What happens if the shutdown continues until election season?
Hopefully, this doesn't happen, but what happens if the US shutdown continues until the 2020 elections? Does the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have funding? Will elections be post-poned? If the FEC does have funding, what would happen if a complete (as opposed to partial) shutdown occured during an election year and said shutdown lasts until the elections?
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Hopefully, this doesn't happen, but what happens if the US shutdown continues until the 2020 elections? Does the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have funding? Will elections be post-poned? If the FEC does have funding, what would happen if a complete (as opposed to partial) shutdown occured during an election year and said shutdown lasts until the elections?
united-states presidential-election government-shutdown
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
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Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
6
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
9
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
1
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
1
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
yesterday
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Hopefully, this doesn't happen, but what happens if the US shutdown continues until the 2020 elections? Does the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have funding? Will elections be post-poned? If the FEC does have funding, what would happen if a complete (as opposed to partial) shutdown occured during an election year and said shutdown lasts until the elections?
united-states presidential-election government-shutdown
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
Hopefully, this doesn't happen, but what happens if the US shutdown continues until the 2020 elections? Does the Federal Election Commission (FEC) have funding? Will elections be post-poned? If the FEC does have funding, what would happen if a complete (as opposed to partial) shutdown occured during an election year and said shutdown lasts until the elections?
united-states presidential-election government-shutdown
united-states presidential-election government-shutdown
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
edited yesterday
Andrew Morton
1033
1033
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
asked 2 days ago
tox123tox123
464416
464416
13
Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
6
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
9
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
1
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
1
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
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Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
6
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
9
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
1
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
1
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
yesterday
13
13
Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
6
6
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
9
9
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
1
1
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
1
1
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
yesterday
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
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To address the technical question, FEC will not function during shutdown: https://www.fec.gov/updates/shutdown-announcement-2018/.
Like many federal agencies, the FEC will be unable to provide any services during the government shutdown. Most agency staff will not report to work, and the agency’s offices will be closed to the public. ... You will be unable to contact the FEC during the government shutdown. ...
To address the theoretical question: It's unknown for certain what will happen (and the answers may possibly be impossible to obtain barring a Supreme Court challenge), BUT, philosophically speaking, one thing must be stated:
Elections are run by the states (both Congressional, and Presidential).
FEC facilitates them in certain ways (they enforce rules, mostly related to campaign finance), but FEC is not required to have and hold elections. They were held quite successfully prior to October 15, 1974 formation of FEC.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency. - from https://www.fec.gov/about/mission-and-history/
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People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
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Elections are run by individual states and are certified by Congress, the core process wouldn't change. The FEC is a regulatory body that focuses primarily on campaign finances, they aren't really responsible for the core functions of elections. Candidates would still be responsible for following FEC rules, though there may be no auditing/enforcement during elections if they were shut down. The things that would not happen would be the consulting and funding provided by the FEC during elections. Almost all enforcement actions taken by the FEC happen after elections are completed and certified already, not being active would likely further delay enforcement.
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To address the technical question, FEC will not function during shutdown: https://www.fec.gov/updates/shutdown-announcement-2018/.
Like many federal agencies, the FEC will be unable to provide any services during the government shutdown. Most agency staff will not report to work, and the agency’s offices will be closed to the public. ... You will be unable to contact the FEC during the government shutdown. ...
To address the theoretical question: It's unknown for certain what will happen (and the answers may possibly be impossible to obtain barring a Supreme Court challenge), BUT, philosophically speaking, one thing must be stated:
Elections are run by the states (both Congressional, and Presidential).
FEC facilitates them in certain ways (they enforce rules, mostly related to campaign finance), but FEC is not required to have and hold elections. They were held quite successfully prior to October 15, 1974 formation of FEC.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency. - from https://www.fec.gov/about/mission-and-history/
answered 2 days ago
user4012user4012
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People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
add a comment |
To address the technical question, FEC will not function during shutdown: https://www.fec.gov/updates/shutdown-announcement-2018/.
Like many federal agencies, the FEC will be unable to provide any services during the government shutdown. Most agency staff will not report to work, and the agency’s offices will be closed to the public. ... You will be unable to contact the FEC during the government shutdown. ...
To address the theoretical question: It's unknown for certain what will happen (and the answers may possibly be impossible to obtain barring a Supreme Court challenge), BUT, philosophically speaking, one thing must be stated:
Elections are run by the states (both Congressional, and Presidential).
FEC facilitates them in certain ways (they enforce rules, mostly related to campaign finance), but FEC is not required to have and hold elections. They were held quite successfully prior to October 15, 1974 formation of FEC.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency. - from https://www.fec.gov/about/mission-and-history/
answered 2 days ago
user4012user4012
70.7k15158306
13
People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
add a comment |
To address the technical question, FEC will not function during shutdown: https://www.fec.gov/updates/shutdown-announcement-2018/.
Like many federal agencies, the FEC will be unable to provide any services during the government shutdown. Most agency staff will not report to work, and the agency’s offices will be closed to the public. ... You will be unable to contact the FEC during the government shutdown. ...
To address the theoretical question: It's unknown for certain what will happen (and the answers may possibly be impossible to obtain barring a Supreme Court challenge), BUT, philosophically speaking, one thing must be stated:
Elections are run by the states (both Congressional, and Presidential).
