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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space, and is located relative near to our solar system. So that travelers from Earth make first contact to a modern society that had no idea there was an outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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    In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
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    Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
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    @Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space, and is located relative near to our solar system. So that travelers from Earth make first contact to a modern society that had no idea there was an outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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    Jan 2 at 23:25






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    In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
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    Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
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    @Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space, and is located relative near to our solar system. So that travelers from Earth make first contact to a modern society that had no idea there was an outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space, and is located relative near to our solar system. So that travelers from Earth make first contact to a modern society that had no idea there was an outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.







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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
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    Jan 2 at 21:31






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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
    – StephenG
    Jan 2 at 23:25






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    In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
    – CJ Dennis
    2 days ago








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    Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
    – NofP
    2 days ago






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    @Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
    – JBH
    Jan 2 at 21:31






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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
    – StephenG
    Jan 2 at 23:25






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    In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
    – CJ Dennis
    2 days ago








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    Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
    – NofP
    2 days ago






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    @Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
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No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
– JBH
Jan 2 at 21:31




No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
– JBH
Jan 2 at 21:31




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I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
– CJ Dennis
2 days ago






In The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, there is a planet called Krikkit. Due to a dust cloud surrounding the planet, the inhabitants see no stars and are unaware of the existence of the larger universe. They had no interest in exploring the universe because they didn't realise it existed.
– CJ Dennis
2 days ago






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Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
– NofP
2 days ago




Ladies and gentlemen, we finally found where all the dark matter of the universe has been hiding....
– NofP
2 days ago




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@Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
– Ethan Kaminski
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@Renan Can you explain why it might be a duplicate? The two questions look very different to me. Individual answers might work for both, but the questions appear different.
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Dust cloud.



The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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    An answer that Hactar would be proud of
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    @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
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    @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
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    @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
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    Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
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Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the sphere?






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    Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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    For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
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    You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
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    @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
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    An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
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One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



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    @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
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    @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
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    @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
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    I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
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    @jpmc26 Candles?
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It is never night.



midnight sun
https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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    Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
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    There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
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    I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
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    @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
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  • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
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The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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    :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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    Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
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    hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
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there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
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vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
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    I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
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  • @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
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  • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
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    @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
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  • Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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    The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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      It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



      No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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        The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
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        Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
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      • @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
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        @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
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      The people have eyes that only see sharp nearby. Everything is blurry to them on (very) long distance. It would not be too much of a disadvantage in normal life, but it would prevent them from seeing stars. Only after they develop reliable lenses, they would discover that stars exist.






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      • A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
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      • I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
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      • To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
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        @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
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      The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




      • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

      • One sun, and many moons

      • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

      • Underground or underwater societies.

      • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

      • Monsters that come out at sunset

      • taboo/superstition/religion

      • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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        I don't know if that counts or not as 'affecting/messing with atmosphere', but I've decided to reply anyway.



        There's a layer of gas in the atmosphere that diffuses the light.



        Light is still capable of passing, but it is randomly diffused before getting into the surface of the planet. The day would still be very well illuminated, but they wouldn't see the sun itself: they wouldn't see a bright ball up in the sky as the source of such illumination. As for the night, no stars, and darkness.



        If there's a moon, the same thing from the day will happen: one won't be able to see moon itself, and a far lower intensity light reaches the surface, faintly illuminating the surface.






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          Most of the answers so far seem to be ignoring the requirements that there be sunset or that the atmosphere behave differently.



          A large dust cloud surrounding the solar system seems like the most reasonable way to achieve what you want since it doesn't directly affect anything within it. Its origin and how long it will persist are for you to work out.



          But whatever solution you decide on, it sounds like the driving force in the story will be the reaction of those people to this new revelation. If so, make sure you come up with something new and don't appear to be copying how society reacted in Asimov's "Nightfall" (which used multiple suns to make total darkness almost impossible).






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            First idea: Their visual organs use a different method of "seeing".



            You could make it so that your planet's inhabitants can't see, or some variant thereof.



            I don't mean to say that the people are blind, but rather they have other organs that can "see" that would serve a similar purpose, but might seem magical to us. For example, if they were to inspect a sheet of paper, they might be able to easily detect tiny folds and creases in the paper, while the image on the sheet would be invisible to them.



            To them, a pure-white rabbit on pure-white snow stands out clearly, whereas the pictures and text of a highway billboard sign are hidden to them, precisely because there is no "three-dimensional-ness" to distinguish the images from the board itself.



            To them, the sky might look perfectly flat (or maybe even perfectly dome-shaped). As for their sun, they can either perceive it using another sense, or maybe its special case of being abnormally huge (compared to anything else they are familiar with) is enough to make them perceive it.



            (If you can see those 3-D stereo images, you might understand what I'm getting at. When you succeed in seeing those images, you'll notice that you're perceiving three-dimensional shapes instead of colors. A starry sky wouldn't work too well in those 3-D stereo images, but a sun in the middle of the sky might.)



            This could be similar to sonar; for example, a dolphin could detect a sheet of paper in the water no matter how dark or murky its surroundings -- however, it wouldn't be able to use sonar to perceive the picture drawn on the sheet of paper.



            Second idea: Their visual organs perceive different wavelengths of light than ours do.



            The inhabitants could have eyes (or similar organs), but see a different spectrum of light than us. And it just so happens that 99.9% of stars in the universe display light in the parts of the spectrum they can't see.



            Their sun, however, is one of those 0.1% of stars that they can see.



            You could even say that they evolved/adapted the ability to see their sun's light precisely because it comes from their own sun. (So why have a need to see other light?)






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              You could toy around with the idea that your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian Point of a very large, non-reflective planet. As the society's planet orbits on its axis and brings the society to their own planet's dark side, they would see only the large dark planet in their sky, which would appear to them only as pitch black.



              However, there is a significant window of time (particularly around sunrise and sunset) where they could still see the dark of night (including the stars) which is not covered by the large dark planet. If you're daring, you could make the dark planet a very non-dense, stretched out object that acts as a sort of visual shield around the dark side of the society's planet.



              Sure, having such a large object in a non-spherical shape seems like a stretch, but maybe there are some special cases in this universe where that could happen. (After all, we already have Saturn, whose rings are quite visibly wider than Jupiter itself, but definitely not spherical.) Maybe the large, un-dense planet could have a large set of (seemingly solid) pitch-black rings. Or maybe it could have some other sort of shape anomaly more common than planetary rings, but that we're not familiar with simply because no planet in our own solar system happens to have it.



              To put it another way, if Saturn didn't exist, we wouldn't have all those pretty artistic night-sky renderings with ringed planets (despite the fact that ringed planets do exist outside our solar system). So what other pretty astronomical sights are we not including in our artistic night-sky renderings, simply because they don't exist in our solar system, making us not aware of them?



              In other words, just because something is planet-sized, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be shaped like a sphere.



              Some ancient civilizations (here on Earth) thought that our sky was literally a dome. So maybe your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian point of a non-light-reflecting partial dome.






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                There could be intelligent life living under the ice on Enceladus right now. The thick ice would prevent them seeing stars.



                Similarly, the habitable zone of your planet might be entirely underground.






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                  HG Wells had a valley populated by blind people. They had no concept of daylight, so slept in the warmth(day) and worked in the cold(night)



                  Because the 'hero' couldn't see at night, he was less capable than any of them.






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                    This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                  • Did you actually read the question?
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                    @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                  • This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                  If you are on an isolated star in the middle of the Boötes Void (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boötes_void) you would not see a single star or galaxy with the naked eye.



                  BTW - have you ever read Iain M. Banks' Against A Dark Background?






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                  Since many good physical explanations were given, let me provide some lateral thinking sort of answer.



