 READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10610 hours (442 days + 2 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
40 -- 51 01 34 00 01 12 f9 3a fc 02 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x112f93afc = 4613290748

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
60 00 08 00 10 00 00 00 00 01 2c 40 00 2d+01:26:34.533 READ FPDMA QUEUED
61 00 10 00 08 00 00 57 04 60 00 40 00 2d+01:26:33.675 WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 3a 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.386 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 38 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.384 READ FPDMA QUEUED
60 02 00 00 00 00 01 12 f9 36 30 40 00 2d+01:26:33.382 READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 26741 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
SCT Support Level: 1
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 36 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 35/38 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 22/56 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/70 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (43)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
44 2019-01-01 03:26 37 ******************
... ..( 15 skipped). .. ******************
60 2019-01-01 03:42 37 ******************
61 2019-01-01 03:43 36 *****************
... ..( 20 skipped). .. *****************
82 2019-01-01 04:04 36 *****************
83 2019-01-01 04:05 35 ****************
... ..( 2 skipped). .. ****************
86 2019-01-01 04:08 35 ****************
87 2019-01-01 04:09 36 *****************
88 2019-01-01 04:10 36 *****************
89 2019-01-01 04:11 35 ****************
... ..( 40 skipped). .. ****************
2 2019-01-01 04:52 35 ****************
3 2019-01-01 04:53 36 *****************
... ..( 4 skipped). .. *****************
8 2019-01-01 04:58 36 *****************
9 2019-01-01 04:59 37 ******************
... ..( 30 skipped). .. ******************
40 2019-01-01 05:30 37 ******************
41 2019-01-01 05:31 36 *****************
42 2019-01-01 05:32 36 *****************
43 2019-01-01 05:33 36 *****************

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: Disabled
Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 2) ==
0x01 0x008 4 8 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x018 6 1598892472 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 1386302 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 3655763419 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 7494155 --- Number of Read Commands
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 520 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 520 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 16 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 37 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 35 N-- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - N-- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 56 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 22 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 41 N-- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 25 N-- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - N-- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - N-- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 60 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 13 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0009 2 1 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS


As you can see, the drive's power-on hours are 520 (which is accurate, as I've had it for under a month), but the two errors say they occurred at 10610 hours and 16878 hours — obviously impossible.



What's happening here? Are the errors real? Worrisome? Could there be some kind of "odometer tampering" going on here by my vendor?







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    Is that 16.8k hour time consistent with the manufacturing date on the sticker? Or would that error have been from before the drive was made?
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I think that your suspicion of "odometer tampering" is correct, and it is possible. The recorded errors are likely real and definitely worrisome because they indicate bad sectors upon reading. The disk was likely wiped before making its way to you, so those bad sectors have probably been remapped.



Whoever sold you the hard drive reset the S.M.A.R.T. attributes to make it look like a new hard drive.





Anecdote



On 25 July 2015, I purchased six very similar hard drives from goHardDrive.com. When I checked all the disks, I experienced almost the exact same symptoms:



root@box52:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-57-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000
Device Model: Hitachi HDS722020ALA330
Serial Number: JK1101B9G7U8NF
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 222c38d7e
Firmware Version: JKAOA3MA
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is: Thu Jul 30 13:57:13 2015 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (23653) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 394) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 206 206 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 25/29)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31311 hours (1304 days + 15 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 9d+05:13:00.528 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 40 00 9d+05:12:59.801 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.797 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.794 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.789 READ DMA EXT

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31243 hours (1301 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.394 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 48 00 41d+18:29:24.388 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.383 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.376 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.371 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


If it weren't for the S.M.A.R.T. errors that they either forgot to erase or could not erase, I would have been convinced that the disks I bought were new.



Suspicious, I telephoned Hitachi Global Storage Technologies and learned that at least two of the disks had their warranties activated on 24 September 2010, almost five years before I bought them. The manufacturer's warranty expired 3 years later.



In my complaint to the seller, I wrote:




Erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attribute values is like zeroing the odometer in a car. A big problem with erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attributes is that end users like me have no way of identifying whether sectors have been reallocated. There could be anywhere from no reallocated sectors to all of the spare sectors reallocated. Considering that these drives are nearly five years old with over 73.7% of the time at least one of the drives was powered on, there are very likely remapped sectors that I don't know about.



goHardDrive.com has sold me at least one defective hard drive, has knowingly erased the operational history of all six hard drives, and did not reveal the used nature of any of the hard drives at the time of sale.




