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As a child I remember reading a book set in the future where Britain had been split into 2, I think with a wall down the middle. On the one side they embraced high technology and nothing was done manually, whereas the other side were totally against technology. The story is based around a boy from the technological side who somehow ends up on the other side of the "wall", I think driven by a fascination for reading "proper" books.










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As a child I remember reading a book set in the future where Britain had been split into 2, I think with a wall down the middle. On the one side they embraced high technology and nothing was done manually, whereas the other side were totally against technology. The story is based around a boy from the technological side who somehow ends up on the other side of the "wall", I think driven by a fascination for reading "proper" books.










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  • Can you edit your post to include anything else you may remember? For example, you say you remember reading this as a child, when was that?

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  • Is the boy able to control weather by going into a trance? If so, I believe I have read it, though I don't recall neither author nor title.

    – Klaus Æ. Mogensen
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  • Can you edit your post to include anything else you may remember? For example, you say you remember reading this as a child, when was that?

    – TheLethalCarrot
    15 hours ago











  • Is the boy able to control weather by going into a trance? If so, I believe I have read it, though I don't recall neither author nor title.

    – Klaus Æ. Mogensen
    14 hours ago

















Can you edit your post to include anything else you may remember? For example, you say you remember reading this as a child, when was that?

– TheLethalCarrot
15 hours ago





Can you edit your post to include anything else you may remember? For example, you say you remember reading this as a child, when was that?

– TheLethalCarrot
15 hours ago













Is the boy able to control weather by going into a trance? If so, I believe I have read it, though I don't recall neither author nor title.

– Klaus Æ. Mogensen
14 hours ago





Is the boy able to control weather by going into a trance? If so, I believe I have read it, though I don't recall neither author nor title.

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This sounds like the young-adult novel The Guardians (Wikipedia • ISFDB) by John Christopher, published in 1970. Here's a short summary from Wikipedia:




Set in the year 2052, it depicts an authoritarian England divided into two distinct societies: the modern, overpopulated "Conurbs" and the aristocratic, rarefied "County". Crowded city districts and all-pervasive technology make up the Conurbs while manors and rolling countrysides typical of 19th-century England make up the County. The story follows a young Conurban orphan named Rob as he experiences life in both worlds, uncovering truths and choosing sides in the process.




And this review provides some information on the barrier between the two societies:




A tall, electrified fence separates the County from the Conurb, stretching across the entire country, and no one on either side lives within several miles of it.







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    I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

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This may be Arthur C. Clarke's The City and the Stars as per Story where everyone lives in a walled city run by machines; another part of the planet has "non technology" people and Story about an intelligent, walled city; people are reproduced by machines, protagonist rebels and tries to leave.



Book Cover - *The City and the Stars*




The City and the Stars takes place one billion years in the future, in the city of Diaspar. By this time, the Earth is so old that the oceans have gone and humanity has all but left. As far as the people of Diaspar know, theirs is the only city left on the planet. The city of Diaspar is completely enclosed. Nobody has come in or left the city for as long as anybody can remember, and everybody in Diaspar has an instinctive insular conservatism. The story behind this fear of venturing outside the city tells of a race of ruthless invaders which beat humanity back from the stars to Earth, and then made a deal that humanity could live—if they never left the planet.



In Diaspar, the entire city is run by the Central Computer. Not only is the city repaired by machines, but the people themselves are created by the machines as well. The computer creates bodies for the people of Diaspar to live in and stores their minds in its memory at the end of their lives. At any time, only a small number of these people are actually living in Diaspar; the rest are retained in the computer's memory banks.



All the currently existent people of Diaspar have had past "lives" within Diaspar except one person—Alvin, the main character of this story. He is one of only a very small number of "Uniques", different from everybody else in Diaspar, not only because he does not have any past lives to remember, but because instead of fearing the outside, he feels compelled to leave. Alvin has just come to the age where he is considered grown up, and is putting all his energies into trying to find a way out. Eventually, a character called Khedron the Jester helps Alvin use the central computer to find a way out of the city of Diaspar. This involves the discovery that in the remote past, Diaspar was linked to other cities by an underground transport system. This system still exists although its terminal was covered over and sealed with only a secret entrance left.



Once out of Diaspar, Alvin finds that one other human habitation remains on Earth. In contrast to technological Diaspar, Lys is a vast green oasis shielded by mountains from the worldwide desert. Its people are not stored and recreated technologically, but naturally conceive, are born, age, and die. They have rejected the hyper-advanced technology of Diaspar in favor of an almost agrarian existence, with machines used only for labor-saving purposes. The people of Lys have instead worked to perfect the arts of the mind; they are telepaths, capable of communicating with each other over great distances and without words....