                  The reason there are no stars is that they live in a giant simulated universe and there's not enough processing power and memory to simulate a full universe, just that solar system with just that one planet. So the sky is dark at night. The humans which are visiting are in fact those running the simulator.






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                    I would suggest that their solar system is passing through a relatively very dense dust cloud in interstellar space, as others have suggested.



                    Their solar system would have been passing through it for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, long enough that the intelligent beings living there have no possible way to remember that their pre-intelligent ancestors ever saw stars in the sky.



                    The gravity of their star system has been pulling in the interstellar dust so that there is a clear cylinder of space pointing out of the dust cloud back the way they came. So that direction should point out toward intergalactic space with only a few stars in their galaxy and no globular star clusters, other galaxies, or intergalactic stars in the light of sight.



                    The in falling dust doesn't fall all the way to the star, however. At at certain distance range light from the star and particles in the stellar wind from the star hit most of the in falling particles and bounce them back out a bit before they fall back and are bounced out again. Thus there is a relatively dense shell of dust particles at the outer edge of the star system, dense enough to block all light that comes in through the clear cylinder of space and hide the relatively few stars that would have been visible through it.



                    The inhabited planet could be the only planet in its star system. But maybe there used to be two large planetoids or asteroids orbiting outside the orbit of the inhabited planet, worlds that collided and shattered into dust. Thus there could be an inner dust ring around the star outside the orbit of the planet, a dust ring that might also help to block out the light from the stars.



                    The atmosphere of the planet should be similar enough to Earth's for the natives, and maybe visiting earthlings, to breath without problems. But the atmosphere doesn't have to be identical to Earth's.



                    The atmosphere could be naturally foggier, or dustier, or something, than Earth's, thus making it slightly less transparent. And the intelligent natives might be greatly polluting their atmosphere and making it less transparent.



                    And if the planet has a slightly smaller surface gravity than Earth's, and a slightly higher atmospheric pressure at the surface than Earth's, the atmosphere will extend a bit higher than Earth's. Thus there were be more atmosphere for the light from the stars to pass through and be dimmed than on Earth.



                    It is possible that there are bioluminescent organisms on land or sea or perhaps in the air that emit a faint glow in most parts of that world. And if the atmosphere is foggier or cloudier at night that glow will be reflected down to the surface, further hiding the stars.



                    And of course in the cities of the intelligent natives and their suburbs artificial lighting may increase the light pollution as it does on Earth, hiding the stars even more.



                    The intelligent natives may depend mainly on echolocation and less on their vision, which might not be as good as human vision. And perhaps they have evolved a slightly more close range and less long range visual focus, for fine handiwork, making it slightly harder for them to see the stars.



                    Aquatic aliens, such as intelligent cephalopods or cetaceans, might have good vision in water but not so good in air and might not be able to see the stars.



                    And some combination of several of the above factors may prevent the aliens from seeing the stars, whether humans with possibly superior vision can see the stars from the alien planet or the stars are equally hidden from humans.






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                    • electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
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                    • goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
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                    Maybe they have vast swarms of firefly-like creatures that come out at night? They figure that they already know what stars are, since they are so obviously these creatures, that they never bothered to question it.



                    Perhaps the planet has some killer aurora borealis or something that drowns out the stars.



                    I personally liked the idea from The Three Body Problem which made it so that the intelligent species lived in a trinary system and would go through periods of heat so intense that all water would evaporate, and periods of cold such that the atmosphere would freeze. It would be really hard to get a civilization going when you have a near extinction event every millennia or so.



                    I also like the idea from Ringworld where these people lived on a failed Dyson Ring, and because the ring didn't have any way to mine metals, these stone-age folks couldn't get back up the technology ladder; they were stuck using stone and wood forever.






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                      Some examples from our own solar system:



                      This society could very well come from our own solar system, our neighboring planets. If this society were to come from Venus, then the dense atmosphere would hide the night sky quite well. Titan also has a very thick atmosphere. And on Titan, I expect that even if the atmosphere had a transparency similar to Earth's, the reflected light from the numerous moons, as well as Jupiter would hide any starlight. The society would, however, know of things beyond their sky, being able to see the Jupiter as well as all the other moons...






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                        Dust cloud.



                        The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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                          An answer that Hactar would be proud of
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                          @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                          – Riker
                          2 days ago






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                          @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                          – IndigoFenix
                          2 days ago






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                          @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                          – Tom
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                          Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
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                        Dust cloud.



                        The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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                          An answer that Hactar would be proud of
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                          @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                          – Riker
                          2 days ago






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                          @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                          – IndigoFenix
                          2 days ago






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                          @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                          – Tom
                          2 days ago






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                          Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
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                        Dust cloud.



                        The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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                        Dust cloud.



                        The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.







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                        • 14




                          An answer that Hactar would be proud of
                          – Chronocidal
                          Jan 3 at 0:53






                        • 27




                          @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                          – Riker
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                          – IndigoFenix
                          2 days ago






                        • 13




                          @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                          – Tom
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
                          – T.E.D.
                          2 days ago














                        • 14




                          An answer that Hactar would be proud of
                          – Chronocidal
                          Jan 3 at 0:53






                        • 27




                          @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                          – Riker
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                          – IndigoFenix
                          2 days ago






                        • 13




                          @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                          – Tom
                          2 days ago






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                          Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
                          – T.E.D.
                          2 days ago








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                        14




                        An answer that Hactar would be proud of
                        – Chronocidal
                        Jan 3 at 0:53




                        An answer that Hactar would be proud of
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                        Jan 3 at 0:53




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                        27




                        @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                        – Riker
                        2 days ago




                        @jpmc26 consider the people on the planet. The "glow" wouldn't be anything interesting really, just a dark gray (almost black). With nothing to compare it to, this would just be normal, and they wouldn't know that that 'glow' isn't normal.
                        – Riker
                        2 days ago




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                        @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                        – IndigoFenix
                        2 days ago




                        @jpmc26 The main reason we're pushing for space travel is the prospect of eventually reaching the stars and either finding other planets to live on, or finding other beings like us to interact with. We already know we can't live on the sun, so if it was the only celestial object we knew about we'd be a lot less interested in space travel.
                        – IndigoFenix
                        2 days ago




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                        @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                        – Tom
                        2 days ago




                        @jpmc26 - uniformity. Our sky has bright points within black, in an uneven distribution. That creates curiosity - what are these points? What does it mean? Does their distribution mean something (e.g. star signs)? -- a uniform grey would not spark such curiosity.
                        – Tom
                        2 days ago




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                        Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
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                        Didn't Douglas Adams already come up with this answer?
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                        Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



                        This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



                        As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the sphere?






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                          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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                          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 2 at 22:05






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                          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                          – ltmauve
                          Jan 2 at 23:23






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                          @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
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                          2 days ago






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                          An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
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                        Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



                        This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



                        As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the sphere?






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                          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
                          – JBH
                          Jan 2 at 21:33








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                          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 2 at 22:05






                        • 5




                          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                          – ltmauve
                          Jan 2 at 23:23






                        • 5




                          @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
                          – chrylis
                          2 days ago






                        • 3




                          An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
                          – Virusbomb
                          2 days ago














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                        Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



                        This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



                        As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the sphere?






                        share|improve this answer














                        Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



                        This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



                        As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the sphere?