I also took a photograph of the hard drives:



Sketchy Hard Drives from goHardDrive.com – The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference drive.



The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference disk from the same manufacturer.



Notice that the reference disk has APR-2012 printed on it, showing when it was manufactured. The date of manufacture was removed from the six disks I bought, but not quite well enough. Look at the middle disk, where you can faintly make out AUG-2010.



This surely confirms the disks' history: I bought used hard drives that had their "odometers" reset.



In the end, the seller accepted my request for a return, and I sent back all of the disks for a full refund.



Be careful with what hard drives you buy! It's good that you checked them for residual signs of wear.






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    Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
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    Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago






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    @DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
    – R..
    2 days ago






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    @Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago








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    My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
    – Rodney
    yesterday











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I think that your suspicion of "odometer tampering" is correct, and it is possible. The recorded errors are likely real and definitely worrisome because they indicate bad sectors upon reading. The disk was likely wiped before making its way to you, so those bad sectors have probably been remapped.



Whoever sold you the hard drive reset the S.M.A.R.T. attributes to make it look like a new hard drive.





Anecdote



On 25 July 2015, I purchased six very similar hard drives from goHardDrive.com. When I checked all the disks, I experienced almost the exact same symptoms:



root@box52:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-57-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000
Device Model: Hitachi HDS722020ALA330
Serial Number: JK1101B9G7U8NF
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 222c38d7e
Firmware Version: JKAOA3MA
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is: Thu Jul 30 13:57:13 2015 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (23653) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 394) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 206 206 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 25/29)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31311 hours (1304 days + 15 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 9d+05:13:00.528 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 40 00 9d+05:12:59.801 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.797 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.794 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.789 READ DMA EXT

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31243 hours (1301 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.394 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 48 00 41d+18:29:24.388 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.383 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.376 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.371 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


If it weren't for the S.M.A.R.T. errors that they either forgot to erase or could not erase, I would have been convinced that the disks I bought were new.



Suspicious, I telephoned Hitachi Global Storage Technologies and learned that at least two of the disks had their warranties activated on 24 September 2010, almost five years before I bought them. The manufacturer's warranty expired 3 years later.



In my complaint to the seller, I wrote:




Erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attribute values is like zeroing the odometer in a car. A big problem with erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attributes is that end users like me have no way of identifying whether sectors have been reallocated. There could be anywhere from no reallocated sectors to all of the spare sectors reallocated. Considering that these drives are nearly five years old with over 73.7% of the time at least one of the drives was powered on, there are very likely remapped sectors that I don't know about.



goHardDrive.com has sold me at least one defective hard drive, has knowingly erased the operational history of all six hard drives, and did not reveal the used nature of any of the hard drives at the time of sale.




I also took a photograph of the hard drives:



Sketchy Hard Drives from goHardDrive.com – The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference drive.



The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference disk from the same manufacturer.



Notice that the reference disk has APR-2012 printed on it, showing when it was manufactured. The date of manufacture was removed from the six disks I bought, but not quite well enough. Look at the middle disk, where you can faintly make out AUG-2010.



This surely confirms the disks' history: I bought used hard drives that had their "odometers" reset.



In the end, the seller accepted my request for a return, and I sent back all of the disks for a full refund.



Be careful with what hard drives you buy! It's good that you checked them for residual signs of wear.






share|improve this answer



















  • 29




    Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
    – DavidPostill
    2 days ago






  • 26




    Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
    – R..
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago








  • 14




    My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
    – Rodney
    yesterday
















122














I think that your suspicion of "odometer tampering" is correct, and it is possible. The recorded errors are likely real and definitely worrisome because they indicate bad sectors upon reading. The disk was likely wiped before making its way to you, so those bad sectors have probably been remapped.



Whoever sold you the hard drive reset the S.M.A.R.T. attributes to make it look like a new hard drive.





Anecdote



On 25 July 2015, I purchased six very similar hard drives from goHardDrive.com. When I checked all the disks, I experienced almost the exact same symptoms:



root@box52:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-57-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000
Device Model: Hitachi HDS722020ALA330
Serial Number: JK1101B9G7U8NF
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 222c38d7e
Firmware Version: JKAOA3MA
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is: Thu Jul 30 13:57:13 2015 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (23653) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 394) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 206 206 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 25/29)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31311 hours (1304 days + 15 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 9d+05:13:00.528 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 40 00 9d+05:12:59.801 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.797 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.794 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.789 READ DMA EXT

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31243 hours (1301 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.394 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 48 00 41d+18:29:24.388 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.383 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.376 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.371 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


If it weren't for the S.M.A.R.T. errors that they either forgot to erase or could not erase, I would have been convinced that the disks I bought were new.



