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How can I smooth all crown but don't smooth the top of the crown? I did a subdivision surface, but this didn't work. All crown became smooth and changed form.






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How can I smooth all crown but don't smooth the top of the crown? I did a subdivision surface, but this didn't work. All crown became smooth and changed form.






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    Possible duplicate of Subsurf modifier rounding sharp edges
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    – cegaton
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Another approach:



enter image description here




  • Create a Z-scaled, subduvided UV sphere, and a capless cylinder, at the origin.

  • Give the cylinder a few horizontal loops, and assign it a Srinkwrap modifier to the sphere; drag it down to a good-looking position in Z

  • Select the N,S,E,W vertices on the top loop of the Cylinder, and with Proportional Edit / Linear falloff, drag the points up in Z

  • Proportional off, Median Pivot Point, scale the bottom loop to 0 in Z

  • Assign a Solidify modifier, with 'Crease' set to 1 for Inner, Outer, and Rim.


The crease will hold against any subdivision.. after applying the modifiers you can extrude down the cylindrical headband, etc. (You might not even need subdivision, maybe AutoSmooth will do..)



EDIT: .... But as moonboots points out, it's worth taking a little time, instead of the crease, to put in a bevel after applying the Solidify, around the rims, and then across the peaks and troughs, as shown:



enter image description here






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    nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
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    @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
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    6 hours ago












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    yes sure do it!
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    6 hours ago



















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Here is a way to make a crown, maybe there's a simpler?




  • Build a basic cube, delete its two side faces, give it a Mirror modifier.

  • Drag up its central edge, add 3 vertical edge loops.

  • Add some additional edge loops close to the angles so that it will sharp them later.

  • Give your object an Array modifier. Choose a Count of 4. Enable the Merge option.

  • Give your object a Simple Deform modifier / Bend mode. Choose an Angle value of 360°. If it doesn't turn around the Z axis, apply the rotation of your object.

  • At last, give your object a Subsurf modifier (and press the Smooth Shading button on the Tools panel).

  • Move a bit your edges with GG to sharp the crest and the low of the crown.

  • Apply the modifiers (except the Subsurf if possible), remove the doubles (where the 360° joint happens).


enter image description here






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    add a subsurface modifier, select some edges and crease the edges
    enter image description here



    enter image description here



    it's a little easier of you crease the entire thing, then select a few edges and reduce the crease where you want it softer or rounder.



    creasing is quite versatile :D



    enter image description here






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      That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
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    Add in more loop cuts on the subsurf mod. That should do it. I take it that smooth shading doesn't work?






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      $begingroup$

      Another approach:



      enter image description here




      • Create a Z-scaled, subduvided UV sphere, and a capless cylinder, at the origin.

      • Give the cylinder a few horizontal loops, and assign it a Srinkwrap modifier to the sphere; drag it down to a good-looking position in Z

      • Select the N,S,E,W vertices on the top loop of the Cylinder, and with Proportional Edit / Linear falloff, drag the points up in Z

      • Proportional off, Median Pivot Point, scale the bottom loop to 0 in Z

      • Assign a Solidify modifier, with 'Crease' set to 1 for Inner, Outer, and Rim.


      The crease will hold against any subdivision.. after applying the modifiers you can extrude down the cylindrical headband, etc. (You might not even need subdivision, maybe AutoSmooth will do..)



      EDIT: .... But as moonboots points out, it's worth taking a little time, instead of the crease, to put in a bevel after applying the Solidify, around the rims, and then across the peaks and troughs, as shown:



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer











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      • 1




        $begingroup$
        nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago










      • $begingroup$
        @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
        $endgroup$
        – Robin Betts
        6 hours ago












      • $begingroup$
        yes sure do it!
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago
















      5












      $begingroup$

      Another approach:



      enter image description here




      • Create a Z-scaled, subduvided UV sphere, and a capless cylinder, at the origin.

      • Give the cylinder a few horizontal loops, and assign it a Srinkwrap modifier to the sphere; drag it down to a good-looking position in Z

      • Select the N,S,E,W vertices on the top loop of the Cylinder, and with Proportional Edit / Linear falloff, drag the points up in Z

      • Proportional off, Median Pivot Point, scale the bottom loop to 0 in Z

      • Assign a Solidify modifier, with 'Crease' set to 1 for Inner, Outer, and Rim.


      The crease will hold against any subdivision.. after applying the modifiers you can extrude down the cylindrical headband, etc. (You might not even need subdivision, maybe AutoSmooth will do..)



      EDIT: .... But as moonboots points out, it's worth taking a little time, instead of the crease, to put in a bevel after applying the Solidify, around the rims, and then across the peaks and troughs, as shown:



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer











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      • 1




        $begingroup$
        nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago










      • $begingroup$
        @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
        $endgroup$
        – Robin Betts
        6 hours ago












      • $begingroup$
        yes sure do it!
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago














      5












      5








      5





      $begingroup$

      Another approach:



      enter image description here




      • Create a Z-scaled, subduvided UV sphere, and a capless cylinder, at the origin.