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                        • 4




                          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
                          – JBH
                          Jan 2 at 21:33








                        • 9




                          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 2 at 22:05






                        • 5




                          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                          – ltmauve
                          Jan 2 at 23:23






                        • 5




                          @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
                          – chrylis
                          2 days ago






                        • 3




                          An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
                          – Virusbomb
                          2 days ago














                        • 4




                          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
                          – JBH
                          Jan 2 at 21:33








                        • 9




                          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 2 at 22:05






                        • 5




                          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                          – ltmauve
                          Jan 2 at 23:23






                        • 5




                          @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
                          – chrylis
                          2 days ago






                        • 3




                          An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
                          – Virusbomb
                          2 days ago








                        4




                        4




                        Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
                        – JBH
                        Jan 2 at 21:33






                        Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
                        – JBH
                        Jan 2 at 21:33






                        9




                        9




                        For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                        – elemtilas
                        Jan 2 at 22:05




                        For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
                        – elemtilas
                        Jan 2 at 22:05




                        5




                        5




                        You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                        – ltmauve
                        Jan 2 at 23:23




                        You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
                        – ltmauve
                        Jan 2 at 23:23




                        5




                        5




                        @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
                        – chrylis
                        2 days ago




                        @n0rd I think it's reasonable to posit that by the time a civilization can manage to build a Dyson sphere it has figured out such pesky details.
                        – chrylis
                        2 days ago




                        3




                        3




                        An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
                        – Virusbomb
                        2 days ago




                        An advanced dyson sphere would also be a perfect reason why the future earthlings would be interested in that specific system and travel all the way there. Only to be confused and let down by the more primitive inhabitants, and no super intelligent life left.
                        – Virusbomb
                        2 days ago











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                        One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



                        There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



                        You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



                        Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



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                          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
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                          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
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                          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
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                          I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
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                          @jpmc26 Candles?
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                        One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



                        There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



                        You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



                        Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



                        enter image description here






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                          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
                          – Andon
                          Jan 2 at 23:14






                        • 1




                          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
                          – Alexander
                          Jan 2 at 23:40






                        • 3




                          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 3 at 0:27






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                          I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
                          – jpmc26
                          2 days ago






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                          @jpmc26 Candles?
                          – gerrit
                          2 days ago














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                        One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



                        There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



                        You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



                        Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



                        enter image description here






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                        One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



                        There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



                        You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



                        Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



                        enter image description here







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                        answered Jan 2 at 22:13









                        elemtilas

                        11.4k22655




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                        • 6




                          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
                          – Andon
                          Jan 2 at 23:14






                        • 1




                          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
                          – Alexander
                          Jan 2 at 23:40






                        • 3




                          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 3 at 0:27






                        • 2




                          I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
                          – jpmc26
                          2 days ago






                        • 2




                          @jpmc26 Candles?
                          – gerrit
                          2 days ago














                        • 6




                          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
                          – Andon
                          Jan 2 at 23:14






                        • 1




                          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
                          – Alexander
                          Jan 2 at 23:40






                        • 3




                          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
                          – elemtilas
                          Jan 3 at 0:27






                        • 2




                          I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
                          – jpmc26
                          2 days ago






                        • 2




                          @jpmc26 Candles?
                          – gerrit
                          2 days ago








                        6




                        6




                        @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
                        – Andon
                        Jan 2 at 23:14




                        @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
                        – Andon
                        Jan 2 at 23:14




                        1




                        1




                        @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
                        – Alexander
                        Jan 2 at 23:40




                        @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
                        – Alexander
                        Jan 2 at 23:40




                        3




                        3




                        @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
                        – elemtilas
                        Jan 3 at 0:27




                        @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
                        – elemtilas
                        Jan 3 at 0:27




                        2




                        2




                        I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
                        – jpmc26
                        2 days ago




                        I like how the house has lights on during the blackout so big that it makes the stars visible.
                        – jpmc26
                        2 days ago




                        2




                        2




                        @jpmc26 Candles?
                        – gerrit
                        2 days ago




                        @jpmc26 Candles?
                        – gerrit
                        2 days ago











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                        It is never night.



                        midnight sun
                        https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                        Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                        Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                        Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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                        • 6




                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          Jan 3 at 1:05






                        • 5




                          There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                          – James
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago












                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday
















                        28














                        It is never night.



                        midnight sun
                        https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                        Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                        Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                        Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






                        share|improve this answer

















                        • 6




                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          Jan 3 at 1:05






                        • 5




                          There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                          – James
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago












                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday














                        28












                        28








                        28






                        It is never night.



                        midnight sun
                        https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                        Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                        Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                        Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






                        share|improve this answer












                        It is never night.



                        midnight sun
                        https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                        Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                        Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                        Maybe they are afraid of the dark.







                        share|improve this answer












                        share|improve this answer



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                        answered Jan 2 at 23:33









                        Willk

                        102k25196428




                        102k25196428








                        • 6




                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          Jan 3 at 1:05






                        • 5




                          There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                          – James
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago












                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday














                        • 6




                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          Jan 3 at 1:05






                        • 5




                          There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago






                        • 4




                          I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                          – James
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                          – Willk
                          2 days ago












                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday








                        6




                        6




                        Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                        – B.fox
                        Jan 3 at 1:05




                        Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                        – B.fox
                        Jan 3 at 1:05




                        5




                        5




                        There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                        – Willk
                        2 days ago




                        There are a bunch of these nightless planet schemes here. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135219/…
                        – Willk
                        2 days ago




                        4




                        4




                        I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                        – James
                        2 days ago




                        I'd point out that the OP specifically requests a day/night cycle.
                        – James
                        2 days ago




                        1




                        1




                        @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                        – Willk
                        2 days ago






                        @James - the sun in arctic summer does rise and fall as normal. Nighttime is just not as dark, because there is a midnight sun.
                        – Willk
                        2 days ago














                        Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                        – Jens
                        yesterday




                        Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                        – Jens
                        yesterday











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                        The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                        In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                        • 6




                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                          – AMADANON Inc.
                          Jan 3 at 0:57






                        • 8




                          Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                          – hyde
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                          – Sdarb
                          2 days ago
















                        20














                        The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                        In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                        • 6




                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                          – AMADANON Inc.
                          Jan 3 at 0:57






                        • 8




                          Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                          – hyde
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                          – Sdarb
                          2 days ago














                        20












                        20








                        20






                        The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                        In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                        The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                        In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4







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                        answered Jan 3 at 0:49









                        Nick

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                        • 6




                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                          – AMADANON Inc.
                          Jan 3 at 0:57






                        • 8




                          Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                          – hyde
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                          – Sdarb
                          2 days ago














                        • 6




                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                          – AMADANON Inc.
                          Jan 3 at 0:57






                        • 8




                          Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                          – hyde
                          2 days ago






                        • 1




                          hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                          – Sdarb
                          2 days ago








                        6




                        6




                        :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                        – AMADANON Inc.
                        Jan 3 at 0:57




                        :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                        – AMADANON Inc.
                        Jan 3 at 0:57




                        8




                        8




                        Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                        – hyde
                        2 days ago




                        Gravity holds galaxies together. Expansion of the universe will not break up galaxies, unless you go for the big rip scenario, but that would probably make some kind of ultimate doomsday story...
                        – hyde
                        2 days ago




                        1




                        1




                        hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                        – Sdarb
                        2 days ago




                        hard for earth to be nearby in that case, though
                        – Sdarb
                        2 days ago











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                        there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



                        there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



                        Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



                        basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



                        'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
                        Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
                        enter image description here



                        vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
                        enter image description here






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                        • 7




                          I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                          – ratchet freak
                          2 days ago










                        • @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                          – Jack Aidley
                          2 days ago










                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday






                        • 1




                          @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                          – Thriggle
                          yesterday










                        • Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                          – Troyen
                          yesterday
















                        14














                        there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



                        there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



                        Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



                        basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



                        'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
                        Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
                        enter image description here



                        vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
                        enter image description here






                        share|improve this answer

















                        • 7




                          I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                          – ratchet freak
                          2 days ago










