Subordinating conjunctions “who” & “when” as subject clause?












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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






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  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










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    – Kris
    2 days ago






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    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    2 days ago






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    ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 days ago
















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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






grammaticality conjunctions clauses when who







share|improve this question
























  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    2 days ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    2 days ago






  • 1




    ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 days ago














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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






grammaticality conjunctions clauses when who







share|improve this question















I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






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  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    2 days ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    2 days ago






  • 1




    ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 days ago


















  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    2 days ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    2 days ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    2 days ago






  • 1




    ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 days ago
















Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
– Kris
2 days ago




Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
– Kris
2 days ago












Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
– Kris
2 days ago




Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
– Kris
2 days ago












See also, English Language Learners
– Kris
2 days ago




See also, English Language Learners
– Kris
2 days ago




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The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
– BillJ
2 days ago




The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
– BillJ
2 days ago




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... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
– John Lawler
2 days ago




... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
– John Lawler
2 days ago















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