      • Give the cylinder a few horizontal loops, and assign it a Srinkwrap modifier to the sphere; drag it down to a good-looking position in Z

      • Select the N,S,E,W vertices on the top loop of the Cylinder, and with Proportional Edit / Linear falloff, drag the points up in Z

      • Proportional off, Median Pivot Point, scale the bottom loop to 0 in Z

      • Assign a Solidify modifier, with 'Crease' set to 1 for Inner, Outer, and Rim.


      The crease will hold against any subdivision.. after applying the modifiers you can extrude down the cylindrical headband, etc. (You might not even need subdivision, maybe AutoSmooth will do..)



      EDIT: .... But as moonboots points out, it's worth taking a little time, instead of the crease, to put in a bevel after applying the Solidify, around the rims, and then across the peaks and troughs, as shown:



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$



      Another approach:



      enter image description here




      • Create a Z-scaled, subduvided UV sphere, and a capless cylinder, at the origin.

      • Give the cylinder a few horizontal loops, and assign it a Srinkwrap modifier to the sphere; drag it down to a good-looking position in Z

      • Select the N,S,E,W vertices on the top loop of the Cylinder, and with Proportional Edit / Linear falloff, drag the points up in Z

      • Proportional off, Median Pivot Point, scale the bottom loop to 0 in Z

      • Assign a Solidify modifier, with 'Crease' set to 1 for Inner, Outer, and Rim.


      The crease will hold against any subdivision.. after applying the modifiers you can extrude down the cylindrical headband, etc. (You might not even need subdivision, maybe AutoSmooth will do..)



      EDIT: .... But as moonboots points out, it's worth taking a little time, instead of the crease, to put in a bevel after applying the Solidify, around the rims, and then across the peaks and troughs, as shown:



      enter image description here







      share|improve this answer














      share|improve this answer



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      edited 5 hours ago

























      answered 7 hours ago









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      • 1




        $begingroup$
        nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago










      • $begingroup$
        @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
        $endgroup$
        – Robin Betts
        6 hours ago












      • $begingroup$
        yes sure do it!
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago














      • 1




        $begingroup$
        nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago










      • $begingroup$
        @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
        $endgroup$
        – Robin Betts
        6 hours ago












      • $begingroup$
        yes sure do it!
        $endgroup$
        – moonboots
        6 hours ago








      1




      1




      $begingroup$
      nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
      $endgroup$
      – moonboots
      6 hours ago




      $begingroup$
      nice, but instead of crease, which hurts, maybe you can finish by some bevels, first on the edges all around then on the crest, this one seems to work: zupimages.net/up/19/09/urwa.jpg
      $endgroup$
      – moonboots
      6 hours ago












      $begingroup$
      @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
      $endgroup$
      – Robin Betts
      6 hours ago






      $begingroup$
      @moonboots Quite right. Shall I staple it into the answer? Probably best here in the comment.
      $endgroup$
      – Robin Betts
      6 hours ago














      $begingroup$
      yes sure do it!
      $endgroup$
      – moonboots
      6 hours ago




      $begingroup$
      yes sure do it!
      $endgroup$
      – moonboots
      6 hours ago













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      $begingroup$

      Here is a way to make a crown, maybe there's a simpler?




      • Build a basic cube, delete its two side faces, give it a Mirror modifier.

      • Drag up its central edge, add 3 vertical edge loops.

      • Add some additional edge loops close to the angles so that it will sharp them later.

      • Give your object an Array modifier. Choose a Count of 4. Enable the Merge option.

      • Give your object a Simple Deform modifier / Bend mode. Choose an Angle value of 360°. If it doesn't turn around the Z axis, apply the rotation of your object.

      • At last, give your object a Subsurf modifier (and press the Smooth Shading button on the Tools panel).

      • Move a bit your edges with GG to sharp the crest and the low of the crown.

      • Apply the modifiers (except the Subsurf if possible), remove the doubles (where the 360° joint happens).


      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer











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        $begingroup$

        Here is a way to make a crown, maybe there's a simpler?




        • Build a basic cube, delete its two side faces, give it a Mirror modifier.

        • Drag up its central edge, add 3 vertical edge loops.

        • Add some additional edge loops close to the angles so that it will sharp them later.

        • Give your object an Array modifier. Choose a Count of 4. Enable the Merge option.

        • Give your object a Simple Deform modifier / Bend mode. Choose an Angle value of 360°. If it doesn't turn around the Z axis, apply the rotation of your object.

        • At last, give your object a Subsurf modifier (and press the Smooth Shading button on the Tools panel).

        • Move a bit your edges with GG to sharp the crest and the low of the crown.

        • Apply the modifiers (except the Subsurf if possible), remove the doubles (where the 360° joint happens).


        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$
















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          $begingroup$

          Here is a way to make a crown, maybe there's a simpler?




          • Build a basic cube, delete its two side faces, give it a Mirror modifier.