FEC facilitates them in certain ways (they enforce rules, mostly related to campaign finance), but FEC is not required to have and hold elections. They were held quite successfully prior to October 15, 1974 formation of FEC.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency. - from https://www.fec.gov/about/mission-and-history/
answered 2 days ago
user4012user4012
70.7k15158306
To address the technical question, FEC will not function during shutdown: https://www.fec.gov/updates/shutdown-announcement-2018/.
Like many federal agencies, the FEC will be unable to provide any services during the government shutdown. Most agency staff will not report to work, and the agency’s offices will be closed to the public. ... You will be unable to contact the FEC during the government shutdown. ...
To address the theoretical question: It's unknown for certain what will happen (and the answers may possibly be impossible to obtain barring a Supreme Court challenge), BUT, philosophically speaking, one thing must be stated:
Elections are run by the states (both Congressional, and Presidential).
FEC facilitates them in certain ways (they enforce rules, mostly related to campaign finance), but FEC is not required to have and hold elections. They were held quite successfully prior to October 15, 1974 formation of FEC.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is the independent regulatory agency charged with administering and enforcing the federal campaign finance law. The FEC has jurisdiction over the financing of campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate, Presidency and the Vice Presidency. - from https://www.fec.gov/about/mission-and-history/
answered 2 days ago
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answered 2 days ago
user4012user4012
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answered 2 days ago
user4012user4012
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People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
add a comment |
13
People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
13
13
People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
People were driving cars before seatbelts and airbags existed, too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to drive without them.
– Shadur
yesterday
7
7
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
@Shadur - txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/…
– user4012
yesterday
4
4
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
@user4012 Wow what an arbitrary list of analogies. Why don't they just call analogies a fallacy and are done with it? (And I don't dispute that Shadur's analogie is a false one.)
– sgf
yesterday
1
1
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
@sgf - in all honesty I just picked the first link explaining the fallacy from Google search, without reading details in it.
– user4012
yesterday
add a comment |
Elections are run by individual states and are certified by Congress, the core process wouldn't change. The FEC is a regulatory body that focuses primarily on campaign finances, they aren't really responsible for the core functions of elections. Candidates would still be responsible for following FEC rules, though there may be no auditing/enforcement during elections if they were shut down. The things that would not happen would be the consulting and funding provided by the FEC during elections. Almost all enforcement actions taken by the FEC happen after elections are completed and certified already, not being active would likely further delay enforcement.
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
7,5131435
add a comment |
Elections are run by individual states and are certified by Congress, the core process wouldn't change. The FEC is a regulatory body that focuses primarily on campaign finances, they aren't really responsible for the core functions of elections. Candidates would still be responsible for following FEC rules, though there may be no auditing/enforcement during elections if they were shut down. The things that would not happen would be the consulting and funding provided by the FEC during elections. Almost all enforcement actions taken by the FEC happen after elections are completed and certified already, not being active would likely further delay enforcement.
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
7,5131435
add a comment |
Elections are run by individual states and are certified by Congress, the core process wouldn't change. The FEC is a regulatory body that focuses primarily on campaign finances, they aren't really responsible for the core functions of elections. Candidates would still be responsible for following FEC rules, though there may be no auditing/enforcement during elections if they were shut down. The things that would not happen would be the consulting and funding provided by the FEC during elections. Almost all enforcement actions taken by the FEC happen after elections are completed and certified already, not being active would likely further delay enforcement.
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
7,5131435
Elections are run by individual states and are certified by Congress, the core process wouldn't change. The FEC is a regulatory body that focuses primarily on campaign finances, they aren't really responsible for the core functions of elections. Candidates would still be responsible for following FEC rules, though there may be no auditing/enforcement during elections if they were shut down. The things that would not happen would be the consulting and funding provided by the FEC during elections. Almost all enforcement actions taken by the FEC happen after elections are completed and certified already, not being active would likely further delay enforcement.
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
7,5131435
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
7,5131435
answered 2 days ago
RyathalRyathal
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answered 2 days ago
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Its already election season. There are now 4 announced Democratic candidates that I know of, and the first campaign videos have already been released.
– T.E.D.
2 days ago
6
@T.E.D. by that metric, isn't it almost always election season?
– tox123
2 days ago
9
@tox123 It pretty much is, yes, and that's one of the major factors that drives the nature of US politics. The house of representatives is completely refreshed, and 1/3 of the senate refreshed, every other year. That doesn't leave a whole lot of down time to not be campaigning, especially for the party as a whole. I think some supporters of Citizens United argue that this helped relieve some of the constant-campaigning syndrome (because otherwise to get the money you need these days you have to work a lot more people a lot harder).
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
1
@tox123 - Well, as its a couple of months shy of 2 years until the next one, and they are 4 years apart, "almost most of the time" would probably be accurate. This is actually an important point though, because the agency in charge of monitoring campaigns and enforcing the rules is currently shut down, and there are now 5 campaigns active.
– T.E.D.
yesterday
1
@T.E.D. Federal elections are 2 years apart, though Presidential ones are only every 4 years. That said, there's really only a bit over a year (a year and 2-3 months) between a general federal election and the beginning of primary elections for the subsequent federal election cycle.
– reirab
yesterday