Defining a parameterised Fixpoint in Coq












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I'm trying to define a fixpoint in Coq in which one of the function definitions refers to the other through a parameter, but I'm getting some confusing errors.



I've minimised the definition to this:



Require Import Coq.Init.Notations.
Require Import Coq.Init.Datatypes.

Inductive Wrapper (T : Type) :=
| Wrap : T -> Wrapper T
.
Inductive Unwrapper :=
| Empty : Unwrapper
| Unwrap : Wrapper Unwrapper -> Unwrapper
.

Fixpoint Unwrapper_size (u : Unwrapper) {struct u} : nat :=
match u with
| Empty => O
| Unwrap w => Wrapper_size w
end

with Wrapper_size (w : Wrapper Unwrapper) {struct w} : nat :=
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end.


which results in this error:



Recursive definition of Wrapper_size is ill-formed.
In environment
Unwrapper_size : Unwrapper -> nat
Wrapper_size : Wrapper Unwrapper -> nat
w : Wrapper Unwrapper
t : Unwrapper
Recursive call to Unwrapper_size has principal argument equal to
"t" instead of a subterm of "w".
Recursive definition is:
"fun w : Wrapper Unwrapper =>
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end".


Here, t is evidently a subterm of ww was what we're matching on to get t, but Coq doesn't accept it. What's the mistake here, and how can I get around it?










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  • Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

    – hivert
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:34











  • Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

    – varkor
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:37






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    As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:28






  • 1





    If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:32











  • If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:33
















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I'm trying to define a fixpoint in Coq in which one of the function definitions refers to the other through a parameter, but I'm getting some confusing errors.



I've minimised the definition to this:



Require Import Coq.Init.Notations.
Require Import Coq.Init.Datatypes.

Inductive Wrapper (T : Type) :=
| Wrap : T -> Wrapper T
.
Inductive Unwrapper :=
| Empty : Unwrapper
| Unwrap : Wrapper Unwrapper -> Unwrapper
.

Fixpoint Unwrapper_size (u : Unwrapper) {struct u} : nat :=
match u with
| Empty => O
| Unwrap w => Wrapper_size w
end

with Wrapper_size (w : Wrapper Unwrapper) {struct w} : nat :=
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end.


which results in this error:



Recursive definition of Wrapper_size is ill-formed.
In environment
Unwrapper_size : Unwrapper -> nat
Wrapper_size : Wrapper Unwrapper -> nat
w : Wrapper Unwrapper
t : Unwrapper
Recursive call to Unwrapper_size has principal argument equal to
"t" instead of a subterm of "w".
Recursive definition is:
"fun w : Wrapper Unwrapper =>
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end".


Here, t is evidently a subterm of ww was what we're matching on to get t, but Coq doesn't accept it. What's the mistake here, and how can I get around it?










share|improve this question























  • Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

    – hivert
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:34











  • Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

    – varkor
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:37






  • 1





    As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:28






  • 1





    If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:32











  • If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:33














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I'm trying to define a fixpoint in Coq in which one of the function definitions refers to the other through a parameter, but I'm getting some confusing errors.



I've minimised the definition to this:



Require Import Coq.Init.Notations.
Require Import Coq.Init.Datatypes.

Inductive Wrapper (T : Type) :=
| Wrap : T -> Wrapper T
.
Inductive Unwrapper :=
| Empty : Unwrapper
| Unwrap : Wrapper Unwrapper -> Unwrapper
.

Fixpoint Unwrapper_size (u : Unwrapper) {struct u} : nat :=
match u with
| Empty => O
| Unwrap w => Wrapper_size w
end

with Wrapper_size (w : Wrapper Unwrapper) {struct w} : nat :=
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end.


which results in this error:



Recursive definition of Wrapper_size is ill-formed.
In environment
Unwrapper_size : Unwrapper -> nat
Wrapper_size : Wrapper Unwrapper -> nat
w : Wrapper Unwrapper
t : Unwrapper
Recursive call to Unwrapper_size has principal argument equal to
"t" instead of a subterm of "w".
Recursive definition is:
"fun w : Wrapper Unwrapper =>
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end".