                        • @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                          – Jack Aidley
                          2 days ago










                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday






                        • 1




                          @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                          – Thriggle
                          yesterday










                        • Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                          – Troyen
                          yesterday














                        14












                        14








                        14






                        there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



                        there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



                        Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



                        basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



                        'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
                        Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
                        enter image description here



                        vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
                        enter image description here






                        share|improve this answer












                        there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



                        there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



                        Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



                        basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



                        'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
                        Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
                        enter image description here



                        vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
                        enter image description here







                        share|improve this answer












                        share|improve this answer



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                        answered Jan 2 at 22:16









                        Rowyn Alloway

                        5311214




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                        • 7




                          I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                          – ratchet freak
                          2 days ago










                        • @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                          – Jack Aidley
                          2 days ago










                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday






                        • 1




                          @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                          – Thriggle
                          yesterday










                        • Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                          – Troyen
                          yesterday














                        • 7




                          I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                          – ratchet freak
                          2 days ago










                        • @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                          – Jack Aidley
                          2 days ago










                        • Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                          – Jens
                          yesterday






                        • 1




                          @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                          – Thriggle
                          yesterday










                        • Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                          – Troyen
                          yesterday








                        7




                        7




                        I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                        – ratchet freak
                        2 days ago




                        I don't think those photos are proper comparisons though. Each would be made to highlight the subject of the photo so would have different settings wrt aperture, exposure time, etc.
                        – ratchet freak
                        2 days ago












                        @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                        – Jack Aidley
                        2 days ago




                        @ratchetfreak: You're correct that this isn't a completely fair comparison, however, if you were to go to those two places you would see a clear difference between how many stars you see in the sky. It really is striking how many stars you can see when you get somewhere with a truly dark sky.
                        – Jack Aidley
                        2 days ago












                        Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                        – Jens
                        yesterday




                        Probaly wont work, dig a deep hole and you can see stars in the day light
                        – Jens
                        yesterday




                        1




                        1




                        @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                        – Thriggle
                        yesterday




                        @Jens Have you actually tried that? livescience.com/34335-see-stars-daytime.html
                        – Thriggle
                        yesterday












                        Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                        – Troyen
                        yesterday




                        Having lived in Vegas, that top photo isn't an accurate representation of the night sky, even near the strip with all the lights. You still see the major stars, just far fewer than you would away from civilization, so it wouldn't block all stars as asked.
                        – Troyen
                        yesterday











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                        Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                        It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                        https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                        This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                        Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                        It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                        You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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                          Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                          It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                          https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                          This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                          Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                          It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                          You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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                            Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                            It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                            https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                            This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                            Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                            It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                            You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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                            Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                            It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                            https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                            This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                            Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                            It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                            You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.







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                                The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                                  The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                                    The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                                    The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.







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                                        It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                                        No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
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                                          Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
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                                        • @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
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                                          @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
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                                        It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                                        No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
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                                          Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
                                          – Mazura
                                          2 days ago










                                        • @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
                                          – Logan R. Kearsley
                                          2 days ago






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                                          @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
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                                        It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                                        No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                                        It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                                        No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.







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                                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                                          – Andon
                                          Jan 3 at 0:03






                                        • 1




                                          Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
                                          – Mazura
                                          2 days ago










                                        • @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
                                          – Logan R. Kearsley
                                          2 days ago






                                        • 2




                                          @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
                                          – Logan R. Kearsley
                                          2 days ago














                                        • 2




                                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                                          – Andon
                                          Jan 3 at 0:03






                                        • 1




                                          Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
                                          – Mazura
                                          2 days ago










                                        • @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
                                          – Logan R. Kearsley
                                          2 days ago






                                        • 2




                                          @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
                                          – Logan R. Kearsley
                                          2 days ago








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                                        The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                                        – Andon
                                        Jan 3 at 0:03




                                        The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                                        – Andon
                                        Jan 3 at 0:03




                                        1




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                                        Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
                                        – Mazura
                                        2 days ago




                                        Aren't a bunch of our 'stars' actually other galaxies? If the ambient light is akin to Earth's, there's no where to go that you wouldn't see some 'stars'.
                                        – Mazura
                                        2 days ago












                                        @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
                                        – Logan R. Kearsley
                                        2 days ago




                                        @Andon Oops, I overlooked that part....
                                        – Logan R. Kearsley
                                        2 days ago




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                                        2




                                        @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
                                        – Logan R. Kearsley
                                        2 days ago




                                        @Mazura No. There are only 3 naked-eye visible galaxies, two of which are only visible from the southern hemisphere, and all of which are among the very closest to us. Out in a cosmic void, there would be none.
                                        – Logan R. Kearsley
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                                        The people have eyes that only see sharp nearby. Everything is blurry to them on (very) long distance. It would not be too much of a disadvantage in normal life, but it would prevent them from seeing stars. Only after they develop reliable lenses, they would discover that stars exist.






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                                        • A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                          – cmaster
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                                        • I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
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                                        • To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
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                                          @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
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                                        The people have eyes that only see sharp nearby. Everything is blurry to them on (very) long distance. It would not be too much of a disadvantage in normal life, but it would prevent them from seeing stars. Only after they develop reliable lenses, they would discover that stars exist.






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                                        • A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                          – cmaster
                                          2 days ago










                                        • I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
                                          – Stig Hemmer
                                          2 days ago










                                        • To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
                                          – fishinear
                                          yesterday






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                                          @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
                                          – Mike Scott
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                                        The people have eyes that only see sharp nearby. Everything is blurry to them on (very) long distance. It would not be too much of a disadvantage in normal life, but it would prevent them from seeing stars. Only after they develop reliable lenses, they would discover that stars exist.






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                                        The people have eyes that only see sharp nearby. Everything is blurry to them on (very) long distance. It would not be too much of a disadvantage in normal life, but it would prevent them from seeing stars. Only after they develop reliable lenses, they would discover that stars exist.







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                                        • A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                          – cmaster
                                          2 days ago










                                        • I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
                                          – Stig Hemmer
                                          2 days ago










                                        • To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
                                          – fishinear
                                          yesterday






                                        • 1




                                          @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
                                          – Mike Scott
                                          yesterday


















                                        • A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                          – cmaster
                                          2 days ago










                                        • I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
                                          – Stig Hemmer
                                          2 days ago










                                        • To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
                                          – fishinear
                                          yesterday






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                                          @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
                                          – Mike Scott
                                          yesterday
















                                        A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                        – cmaster
                                        2 days ago




                                        A short-sighted specie is the perfect food for any large enough predator. How would the species survive and develop?
                                        – cmaster
                                        2 days ago












                                        I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
                                        – Stig Hemmer
                                        2 days ago




                                        I was going to answer the same, except I was going to say "no night vision". Stars come out at night because our eyes adapt. No dark adaption, no stars.
                                        – Stig Hemmer
                                        2 days ago












                                        To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
                                        – fishinear
                                        yesterday




                                        To avoid predators you only need to see sharp until about 500m. Humans developed sharp vision because we were hunting. If these people were vegetarians, then sharp vision at a distance would not have a particular advantage.
                                        – fishinear
                                        yesterday




                                        1




                                        1




                                        @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
                                        – Mike Scott
                                        yesterday




                                        @fishinear if you can focus at 500m, you can focus at infinity. The difference is negligible.
                                        – Mike Scott
                                        yesterday











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                                        The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                        • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                        • One sun, and many moons

                                        • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                        • Underground or underwater societies.

                                        • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                        • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                        • taboo/superstition/religion

                                        • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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                                          The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                          • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                          • One sun, and many moons

                                          • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                          • Underground or underwater societies.

