What is dedjatch?
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
meaning
asked Dec 15 at 20:30
P. Vowk
19110
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
Dec 15 at 21:09
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20
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up vote
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up vote
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Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
meaning
asked Dec 15 at 20:30
P. Vowk
19110
Reading Rimbaud's letters and biography, there's a sentence:
"I will feel that the Dedjatch has robbed me to the tune of 866"
I fail to find the meaning of the word in the dictionaries, help me understand it, please? Is it some local term?
meaning
meaning
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P. Vowk
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
Dec 15 at 21:09
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20
add a comment |
2
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
Dec 15 at 21:09
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20
2
2
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
Dec 15 at 21:09
Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
– Mitch
Dec 15 at 21:09
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20
@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered Dec 15 at 22:00
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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Dec 15 at 22:20
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered Dec 15 at 20:54
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– Dlayd
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as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
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Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered Dec 15 at 22:00
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
Dec 15 at 22:20
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered Dec 15 at 22:00
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
Dec 15 at 22:20
add a comment |
up vote
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accepted
up vote
18
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In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered Dec 15 at 22:00
Mitch
49.9k1599209
In Amharic, the primary language in Ethiopia (or Abyssinia at the time of Rimbaud's writing), Dejazmatch or ጽጅዝምች (sometimes Dejatch) means literally
Keeper of the Gate
or more in terms of functioning role, translated as
Governor General
or even
Prince
The spelling 'Dedjatch' is presumably a francophone spelling ('dj' is how the French spell the rare in French voiced palatal affricate which is 'j' in English).
Searching for 'dejatch' yields many sources saying "Prince (Dedatch) Alemayehu" or just "Prince Alemayehu", and the interpretation that 'Dejatch' is a title of nobility works in all the contexts it is mentioned in those texts.
The usual term for 'prince' in Amharic is ልዑል= liuli, the son of the emperor. But translation and cultural choices can be arbitrary and the English (and French and Italian) somehow settled on 'prince' in this situation.
The list of titles of nobility in Abyssinia gives the real correspondence.
answered Dec 15 at 22:00
Mitch
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Nice answer, monsieur!
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
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Nice answer, monsieur!
– Kiloran_speaking
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered Dec 15 at 20:54
Dlayd
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– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
4
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
2
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
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up vote
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered Dec 15 at 20:54
Dlayd
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
4
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
2
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered Dec 15 at 20:54
Dlayd
93
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Dlayd is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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After doing a google search for "dedjatch definition" I found this:
"In the 19th century, an Irob family, the Soubagadis, played a critical
role in Tigray’s power reconfiguration and in the regional history of
political rivalries. Dedjatch Soubagadis (1816-1830) managed to gain
ascendancy over other potential candidates through his warrior’s
skills and political astuteness. For the Irob, as a minority group in
Tigray, this marked a moment of political ascendancy in a region
dominated by the majority ethnic group, the Tigrayans."
I'm not sure of the correlation but the time frame is roughly the same. Perhaps he was using the proper noun as a verb.
answered Dec 15 at 20:54
Dlayd
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Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
4
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
2
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
add a comment |
Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
4
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
2
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
Source: books.openedition.org/cei/222?lang=en
– Dlayd
Dec 15 at 20:54
4
4
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
as for me, this answer doesn't explain what dedjatch is.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:22
2
2
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
Yeah, this is definitely a comment rather than an answer.
– V2Blast
Dec 16 at 2:33
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
This does not provide an answer to the question. Once you have sufficient reputation you will be able to comment on any post; instead, provide answers that don't require clarification from the asker. - From Review
– Chappo
Dec 16 at 7:01
add a comment |
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Which letter/biography? Is this in translation or original? What was the sentence/paragraph before? etc etc. Just asking for context (because this is definitely not a common English term.
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@Mitch I've added the links.
– P. Vowk
Dec 15 at 21:20