It is a rewrite of Against the Fall of Night. I remembered seeing someone posting about it before, and located the old question.






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This sounds like the young-adult novel The Guardians (Wikipedia • ISFDB) by John Christopher, published in 1970. Here's a short summary from Wikipedia:




Set in the year 2052, it depicts an authoritarian England divided into two distinct societies: the modern, overpopulated "Conurbs" and the aristocratic, rarefied "County". Crowded city districts and all-pervasive technology make up the Conurbs while manors and rolling countrysides typical of 19th-century England make up the County. The story follows a young Conurban orphan named Rob as he experiences life in both worlds, uncovering truths and choosing sides in the process.




And this review provides some information on the barrier between the two societies:




A tall, electrified fence separates the County from the Conurb, stretching across the entire country, and no one on either side lives within several miles of it.







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    I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

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This sounds like the young-adult novel The Guardians (Wikipedia • ISFDB) by John Christopher, published in 1970. Here's a short summary from Wikipedia:




Set in the year 2052, it depicts an authoritarian England divided into two distinct societies: the modern, overpopulated "Conurbs" and the aristocratic, rarefied "County". Crowded city districts and all-pervasive technology make up the Conurbs while manors and rolling countrysides typical of 19th-century England make up the County. The story follows a young Conurban orphan named Rob as he experiences life in both worlds, uncovering truths and choosing sides in the process.




And this review provides some information on the barrier between the two societies:




A tall, electrified fence separates the County from the Conurb, stretching across the entire country, and no one on either side lives within several miles of it.







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    I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

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This sounds like the young-adult novel The Guardians (Wikipedia • ISFDB) by John Christopher, published in 1970. Here's a short summary from Wikipedia:




Set in the year 2052, it depicts an authoritarian England divided into two distinct societies: the modern, overpopulated "Conurbs" and the aristocratic, rarefied "County". Crowded city districts and all-pervasive technology make up the Conurbs while manors and rolling countrysides typical of 19th-century England make up the County. The story follows a young Conurban orphan named Rob as he experiences life in both worlds, uncovering truths and choosing sides in the process.




And this review provides some information on the barrier between the two societies:




A tall, electrified fence separates the County from the Conurb, stretching across the entire country, and no one on either side lives within several miles of it.







share|improve this answer













This sounds like the young-adult novel The Guardians (Wikipedia • ISFDB) by John Christopher, published in 1970. Here's a short summary from Wikipedia:




Set in the year 2052, it depicts an authoritarian England divided into two distinct societies: the modern, overpopulated "Conurbs" and the aristocratic, rarefied "County". Crowded city districts and all-pervasive technology make up the Conurbs while manors and rolling countrysides typical of 19th-century England make up the County. The story follows a young Conurban orphan named Rob as he experiences life in both worlds, uncovering truths and choosing sides in the process.




And this review provides some information on the barrier between the two societies:




A tall, electrified fence separates the County from the Conurb, stretching across the entire country, and no one on either side lives within several miles of it.








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    I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

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    I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

    – Pelinore
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I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

– Pelinore
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I had this thought too [+], delayed looking for it too long though, probably wouldn't have been able to find it before you posted anyway of course :) the wall's not so much "down the middle" as around each conurb of course, at least that's the impression that remains with me from my memory of reading it.

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This may be Arthur C. Clarke's The City and the Stars as per Story where everyone lives in a walled city run by machines; another part of the planet has "non technology" people and Story about an intelligent, walled city; people are reproduced by machines, protagonist rebels and tries to leave.



Book Cover - *The City and the Stars*




The City and the Stars takes place one billion years in the future, in the city of Diaspar. By this time, the Earth is so old that the oceans have gone and humanity has all but left. As far as the people of Diaspar know, theirs is the only city left on the planet. The city of Diaspar is completely enclosed. Nobody has come in or left the city for as long as anybody can remember, and everybody in Diaspar has an instinctive insular conservatism. The story behind this fear of venturing outside the city tells of a race of ruthless invaders which beat humanity back from the stars to Earth, and then made a deal that humanity could live—if they never left the planet.



In Diaspar, the entire city is run by the Central Computer. Not only is the city repaired by machines, but the people themselves are created by the machines as well. The computer creates bodies for the people of Diaspar to live in and stores their minds in its memory at the end of their lives. At any time, only a small number of these people are actually living in Diaspar; the rest are retained in the computer's memory banks.