                                          • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                          • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                          • taboo/superstition/religion

                                          • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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                                            The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                            • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                            • One sun, and many moons

                                            • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                            • Underground or underwater societies.

                                            • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                            • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                            • taboo/superstition/religion

                                            • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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                                            The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                            • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                            • One sun, and many moons

                                            • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                            • Underground or underwater societies.

                                            • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                            • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                            • taboo/superstition/religion

                                            • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.







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                                                I don't know if that counts or not as 'affecting/messing with atmosphere', but I've decided to reply anyway.



                                                There's a layer of gas in the atmosphere that diffuses the light.



                                                Light is still capable of passing, but it is randomly diffused before getting into the surface of the planet. The day would still be very well illuminated, but they wouldn't see the sun itself: they wouldn't see a bright ball up in the sky as the source of such illumination. As for the night, no stars, and darkness.



                                                If there's a moon, the same thing from the day will happen: one won't be able to see moon itself, and a far lower intensity light reaches the surface, faintly illuminating the surface.






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                                                  I don't know if that counts or not as 'affecting/messing with atmosphere', but I've decided to reply anyway.



                                                  There's a layer of gas in the atmosphere that diffuses the light.



                                                  Light is still capable of passing, but it is randomly diffused before getting into the surface of the planet. The day would still be very well illuminated, but they wouldn't see the sun itself: they wouldn't see a bright ball up in the sky as the source of such illumination. As for the night, no stars, and darkness.



                                                  If there's a moon, the same thing from the day will happen: one won't be able to see moon itself, and a far lower intensity light reaches the surface, faintly illuminating the surface.






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                                                    I don't know if that counts or not as 'affecting/messing with atmosphere', but I've decided to reply anyway.



                                                    There's a layer of gas in the atmosphere that diffuses the light.



                                                    Light is still capable of passing, but it is randomly diffused before getting into the surface of the planet. The day would still be very well illuminated, but they wouldn't see the sun itself: they wouldn't see a bright ball up in the sky as the source of such illumination. As for the night, no stars, and darkness.



                                                    If there's a moon, the same thing from the day will happen: one won't be able to see moon itself, and a far lower intensity light reaches the surface, faintly illuminating the surface.






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                                                    I don't know if that counts or not as 'affecting/messing with atmosphere', but I've decided to reply anyway.



                                                    There's a layer of gas in the atmosphere that diffuses the light.



                                                    Light is still capable of passing, but it is randomly diffused before getting into the surface of the planet. The day would still be very well illuminated, but they wouldn't see the sun itself: they wouldn't see a bright ball up in the sky as the source of such illumination. As for the night, no stars, and darkness.



                                                    If there's a moon, the same thing from the day will happen: one won't be able to see moon itself, and a far lower intensity light reaches the surface, faintly illuminating the surface.







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                                                        Most of the answers so far seem to be ignoring the requirements that there be sunset or that the atmosphere behave differently.



                                                        A large dust cloud surrounding the solar system seems like the most reasonable way to achieve what you want since it doesn't directly affect anything within it. Its origin and how long it will persist are for you to work out.



                                                        But whatever solution you decide on, it sounds like the driving force in the story will be the reaction of those people to this new revelation. If so, make sure you come up with something new and don't appear to be copying how society reacted in Asimov's "Nightfall" (which used multiple suns to make total darkness almost impossible).






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                                                          Most of the answers so far seem to be ignoring the requirements that there be sunset or that the atmosphere behave differently.



                                                          A large dust cloud surrounding the solar system seems like the most reasonable way to achieve what you want since it doesn't directly affect anything within it. Its origin and how long it will persist are for you to work out.



                                                          But whatever solution you decide on, it sounds like the driving force in the story will be the reaction of those people to this new revelation. If so, make sure you come up with something new and don't appear to be copying how society reacted in Asimov's "Nightfall" (which used multiple suns to make total darkness almost impossible).






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                                                            Most of the answers so far seem to be ignoring the requirements that there be sunset or that the atmosphere behave differently.



                                                            A large dust cloud surrounding the solar system seems like the most reasonable way to achieve what you want since it doesn't directly affect anything within it. Its origin and how long it will persist are for you to work out.



                                                            But whatever solution you decide on, it sounds like the driving force in the story will be the reaction of those people to this new revelation. If so, make sure you come up with something new and don't appear to be copying how society reacted in Asimov's "Nightfall" (which used multiple suns to make total darkness almost impossible).






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                                                            Most of the answers so far seem to be ignoring the requirements that there be sunset or that the atmosphere behave differently.



                                                            A large dust cloud surrounding the solar system seems like the most reasonable way to achieve what you want since it doesn't directly affect anything within it. Its origin and how long it will persist are for you to work out.



                                                            But whatever solution you decide on, it sounds like the driving force in the story will be the reaction of those people to this new revelation. If so, make sure you come up with something new and don't appear to be copying how society reacted in Asimov's "Nightfall" (which used multiple suns to make total darkness almost impossible).







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                                                                First idea: Their visual organs use a different method of "seeing".



                                                                You could make it so that your planet's inhabitants can't see, or some variant thereof.



                                                                I don't mean to say that the people are blind, but rather they have other organs that can "see" that would serve a similar purpose, but might seem magical to us. For example, if they were to inspect a sheet of paper, they might be able to easily detect tiny folds and creases in the paper, while the image on the sheet would be invisible to them.



                                                                To them, a pure-white rabbit on pure-white snow stands out clearly, whereas the pictures and text of a highway billboard sign are hidden to them, precisely because there is no "three-dimensional-ness" to distinguish the images from the board itself.



                                                                To them, the sky might look perfectly flat (or maybe even perfectly dome-shaped). As for their sun, they can either perceive it using another sense, or maybe its special case of being abnormally huge (compared to anything else they are familiar with) is enough to make them perceive it.



                                                                (If you can see those 3-D stereo images, you might understand what I'm getting at. When you succeed in seeing those images, you'll notice that you're perceiving three-dimensional shapes instead of colors. A starry sky wouldn't work too well in those 3-D stereo images, but a sun in the middle of the sky might.)



                                                                This could be similar to sonar; for example, a dolphin could detect a sheet of paper in the water no matter how dark or murky its surroundings -- however, it wouldn't be able to use sonar to perceive the picture drawn on the sheet of paper.



                                                                Second idea: Their visual organs perceive different wavelengths of light than ours do.



                                                                The inhabitants could have eyes (or similar organs), but see a different spectrum of light than us. And it just so happens that 99.9% of stars in the universe display light in the parts of the spectrum they can't see.



                                                                Their sun, however, is one of those 0.1% of stars that they can see.



                                                                You could even say that they evolved/adapted the ability to see their sun's light precisely because it comes from their own sun. (So why have a need to see other light?)






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                                                                  First idea: Their visual organs use a different method of "seeing".



                                                                  You could make it so that your planet's inhabitants can't see, or some variant thereof.



                                                                  I don't mean to say that the people are blind, but rather they have other organs that can "see" that would serve a similar purpose, but might seem magical to us. For example, if they were to inspect a sheet of paper, they might be able to easily detect tiny folds and creases in the paper, while the image on the sheet would be invisible to them.



                                                                  To them, a pure-white rabbit on pure-white snow stands out clearly, whereas the pictures and text of a highway billboard sign are hidden to them, precisely because there is no "three-dimensional-ness" to distinguish the images from the board itself.



                                                                  To them, the sky might look perfectly flat (or maybe even perfectly dome-shaped). As for their sun, they can either perceive it using another sense, or maybe its special case of being abnormally huge (compared to anything else they are familiar with) is enough to make them perceive it.