Suspicious, I telephoned Hitachi Global Storage Technologies and learned that at least two of the disks had their warranties activated on 24 September 2010, almost five years before I bought them. The manufacturer's warranty expired 3 years later.



In my complaint to the seller, I wrote:




Erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attribute values is like zeroing the odometer in a car. A big problem with erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attributes is that end users like me have no way of identifying whether sectors have been reallocated. There could be anywhere from no reallocated sectors to all of the spare sectors reallocated. Considering that these drives are nearly five years old with over 73.7% of the time at least one of the drives was powered on, there are very likely remapped sectors that I don't know about.



goHardDrive.com has sold me at least one defective hard drive, has knowingly erased the operational history of all six hard drives, and did not reveal the used nature of any of the hard drives at the time of sale.




I also took a photograph of the hard drives:



Sketchy Hard Drives from goHardDrive.com – The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference drive.



The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference disk from the same manufacturer.



Notice that the reference disk has APR-2012 printed on it, showing when it was manufactured. The date of manufacture was removed from the six disks I bought, but not quite well enough. Look at the middle disk, where you can faintly make out AUG-2010.



This surely confirms the disks' history: I bought used hard drives that had their "odometers" reset.



In the end, the seller accepted my request for a return, and I sent back all of the disks for a full refund.



Be careful with what hard drives you buy! It's good that you checked them for residual signs of wear.






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  • 29




    Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
    – DavidPostill
    2 days ago






  • 26




    Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
    – R..
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago








  • 14




    My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
    – Rodney
    yesterday














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I think that your suspicion of "odometer tampering" is correct, and it is possible. The recorded errors are likely real and definitely worrisome because they indicate bad sectors upon reading. The disk was likely wiped before making its way to you, so those bad sectors have probably been remapped.



Whoever sold you the hard drive reset the S.M.A.R.T. attributes to make it look like a new hard drive.





Anecdote



On 25 July 2015, I purchased six very similar hard drives from goHardDrive.com. When I checked all the disks, I experienced almost the exact same symptoms:



root@box52:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-57-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000
Device Model: Hitachi HDS722020ALA330
Serial Number: JK1101B9G7U8NF
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 222c38d7e
Firmware Version: JKAOA3MA
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is: Thu Jul 30 13:57:13 2015 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (23653) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 394) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 206 206 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 25/29)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31311 hours (1304 days + 15 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 9d+05:13:00.528 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 40 00 9d+05:12:59.801 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.797 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.794 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.789 READ DMA EXT

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31243 hours (1301 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.394 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 48 00 41d+18:29:24.388 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.383 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.376 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.371 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


If it weren't for the S.M.A.R.T. errors that they either forgot to erase or could not erase, I would have been convinced that the disks I bought were new.



Suspicious, I telephoned Hitachi Global Storage Technologies and learned that at least two of the disks had their warranties activated on 24 September 2010, almost five years before I bought them. The manufacturer's warranty expired 3 years later.



In my complaint to the seller, I wrote:




Erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attribute values is like zeroing the odometer in a car. A big problem with erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attributes is that end users like me have no way of identifying whether sectors have been reallocated. There could be anywhere from no reallocated sectors to all of the spare sectors reallocated. Considering that these drives are nearly five years old with over 73.7% of the time at least one of the drives was powered on, there are very likely remapped sectors that I don't know about.



goHardDrive.com has sold me at least one defective hard drive, has knowingly erased the operational history of all six hard drives, and did not reveal the used nature of any of the hard drives at the time of sale.




I also took a photograph of the hard drives:



Sketchy Hard Drives from goHardDrive.com – The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference drive.



The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference disk from the same manufacturer.



Notice that the reference disk has APR-2012 printed on it, showing when it was manufactured. The date of manufacture was removed from the six disks I bought, but not quite well enough. Look at the middle disk, where you can faintly make out AUG-2010.



This surely confirms the disks' history: I bought used hard drives that had their "odometers" reset.



In the end, the seller accepted my request for a return, and I sent back all of the disks for a full refund.



Be careful with what hard drives you buy! It's good that you checked them for residual signs of wear.






share|improve this answer














I think that your suspicion of "odometer tampering" is correct, and it is possible. The recorded errors are likely real and definitely worrisome because they indicate bad sectors upon reading. The disk was likely wiped before making its way to you, so those bad sectors have probably been remapped.