All the currently existent people of Diaspar have had past "lives" within Diaspar except one person—Alvin, the main character of this story. He is one of only a very small number of "Uniques", different from everybody else in Diaspar, not only because he does not have any past lives to remember, but because instead of fearing the outside, he feels compelled to leave. Alvin has just come to the age where he is considered grown up, and is putting all his energies into trying to find a way out. Eventually, a character called Khedron the Jester helps Alvin use the central computer to find a way out of the city of Diaspar. This involves the discovery that in the remote past, Diaspar was linked to other cities by an underground transport system. This system still exists although its terminal was covered over and sealed with only a secret entrance left.



Once out of Diaspar, Alvin finds that one other human habitation remains on Earth. In contrast to technological Diaspar, Lys is a vast green oasis shielded by mountains from the worldwide desert. Its people are not stored and recreated technologically, but naturally conceive, are born, age, and die. They have rejected the hyper-advanced technology of Diaspar in favor of an almost agrarian existence, with machines used only for labor-saving purposes. The people of Lys have instead worked to perfect the arts of the mind; they are telepaths, capable of communicating with each other over great distances and without words....




It is a rewrite of Against the Fall of Night. I remembered seeing someone posting about it before, and located the old question.






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  • A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

    – Pelinore
    5 hours ago













  • Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

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This may be Arthur C. Clarke's The City and the Stars as per Story where everyone lives in a walled city run by machines; another part of the planet has "non technology" people and Story about an intelligent, walled city; people are reproduced by machines, protagonist rebels and tries to leave.



Book Cover - *The City and the Stars*




The City and the Stars takes place one billion years in the future, in the city of Diaspar. By this time, the Earth is so old that the oceans have gone and humanity has all but left. As far as the people of Diaspar know, theirs is the only city left on the planet. The city of Diaspar is completely enclosed. Nobody has come in or left the city for as long as anybody can remember, and everybody in Diaspar has an instinctive insular conservatism. The story behind this fear of venturing outside the city tells of a race of ruthless invaders which beat humanity back from the stars to Earth, and then made a deal that humanity could live—if they never left the planet.



In Diaspar, the entire city is run by the Central Computer. Not only is the city repaired by machines, but the people themselves are created by the machines as well. The computer creates bodies for the people of Diaspar to live in and stores their minds in its memory at the end of their lives. At any time, only a small number of these people are actually living in Diaspar; the rest are retained in the computer's memory banks.



All the currently existent people of Diaspar have had past "lives" within Diaspar except one person—Alvin, the main character of this story. He is one of only a very small number of "Uniques", different from everybody else in Diaspar, not only because he does not have any past lives to remember, but because instead of fearing the outside, he feels compelled to leave. Alvin has just come to the age where he is considered grown up, and is putting all his energies into trying to find a way out. Eventually, a character called Khedron the Jester helps Alvin use the central computer to find a way out of the city of Diaspar. This involves the discovery that in the remote past, Diaspar was linked to other cities by an underground transport system. This system still exists although its terminal was covered over and sealed with only a secret entrance left.



Once out of Diaspar, Alvin finds that one other human habitation remains on Earth. In contrast to technological Diaspar, Lys is a vast green oasis shielded by mountains from the worldwide desert. Its people are not stored and recreated technologically, but naturally conceive, are born, age, and die. They have rejected the hyper-advanced technology of Diaspar in favor of an almost agrarian existence, with machines used only for labor-saving purposes. The people of Lys have instead worked to perfect the arts of the mind; they are telepaths, capable of communicating with each other over great distances and without words....




It is a rewrite of Against the Fall of Night. I remembered seeing someone posting about it before, and located the old question.






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  • A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

    – Pelinore
    5 hours ago













  • Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

    – FuzzyBoots
    5 hours ago
















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This may be Arthur C. Clarke's The City and the Stars as per Story where everyone lives in a walled city run by machines; another part of the planet has "non technology" people and Story about an intelligent, walled city; people are reproduced by machines, protagonist rebels and tries to leave.



Book Cover - *The City and the Stars*




The City and the Stars takes place one billion years in the future, in the city of Diaspar. By this time, the Earth is so old that the oceans have gone and humanity has all but left. As far as the people of Diaspar know, theirs is the only city left on the planet. The city of Diaspar is completely enclosed. Nobody has come in or left the city for as long as anybody can remember, and everybody in Diaspar has an instinctive insular conservatism. The story behind this fear of venturing outside the city tells of a race of ruthless invaders which beat humanity back from the stars to Earth, and then made a deal that humanity could live—if they never left the planet.