                                                                  (If you can see those 3-D stereo images, you might understand what I'm getting at. When you succeed in seeing those images, you'll notice that you're perceiving three-dimensional shapes instead of colors. A starry sky wouldn't work too well in those 3-D stereo images, but a sun in the middle of the sky might.)



                                                                  This could be similar to sonar; for example, a dolphin could detect a sheet of paper in the water no matter how dark or murky its surroundings -- however, it wouldn't be able to use sonar to perceive the picture drawn on the sheet of paper.



                                                                  Second idea: Their visual organs perceive different wavelengths of light than ours do.



                                                                  The inhabitants could have eyes (or similar organs), but see a different spectrum of light than us. And it just so happens that 99.9% of stars in the universe display light in the parts of the spectrum they can't see.



                                                                  Their sun, however, is one of those 0.1% of stars that they can see.



                                                                  You could even say that they evolved/adapted the ability to see their sun's light precisely because it comes from their own sun. (So why have a need to see other light?)






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                                                                    First idea: Their visual organs use a different method of "seeing".



                                                                    You could make it so that your planet's inhabitants can't see, or some variant thereof.



                                                                    I don't mean to say that the people are blind, but rather they have other organs that can "see" that would serve a similar purpose, but might seem magical to us. For example, if they were to inspect a sheet of paper, they might be able to easily detect tiny folds and creases in the paper, while the image on the sheet would be invisible to them.



                                                                    To them, a pure-white rabbit on pure-white snow stands out clearly, whereas the pictures and text of a highway billboard sign are hidden to them, precisely because there is no "three-dimensional-ness" to distinguish the images from the board itself.



                                                                    To them, the sky might look perfectly flat (or maybe even perfectly dome-shaped). As for their sun, they can either perceive it using another sense, or maybe its special case of being abnormally huge (compared to anything else they are familiar with) is enough to make them perceive it.



                                                                    (If you can see those 3-D stereo images, you might understand what I'm getting at. When you succeed in seeing those images, you'll notice that you're perceiving three-dimensional shapes instead of colors. A starry sky wouldn't work too well in those 3-D stereo images, but a sun in the middle of the sky might.)



                                                                    This could be similar to sonar; for example, a dolphin could detect a sheet of paper in the water no matter how dark or murky its surroundings -- however, it wouldn't be able to use sonar to perceive the picture drawn on the sheet of paper.



                                                                    Second idea: Their visual organs perceive different wavelengths of light than ours do.



                                                                    The inhabitants could have eyes (or similar organs), but see a different spectrum of light than us. And it just so happens that 99.9% of stars in the universe display light in the parts of the spectrum they can't see.



                                                                    Their sun, however, is one of those 0.1% of stars that they can see.



                                                                    You could even say that they evolved/adapted the ability to see their sun's light precisely because it comes from their own sun. (So why have a need to see other light?)






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                                                                    First idea: Their visual organs use a different method of "seeing".



                                                                    You could make it so that your planet's inhabitants can't see, or some variant thereof.



                                                                    I don't mean to say that the people are blind, but rather they have other organs that can "see" that would serve a similar purpose, but might seem magical to us. For example, if they were to inspect a sheet of paper, they might be able to easily detect tiny folds and creases in the paper, while the image on the sheet would be invisible to them.



                                                                    To them, a pure-white rabbit on pure-white snow stands out clearly, whereas the pictures and text of a highway billboard sign are hidden to them, precisely because there is no "three-dimensional-ness" to distinguish the images from the board itself.



                                                                    To them, the sky might look perfectly flat (or maybe even perfectly dome-shaped). As for their sun, they can either perceive it using another sense, or maybe its special case of being abnormally huge (compared to anything else they are familiar with) is enough to make them perceive it.



                                                                    (If you can see those 3-D stereo images, you might understand what I'm getting at. When you succeed in seeing those images, you'll notice that you're perceiving three-dimensional shapes instead of colors. A starry sky wouldn't work too well in those 3-D stereo images, but a sun in the middle of the sky might.)



                                                                    This could be similar to sonar; for example, a dolphin could detect a sheet of paper in the water no matter how dark or murky its surroundings -- however, it wouldn't be able to use sonar to perceive the picture drawn on the sheet of paper.



                                                                    Second idea: Their visual organs perceive different wavelengths of light than ours do.



                                                                    The inhabitants could have eyes (or similar organs), but see a different spectrum of light than us. And it just so happens that 99.9% of stars in the universe display light in the parts of the spectrum they can't see.



                                                                    Their sun, however, is one of those 0.1% of stars that they can see.



                                                                    You could even say that they evolved/adapted the ability to see their sun's light precisely because it comes from their own sun. (So why have a need to see other light?)







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                                                                        You could toy around with the idea that your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian Point of a very large, non-reflective planet. As the society's planet orbits on its axis and brings the society to their own planet's dark side, they would see only the large dark planet in their sky, which would appear to them only as pitch black.



                                                                        However, there is a significant window of time (particularly around sunrise and sunset) where they could still see the dark of night (including the stars) which is not covered by the large dark planet. If you're daring, you could make the dark planet a very non-dense, stretched out object that acts as a sort of visual shield around the dark side of the society's planet.



                                                                        Sure, having such a large object in a non-spherical shape seems like a stretch, but maybe there are some special cases in this universe where that could happen. (After all, we already have Saturn, whose rings are quite visibly wider than Jupiter itself, but definitely not spherical.) Maybe the large, un-dense planet could have a large set of (seemingly solid) pitch-black rings. Or maybe it could have some other sort of shape anomaly more common than planetary rings, but that we're not familiar with simply because no planet in our own solar system happens to have it.



                                                                        To put it another way, if Saturn didn't exist, we wouldn't have all those pretty artistic night-sky renderings with ringed planets (despite the fact that ringed planets do exist outside our solar system). So what other pretty astronomical sights are we not including in our artistic night-sky renderings, simply because they don't exist in our solar system, making us not aware of them?



                                                                        In other words, just because something is planet-sized, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be shaped like a sphere.



                                                                        Some ancient civilizations (here on Earth) thought that our sky was literally a dome. So maybe your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian point of a non-light-reflecting partial dome.






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                                                                          You could toy around with the idea that your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian Point of a very large, non-reflective planet. As the society's planet orbits on its axis and brings the society to their own planet's dark side, they would see only the large dark planet in their sky, which would appear to them only as pitch black.



                                                                          However, there is a significant window of time (particularly around sunrise and sunset) where they could still see the dark of night (including the stars) which is not covered by the large dark planet. If you're daring, you could make the dark planet a very non-dense, stretched out object that acts as a sort of visual shield around the dark side of the society's planet.



                                                                          Sure, having such a large object in a non-spherical shape seems like a stretch, but maybe there are some special cases in this universe where that could happen. (After all, we already have Saturn, whose rings are quite visibly wider than Jupiter itself, but definitely not spherical.) Maybe the large, un-dense planet could have a large set of (seemingly solid) pitch-black rings. Or maybe it could have some other sort of shape anomaly more common than planetary rings, but that we're not familiar with simply because no planet in our own solar system happens to have it.



                                                                          To put it another way, if Saturn didn't exist, we wouldn't have all those pretty artistic night-sky renderings with ringed planets (despite the fact that ringed planets do exist outside our solar system). So what other pretty astronomical sights are we not including in our artistic night-sky renderings, simply because they don't exist in our solar system, making us not aware of them?



                                                                          In other words, just because something is planet-sized, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be shaped like a sphere.



                                                                          Some ancient civilizations (here on Earth) thought that our sky was literally a dome. So maybe your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian point of a non-light-reflecting partial dome.