Whoever sold you the hard drive reset the S.M.A.R.T. attributes to make it look like a new hard drive.





Anecdote



On 25 July 2015, I purchased six very similar hard drives from goHardDrive.com. When I checked all the disks, I experienced almost the exact same symptoms:



root@box52:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdb
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-57-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000
Device Model: Hitachi HDS722020ALA330
Serial Number: JK1101B9G7U8NF
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 222c38d7e
Firmware Version: JKAOA3MA
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is: Thu Jul 30 13:57:13 2015 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART STATUS RETURN: incomplete response, ATA output registers missing
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Warning: This result is based on an Attribute check.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (23653) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 394) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 054 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 100 100 024 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 020 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 206 206 000 Old_age Always - 29 (Min/Max 25/29)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31311 hours (1304 days + 15 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 9d+05:13:00.528 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 40 00 9d+05:12:59.801 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.797 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.794 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 48 00 9d+05:12:59.789 READ DMA EXT

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 31243 hours (1301 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 ff 01 58 5d 08 Error: UNC 255 sectors at LBA = 0x085d5801 = 140335105

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 00 00 58 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.394 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 57 5d 48 00 41d+18:29:24.388 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 56 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.383 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 55 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.376 READ DMA EXT
25 00 00 00 54 5d 40 00 41d+18:29:24.371 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


If it weren't for the S.M.A.R.T. errors that they either forgot to erase or could not erase, I would have been convinced that the disks I bought were new.



Suspicious, I telephoned Hitachi Global Storage Technologies and learned that at least two of the disks had their warranties activated on 24 September 2010, almost five years before I bought them. The manufacturer's warranty expired 3 years later.



In my complaint to the seller, I wrote:




Erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attribute values is like zeroing the odometer in a car. A big problem with erasing the S.M.A.R.T. attributes is that end users like me have no way of identifying whether sectors have been reallocated. There could be anywhere from no reallocated sectors to all of the spare sectors reallocated. Considering that these drives are nearly five years old with over 73.7% of the time at least one of the drives was powered on, there are very likely remapped sectors that I don't know about.



goHardDrive.com has sold me at least one defective hard drive, has knowingly erased the operational history of all six hard drives, and did not reveal the used nature of any of the hard drives at the time of sale.




I also took a photograph of the hard drives:



Sketchy Hard Drives from goHardDrive.com – The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference drive.



The hard drive at the bottom of the image is a reference disk from the same manufacturer.



Notice that the reference disk has APR-2012 printed on it, showing when it was manufactured. The date of manufacture was removed from the six disks I bought, but not quite well enough. Look at the middle disk, where you can faintly make out AUG-2010.



This surely confirms the disks' history: I bought used hard drives that had their "odometers" reset.



In the end, the seller accepted my request for a return, and I sent back all of the disks for a full refund.



Be careful with what hard drives you buy! It's good that you checked them for residual signs of wear.







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  • 29




    Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
    – DavidPostill
    2 days ago






  • 26




    Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
    – R..
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago








  • 14




    My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
    – Rodney
    yesterday














  • 29




    Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
    – DavidPostill
    2 days ago






  • 26




    Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
    – R..
    2 days ago






  • 11




    @Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
    – Lightness Races in Orbit
    2 days ago








  • 14




    My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
    – Rodney
    yesterday








29




29




Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
– DavidPostill
2 days ago




Oh, nice answer. I wasn't aware you could reset SMART attributes. I've never bought a second hand disk and now have no intentions of ever doing so :)
– DavidPostill
2 days ago




26




26




Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago




Presumably this behaviour also falls foul of trade laws, since what they did is basically misselling/fraud. Did you consider taking the matter further?
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago




11




11




@DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
– R..
2 days ago




@DavidPostill: Apparently Deltik didn't have any intention of doing so either, but was a victim of fraud by a sketchy vendor.
– R..
2 days ago




11




11




@Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago






@Deltik I'm kind of concerned that this behaviour is probably continuing unreported, harming who knows how many honest consumers.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago






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My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
– Rodney
yesterday




My friend accidentally reformatted his "new" SD card and lost his Christmas pics - so I ran a recovery tool on it and recovered over 200 pictures of people we'd never seen before! Also beware SDRAM - the manufacturer ID is just stored in a serial PROM on the PCB and can be programmed to say anything - it becomes obvious if they miss-spell "Samsung"
– Rodney
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