What word assigns two listed qualities to two previously listed objects in that order?
Apologies if the question is poorly worded. I'm trying to write a biology paper and I've absolutely blanked on the word that would follow this sentence
"...light dependent and independent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and enzymes _______"
to indicate that light-dependent reactions use thylakoid membranes and light-independent reactions use enzymes. I've tried googling it but I can't seem to figure out the right keywords to find it. Cheers.
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Apologies if the question is poorly worded. I'm trying to write a biology paper and I've absolutely blanked on the word that would follow this sentence
"...light dependent and independent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and enzymes _______"
to indicate that light-dependent reactions use thylakoid membranes and light-independent reactions use enzymes. I've tried googling it but I can't seem to figure out the right keywords to find it. Cheers.
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respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
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@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago
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Apologies if the question is poorly worded. I'm trying to write a biology paper and I've absolutely blanked on the word that would follow this sentence
"...light dependent and independent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and enzymes _______"
to indicate that light-dependent reactions use thylakoid membranes and light-independent reactions use enzymes. I've tried googling it but I can't seem to figure out the right keywords to find it. Cheers.
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Apologies if the question is poorly worded. I'm trying to write a biology paper and I've absolutely blanked on the word that would follow this sentence
"...light dependent and independent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and enzymes _______"
to indicate that light-dependent reactions use thylakoid membranes and light-independent reactions use enzymes. I've tried googling it but I can't seem to figure out the right keywords to find it. Cheers.
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respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
3
@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago
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respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
3
@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago
respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
3
3
@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago
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respectively. But, as a lot of people don't understand that construction, it might be better to just rewrite the sentence to be explicit; something like: "light dependent reactions take place using thylakoid membranes and independent reactions using enzymes"
– James Random
7 hours ago
3
@JamesRandom If people "don't understand" then they will have to learn. Who are we dealing with here, 7-year-old children? "Respectively" doesn't involve rocket science, does it?
– WS2
7 hours ago
@WS2 The purpose of writing is (usually) to communicate ideas. If one uses vocabulary or grammatical structures that are unfamiliar to a large number of people, then maybe the writing won't achieve its goal. I saw some figures (far too long ago to be able to find again) that showed that a very large proportion of people do not understand sentences using "respectively" in that way. (I was surprised.) As this appears to be academic writing, maybe most readers would understand it. However, based on how often I have seen it misused by non-native speakers, they may also have problems with it.
– James Random
7 hours ago
"Respectively" is clearly correct. Still, it's not a good idea to use "[verb] [adjective] [noun] and [noun]," as in "using thylakoid membranes and enzymes," unless the adjective modifies both nouns, as in "The contract confers certain rights and privileges." The native speaker's brain expects the adjective to apply to both nouns, so, when "respectively" comes along to say otherwise, the reader must reorient his internal interpreter, something that good writing, even technical writing, should not make necessary, So I second James Random's suggestion.
– remarkl
7 hours ago
@remarkl That is a matter of terminology within the topic domain. If "thylakoid enzymes" aren't a thing that makes sense, no one would make that assumption. However, if the intent is to clearly say "enzymes" (and not "thylakoid enzymes"), the example can just switch the order, i.e., "light independent and dependent reactions using enzymes and thylakoid membranes, respectively". Anyway, back to the discussion at hand, "respectively" is absolutely the right word to use here, and the suggestion that foreign readers might not understand its use should not discourage the use. That's the right word.
– R Mac
2 hours ago