In Diaspar, the entire city is run by the Central Computer. Not only is the city repaired by machines, but the people themselves are created by the machines as well. The computer creates bodies for the people of Diaspar to live in and stores their minds in its memory at the end of their lives. At any time, only a small number of these people are actually living in Diaspar; the rest are retained in the computer's memory banks.



All the currently existent people of Diaspar have had past "lives" within Diaspar except one person—Alvin, the main character of this story. He is one of only a very small number of "Uniques", different from everybody else in Diaspar, not only because he does not have any past lives to remember, but because instead of fearing the outside, he feels compelled to leave. Alvin has just come to the age where he is considered grown up, and is putting all his energies into trying to find a way out. Eventually, a character called Khedron the Jester helps Alvin use the central computer to find a way out of the city of Diaspar. This involves the discovery that in the remote past, Diaspar was linked to other cities by an underground transport system. This system still exists although its terminal was covered over and sealed with only a secret entrance left.



Once out of Diaspar, Alvin finds that one other human habitation remains on Earth. In contrast to technological Diaspar, Lys is a vast green oasis shielded by mountains from the worldwide desert. Its people are not stored and recreated technologically, but naturally conceive, are born, age, and die. They have rejected the hyper-advanced technology of Diaspar in favor of an almost agrarian existence, with machines used only for labor-saving purposes. The people of Lys have instead worked to perfect the arts of the mind; they are telepaths, capable of communicating with each other over great distances and without words....




It is a rewrite of Against the Fall of Night. I remembered seeing someone posting about it before, and located the old question.






share|improve this answer













This may be Arthur C. Clarke's The City and the Stars as per Story where everyone lives in a walled city run by machines; another part of the planet has "non technology" people and Story about an intelligent, walled city; people are reproduced by machines, protagonist rebels and tries to leave.



Book Cover - *The City and the Stars*




The City and the Stars takes place one billion years in the future, in the city of Diaspar. By this time, the Earth is so old that the oceans have gone and humanity has all but left. As far as the people of Diaspar know, theirs is the only city left on the planet. The city of Diaspar is completely enclosed. Nobody has come in or left the city for as long as anybody can remember, and everybody in Diaspar has an instinctive insular conservatism. The story behind this fear of venturing outside the city tells of a race of ruthless invaders which beat humanity back from the stars to Earth, and then made a deal that humanity could live—if they never left the planet.



In Diaspar, the entire city is run by the Central Computer. Not only is the city repaired by machines, but the people themselves are created by the machines as well. The computer creates bodies for the people of Diaspar to live in and stores their minds in its memory at the end of their lives. At any time, only a small number of these people are actually living in Diaspar; the rest are retained in the computer's memory banks.



All the currently existent people of Diaspar have had past "lives" within Diaspar except one person—Alvin, the main character of this story. He is one of only a very small number of "Uniques", different from everybody else in Diaspar, not only because he does not have any past lives to remember, but because instead of fearing the outside, he feels compelled to leave. Alvin has just come to the age where he is considered grown up, and is putting all his energies into trying to find a way out. Eventually, a character called Khedron the Jester helps Alvin use the central computer to find a way out of the city of Diaspar. This involves the discovery that in the remote past, Diaspar was linked to other cities by an underground transport system. This system still exists although its terminal was covered over and sealed with only a secret entrance left.



Once out of Diaspar, Alvin finds that one other human habitation remains on Earth. In contrast to technological Diaspar, Lys is a vast green oasis shielded by mountains from the worldwide desert. Its people are not stored and recreated technologically, but naturally conceive, are born, age, and die. They have rejected the hyper-advanced technology of Diaspar in favor of an almost agrarian existence, with machines used only for labor-saving purposes. The people of Lys have instead worked to perfect the arts of the mind; they are telepaths, capable of communicating with each other over great distances and without words....




It is a rewrite of Against the Fall of Night. I remembered seeing someone posting about it before, and located the old question.







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  • A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

    – Pelinore
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  • Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

    – FuzzyBoots
    5 hours ago





















  • A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

    – Pelinore
    5 hours ago













  • Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

    – FuzzyBoots
    5 hours ago



















A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

– Pelinore
5 hours ago







A nice jab at it but it's not set in "Britain" as detailed by OP is it?

– Pelinore
5 hours ago















Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

– FuzzyBoots
5 hours ago







Nope. But it does work as a partial answer. :) I think Ubik likely had the right of it.

– FuzzyBoots
5 hours ago












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