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                                                                            You could toy around with the idea that your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian Point of a very large, non-reflective planet. As the society's planet orbits on its axis and brings the society to their own planet's dark side, they would see only the large dark planet in their sky, which would appear to them only as pitch black.



                                                                            However, there is a significant window of time (particularly around sunrise and sunset) where they could still see the dark of night (including the stars) which is not covered by the large dark planet. If you're daring, you could make the dark planet a very non-dense, stretched out object that acts as a sort of visual shield around the dark side of the society's planet.



                                                                            Sure, having such a large object in a non-spherical shape seems like a stretch, but maybe there are some special cases in this universe where that could happen. (After all, we already have Saturn, whose rings are quite visibly wider than Jupiter itself, but definitely not spherical.) Maybe the large, un-dense planet could have a large set of (seemingly solid) pitch-black rings. Or maybe it could have some other sort of shape anomaly more common than planetary rings, but that we're not familiar with simply because no planet in our own solar system happens to have it.



                                                                            To put it another way, if Saturn didn't exist, we wouldn't have all those pretty artistic night-sky renderings with ringed planets (despite the fact that ringed planets do exist outside our solar system). So what other pretty astronomical sights are we not including in our artistic night-sky renderings, simply because they don't exist in our solar system, making us not aware of them?



                                                                            In other words, just because something is planet-sized, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be shaped like a sphere.



                                                                            Some ancient civilizations (here on Earth) thought that our sky was literally a dome. So maybe your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian point of a non-light-reflecting partial dome.






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                                                                            You could toy around with the idea that your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian Point of a very large, non-reflective planet. As the society's planet orbits on its axis and brings the society to their own planet's dark side, they would see only the large dark planet in their sky, which would appear to them only as pitch black.



                                                                            However, there is a significant window of time (particularly around sunrise and sunset) where they could still see the dark of night (including the stars) which is not covered by the large dark planet. If you're daring, you could make the dark planet a very non-dense, stretched out object that acts as a sort of visual shield around the dark side of the society's planet.



                                                                            Sure, having such a large object in a non-spherical shape seems like a stretch, but maybe there are some special cases in this universe where that could happen. (After all, we already have Saturn, whose rings are quite visibly wider than Jupiter itself, but definitely not spherical.) Maybe the large, un-dense planet could have a large set of (seemingly solid) pitch-black rings. Or maybe it could have some other sort of shape anomaly more common than planetary rings, but that we're not familiar with simply because no planet in our own solar system happens to have it.



                                                                            To put it another way, if Saturn didn't exist, we wouldn't have all those pretty artistic night-sky renderings with ringed planets (despite the fact that ringed planets do exist outside our solar system). So what other pretty astronomical sights are we not including in our artistic night-sky renderings, simply because they don't exist in our solar system, making us not aware of them?



                                                                            In other words, just because something is planet-sized, doesn't necessarily mean it has to be shaped like a sphere.



                                                                            Some ancient civilizations (here on Earth) thought that our sky was literally a dome. So maybe your society's planet could be in the L1 Lagrangian point of a non-light-reflecting partial dome.







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                                                                                There could be intelligent life living under the ice on Enceladus right now. The thick ice would prevent them seeing stars.



                                                                                Similarly, the habitable zone of your planet might be entirely underground.






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                                                                                  There could be intelligent life living under the ice on Enceladus right now. The thick ice would prevent them seeing stars.



                                                                                  Similarly, the habitable zone of your planet might be entirely underground.






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                                                                                    There could be intelligent life living under the ice on Enceladus right now. The thick ice would prevent them seeing stars.



                                                                                    Similarly, the habitable zone of your planet might be entirely underground.






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                                                                                    There could be intelligent life living under the ice on Enceladus right now. The thick ice would prevent them seeing stars.



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                                                                                        HG Wells had a valley populated by blind people. They had no concept of daylight, so slept in the warmth(day) and worked in the cold(night)



                                                                                        Because the 'hero' couldn't see at night, he was less capable than any of them.






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                                                                                          This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                          @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        • This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                        HG Wells had a valley populated by blind people. They had no concept of daylight, so slept in the warmth(day) and worked in the cold(night)



                                                                                        Because the 'hero' couldn't see at night, he was less capable than any of them.






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                                                                                          This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                          @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        • This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                        HG Wells had a valley populated by blind people. They had no concept of daylight, so slept in the warmth(day) and worked in the cold(night)



                                                                                        Because the 'hero' couldn't see at night, he was less capable than any of them.






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                                                                                        HG Wells had a valley populated by blind people. They had no concept of daylight, so slept in the warmth(day) and worked in the cold(night)



                                                                                        Because the 'hero' couldn't see at night, he was less capable than any of them.







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                                                                                          This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                          @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        • This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                          This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                          @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        • This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                        This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                        This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the question.
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                                                                                        Did you actually read the question?
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                                                                                        @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        @F1Krazy, actually, though poorly presented, this is a clever way to solve the problem. The OP gets exactly what he was looking for: an advanced society that has no desire to explore outer space. One way to naturally not see the stars is to naturally not see. Well done, Andrea. Undoubtadly not what the OP was expecting and it certainly has its disadvantages, but a clever solution. Well done.
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                                                                                        This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                        This is an interesting idea, probably not what the OP was thinking. But this answer needs to be edited to tie back to the original question better. Try explaining in your answer, what JBH analyzed.
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                                                                                        If you are on an isolated star in the middle of the Boötes Void (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boötes_void) you would not see a single star or galaxy with the naked eye.



                                                                                        BTW - have you ever read Iain M. Banks' Against A Dark Background?






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                                                                                        If you are on an isolated star in the middle of the Boötes Void (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boötes_void) you would not see a single star or galaxy with the naked eye.



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                                                                                        If you are on an isolated star in the middle of the Boötes Void (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boötes_void) you would not see a single star or galaxy with the naked eye.



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                                                                                        • OP is asking about a planet in our part of the galaxy. Boötes Void is outside our galaxy.
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                                                                                        OP is asking about a planet in our part of the galaxy. Boötes Void is outside our galaxy.
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                                                                                        OP is asking about a planet in our part of the galaxy. Boötes Void is outside our galaxy.
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                                                                                        Since many good physical explanations were given, let me provide some lateral thinking sort of answer.



                                                                                        The reason there are no stars is that they live in a giant simulated universe and there's not enough processing power and memory to simulate a full universe, just that solar system with just that one planet. So the sky is dark at night. The humans which are visiting are in fact those running the simulator.






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                                                                                          Since many good physical explanations were given, let me provide some lateral thinking sort of answer.



                                                                                          The reason there are no stars is that they live in a giant simulated universe and there's not enough processing power and memory to simulate a full universe, just that solar system with just that one planet. So the sky is dark at night. The humans which are visiting are in fact those running the simulator.






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                                                                                            Since many good physical explanations were given, let me provide some lateral thinking sort of answer.



                                                                                            The reason there are no stars is that they live in a giant simulated universe and there's not enough processing power and memory to simulate a full universe, just that solar system with just that one planet. So the sky is dark at night. The humans which are visiting are in fact those running the simulator.






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                                                                                            Since many good physical explanations were given, let me provide some lateral thinking sort of answer.



                                                                                            The reason there are no stars is that they live in a giant simulated universe and there's not enough processing power and memory to simulate a full universe, just that solar system with just that one planet. So the sky is dark at night. The humans which are visiting are in fact those running the simulator.







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                                                                                                I would suggest that their solar system is passing through a relatively very dense dust cloud in interstellar space, as others have suggested.



                                                                                                Their solar system would have been passing through it for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, long enough that the intelligent beings living there have no possible way to remember that their pre-intelligent ancestors ever saw stars in the sky.