          • Drag up its central edge, add 3 vertical edge loops.

          • Add some additional edge loops close to the angles so that it will sharp them later.

          • Give your object an Array modifier. Choose a Count of 4. Enable the Merge option.

          • Give your object a Simple Deform modifier / Bend mode. Choose an Angle value of 360°. If it doesn't turn around the Z axis, apply the rotation of your object.

          • At last, give your object a Subsurf modifier (and press the Smooth Shading button on the Tools panel).

          • Move a bit your edges with GG to sharp the crest and the low of the crown.

          • Apply the modifiers (except the Subsurf if possible), remove the doubles (where the 360° joint happens).


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Here is a way to make a crown, maybe there's a simpler?




          • Build a basic cube, delete its two side faces, give it a Mirror modifier.

          • Drag up its central edge, add 3 vertical edge loops.

          • Add some additional edge loops close to the angles so that it will sharp them later.

          • Give your object an Array modifier. Choose a Count of 4. Enable the Merge option.

          • Give your object a Simple Deform modifier / Bend mode. Choose an Angle value of 360°. If it doesn't turn around the Z axis, apply the rotation of your object.

          • At last, give your object a Subsurf modifier (and press the Smooth Shading button on the Tools panel).

          • Move a bit your edges with GG to sharp the crest and the low of the crown.

          • Apply the modifiers (except the Subsurf if possible), remove the doubles (where the 360° joint happens).


          enter image description here







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



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          edited 7 hours ago

























          answered 8 hours ago









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              3












              $begingroup$

              add a subsurface modifier, select some edges and crease the edges
              enter image description here



              enter image description here



              it's a little easier of you crease the entire thing, then select a few edges and reduce the crease where you want it softer or rounder.



              creasing is quite versatile :D



              enter image description here






              share|improve this answer











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                That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
                $endgroup$
                – Kroltan
                3 hours ago
















              3












              $begingroup$

              add a subsurface modifier, select some edges and crease the edges
              enter image description here



              enter image description here



              it's a little easier of you crease the entire thing, then select a few edges and reduce the crease where you want it softer or rounder.



              creasing is quite versatile :D



              enter image description here






              share|improve this answer











              $endgroup$









              • 2




                $begingroup$
                That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
                $endgroup$
                – Kroltan
                3 hours ago














              3












              3








              3





              $begingroup$

              add a subsurface modifier, select some edges and crease the edges
              enter image description here



              enter image description here



              it's a little easier of you crease the entire thing, then select a few edges and reduce the crease where you want it softer or rounder.



              creasing is quite versatile :D



              enter image description here






              share|improve this answer











              $endgroup$



              add a subsurface modifier, select some edges and crease the edges
              enter image description here



              enter image description here



              it's a little easier of you crease the entire thing, then select a few edges and reduce the crease where you want it softer or rounder.



              creasing is quite versatile :D



              enter image description here







              share|improve this answer














              share|improve this answer



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                That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
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                – Kroltan
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                That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
                $endgroup$
                – Kroltan
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              That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
              $endgroup$
              – Kroltan
              3 hours ago




              $begingroup$
              That's the most appropriate non-destructive solution
              $endgroup$
              – Kroltan
              3 hours ago











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              Add in more loop cuts on the subsurf mod. That should do it. I take it that smooth shading doesn't work?






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                  Add in more loop cuts on the subsurf mod. That should do it. I take it that smooth shading doesn't work?






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                      Alcedinidae Martin-pêcheur à dos bleu ( Alcedo azurea ) Classification (COI) Règne Animalia Embranchement Chordata Sous-embr. Vertebrata Classe Aves Ordre Coraciiformes Famille Alcedinidae Rafinesque, 1815 Les Alcédinidés ou Alcedinidae forment une famille d'oiseaux plus connus sous les noms de martins-pêcheurs et martins-chasseurs. Sommaire 1 Description 2 Répartition et habitat 3 Systématique 3.1 Liste alphabétique des genres 3.2 Liste des espèces 4 Chez les Anciens : l'alcyon 4.1 Étymologie (Littré) 4.2 Oiseau « fabuleux » ? 5 Notes 6 Articles connexes 7 Liens externes 7.1 Bibliographie Description | Ce sont des oiseaux compacts de taille petite à moyenne (10 à 46 cm), au bec droit et long, en forme de poignard. Leurs pattes sont courtes, et ils portent un plumage aux couleurs vives. Répartition et habitat | Cosmopolites, ils fréquentent surtout ...
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                      Origin of the phrase “under your belt”?

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                      .everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty{ margin-bottom:0; } 17 1 Today, I found myself discussing what students should have "under their belts" during a lecture, and I wondered to myself if there was some inappropriate undertone here that I might be unaware of. Question : What is the origin of the phrase "under your belt"? A google search revealed some webpages (e.g. [1]) that assert its origin is related to consumption of food -- once a meal has been eaten, it's under your belt (which is a relief). However, with such websites, I have no way to determine fact from "random guy on the internet making stuff up". etymology idioms ...
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