Here, t is evidently a subterm of ww was what we're matching on to get t, but Coq doesn't accept it. What's the mistake here, and how can I get around it?










share|improve this question














I'm trying to define a fixpoint in Coq in which one of the function definitions refers to the other through a parameter, but I'm getting some confusing errors.



I've minimised the definition to this:



Require Import Coq.Init.Notations.
Require Import Coq.Init.Datatypes.

Inductive Wrapper (T : Type) :=
| Wrap : T -> Wrapper T
.
Inductive Unwrapper :=
| Empty : Unwrapper
| Unwrap : Wrapper Unwrapper -> Unwrapper
.

Fixpoint Unwrapper_size (u : Unwrapper) {struct u} : nat :=
match u with
| Empty => O
| Unwrap w => Wrapper_size w
end

with Wrapper_size (w : Wrapper Unwrapper) {struct w} : nat :=
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end.


which results in this error:



Recursive definition of Wrapper_size is ill-formed.
In environment
Unwrapper_size : Unwrapper -> nat
Wrapper_size : Wrapper Unwrapper -> nat
w : Wrapper Unwrapper
t : Unwrapper
Recursive call to Unwrapper_size has principal argument equal to
"t" instead of a subterm of "w".
Recursive definition is:
"fun w : Wrapper Unwrapper =>
match w with
| Wrap _ t => Unwrapper_size t
end".


Here, t is evidently a subterm of ww was what we're matching on to get t, but Coq doesn't accept it. What's the mistake here, and how can I get around it?







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  • Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

    – hivert
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:34











  • Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

    – varkor
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:37






  • 1





    As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:28






  • 1





    If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:32











  • If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:33



















  • Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

    – hivert
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:34











  • Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

    – varkor
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:37






  • 1





    As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:28






  • 1





    If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:32











  • If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

    – Blaisorblade
    Nov 22 '18 at 20:33

















Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

– hivert
Nov 22 '18 at 14:34





Your code is very suspicious: The only base case returns 0 and there is no operation on nat. So that if it terminates it only return 0. That's probably not what you want.

– hivert
Nov 22 '18 at 14:34













Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

– varkor
Nov 22 '18 at 14:37





Yes, I've minimised the definition to make it clearer to read. My actual use-case is less vacuous, but it just adds more noise to the problem. (You could imagine actually incrementing the results of the recursive calls to make a more useful function.)

– varkor
Nov 22 '18 at 14:37




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As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:28





As somebody said on IRC, for the current example, "try defining wrapper and unwrapper as mutually inductive", giving Inductive Wrapper := Wrap: Unwrapper -> Wrapper with Unwrapper: Coq's concept of "subterm" assumes your recursion follows the structure of your datatypes. I suppose that won't help for the original one, but it'd be good to have an example where this doesn't work. I do have another idea tho...

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:28




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If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:32





If you also wrap other things, then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat. Then I'd try using Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq might do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe. (In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size` would match on Unwrap (wrap t) and recurse on t).

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:32













If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:33





If all else fails there's always well-founded induction, but it's annoying enough that I'd try avoiding it.

– Blaisorblade
Nov 22 '18 at 20:33












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Let's assume you use Wrapper also on other arguments. Then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So you want to write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat.



Then you can use Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq should do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe.



In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size would match on Unwrap (Wrap _ t) and recurse on t.






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    Let's assume you use Wrapper also on other arguments. Then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So you want to write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat.



    Then you can use Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq should do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe.



    In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size would match on Unwrap (Wrap _ t) and recurse on t.






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      Let's assume you use Wrapper also on other arguments. Then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So you want to write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat.



      Then you can use Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq should do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe.



      In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size would match on Unwrap (Wrap _ t) and recurse on t.






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        Let's assume you use Wrapper also on other arguments. Then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So you want to write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat.



        Then you can use Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq should do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe.



        In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size would match on Unwrap (Wrap _ t) and recurse on t.






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        Let's assume you use Wrapper also on other arguments. Then you need to break the mutual recursion and make functions "parallel" to datatype. So you want to write Wrapper_size: Wrapper T -> (T -> nat) -> nat.



        Then you can use Wrapper_size Unwrapper_size in Unwrapper_size: Coq should do enough inlining in termination checking to recognize this is safe.



        In this example it's also easy to do that inlining by hand: Unwrapper_size would match on Unwrap (Wrap _ t) and recurse on t.







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