                                                                                                The gravity of their star system has been pulling in the interstellar dust so that there is a clear cylinder of space pointing out of the dust cloud back the way they came. So that direction should point out toward intergalactic space with only a few stars in their galaxy and no globular star clusters, other galaxies, or intergalactic stars in the light of sight.



                                                                                                The in falling dust doesn't fall all the way to the star, however. At at certain distance range light from the star and particles in the stellar wind from the star hit most of the in falling particles and bounce them back out a bit before they fall back and are bounced out again. Thus there is a relatively dense shell of dust particles at the outer edge of the star system, dense enough to block all light that comes in through the clear cylinder of space and hide the relatively few stars that would have been visible through it.



                                                                                                The inhabited planet could be the only planet in its star system. But maybe there used to be two large planetoids or asteroids orbiting outside the orbit of the inhabited planet, worlds that collided and shattered into dust. Thus there could be an inner dust ring around the star outside the orbit of the planet, a dust ring that might also help to block out the light from the stars.



                                                                                                The atmosphere of the planet should be similar enough to Earth's for the natives, and maybe visiting earthlings, to breath without problems. But the atmosphere doesn't have to be identical to Earth's.



                                                                                                The atmosphere could be naturally foggier, or dustier, or something, than Earth's, thus making it slightly less transparent. And the intelligent natives might be greatly polluting their atmosphere and making it less transparent.



                                                                                                And if the planet has a slightly smaller surface gravity than Earth's, and a slightly higher atmospheric pressure at the surface than Earth's, the atmosphere will extend a bit higher than Earth's. Thus there were be more atmosphere for the light from the stars to pass through and be dimmed than on Earth.



                                                                                                It is possible that there are bioluminescent organisms on land or sea or perhaps in the air that emit a faint glow in most parts of that world. And if the atmosphere is foggier or cloudier at night that glow will be reflected down to the surface, further hiding the stars.



                                                                                                And of course in the cities of the intelligent natives and their suburbs artificial lighting may increase the light pollution as it does on Earth, hiding the stars even more.



                                                                                                The intelligent natives may depend mainly on echolocation and less on their vision, which might not be as good as human vision. And perhaps they have evolved a slightly more close range and less long range visual focus, for fine handiwork, making it slightly harder for them to see the stars.



                                                                                                Aquatic aliens, such as intelligent cephalopods or cetaceans, might have good vision in water but not so good in air and might not be able to see the stars.



                                                                                                And some combination of several of the above factors may prevent the aliens from seeing the stars, whether humans with possibly superior vision can see the stars from the alien planet or the stars are equally hidden from humans.






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                                                                                                • electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
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                                                                                                • goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
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                                                                                                I would suggest that their solar system is passing through a relatively very dense dust cloud in interstellar space, as others have suggested.



                                                                                                Their solar system would have been passing through it for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, long enough that the intelligent beings living there have no possible way to remember that their pre-intelligent ancestors ever saw stars in the sky.



                                                                                                The gravity of their star system has been pulling in the interstellar dust so that there is a clear cylinder of space pointing out of the dust cloud back the way they came. So that direction should point out toward intergalactic space with only a few stars in their galaxy and no globular star clusters, other galaxies, or intergalactic stars in the light of sight.



                                                                                                The in falling dust doesn't fall all the way to the star, however. At at certain distance range light from the star and particles in the stellar wind from the star hit most of the in falling particles and bounce them back out a bit before they fall back and are bounced out again. Thus there is a relatively dense shell of dust particles at the outer edge of the star system, dense enough to block all light that comes in through the clear cylinder of space and hide the relatively few stars that would have been visible through it.



                                                                                                The inhabited planet could be the only planet in its star system. But maybe there used to be two large planetoids or asteroids orbiting outside the orbit of the inhabited planet, worlds that collided and shattered into dust. Thus there could be an inner dust ring around the star outside the orbit of the planet, a dust ring that might also help to block out the light from the stars.



                                                                                                The atmosphere of the planet should be similar enough to Earth's for the natives, and maybe visiting earthlings, to breath without problems. But the atmosphere doesn't have to be identical to Earth's.



                                                                                                The atmosphere could be naturally foggier, or dustier, or something, than Earth's, thus making it slightly less transparent. And the intelligent natives might be greatly polluting their atmosphere and making it less transparent.



                                                                                                And if the planet has a slightly smaller surface gravity than Earth's, and a slightly higher atmospheric pressure at the surface than Earth's, the atmosphere will extend a bit higher than Earth's. Thus there were be more atmosphere for the light from the stars to pass through and be dimmed than on Earth.



                                                                                                It is possible that there are bioluminescent organisms on land or sea or perhaps in the air that emit a faint glow in most parts of that world. And if the atmosphere is foggier or cloudier at night that glow will be reflected down to the surface, further hiding the stars.



                                                                                                And of course in the cities of the intelligent natives and their suburbs artificial lighting may increase the light pollution as it does on Earth, hiding the stars even more.



                                                                                                The intelligent natives may depend mainly on echolocation and less on their vision, which might not be as good as human vision. And perhaps they have evolved a slightly more close range and less long range visual focus, for fine handiwork, making it slightly harder for them to see the stars.



                                                                                                Aquatic aliens, such as intelligent cephalopods or cetaceans, might have good vision in water but not so good in air and might not be able to see the stars.



                                                                                                And some combination of several of the above factors may prevent the aliens from seeing the stars, whether humans with possibly superior vision can see the stars from the alien planet or the stars are equally hidden from humans.






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                                                                                                • electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday










                                                                                                • goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday














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                                                                                                I would suggest that their solar system is passing through a relatively very dense dust cloud in interstellar space, as others have suggested.



                                                                                                Their solar system would have been passing through it for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, long enough that the intelligent beings living there have no possible way to remember that their pre-intelligent ancestors ever saw stars in the sky.



                                                                                                The gravity of their star system has been pulling in the interstellar dust so that there is a clear cylinder of space pointing out of the dust cloud back the way they came. So that direction should point out toward intergalactic space with only a few stars in their galaxy and no globular star clusters, other galaxies, or intergalactic stars in the light of sight.



                                                                                                The in falling dust doesn't fall all the way to the star, however. At at certain distance range light from the star and particles in the stellar wind from the star hit most of the in falling particles and bounce them back out a bit before they fall back and are bounced out again. Thus there is a relatively dense shell of dust particles at the outer edge of the star system, dense enough to block all light that comes in through the clear cylinder of space and hide the relatively few stars that would have been visible through it.



                                                                                                The inhabited planet could be the only planet in its star system. But maybe there used to be two large planetoids or asteroids orbiting outside the orbit of the inhabited planet, worlds that collided and shattered into dust. Thus there could be an inner dust ring around the star outside the orbit of the planet, a dust ring that might also help to block out the light from the stars.



                                                                                                The atmosphere of the planet should be similar enough to Earth's for the natives, and maybe visiting earthlings, to breath without problems. But the atmosphere doesn't have to be identical to Earth's.



                                                                                                The atmosphere could be naturally foggier, or dustier, or something, than Earth's, thus making it slightly less transparent. And the intelligent natives might be greatly polluting their atmosphere and making it less transparent.



                                                                                                And if the planet has a slightly smaller surface gravity than Earth's, and a slightly higher atmospheric pressure at the surface than Earth's, the atmosphere will extend a bit higher than Earth's. Thus there were be more atmosphere for the light from the stars to pass through and be dimmed than on Earth.



                                                                                                It is possible that there are bioluminescent organisms on land or sea or perhaps in the air that emit a faint glow in most parts of that world. And if the atmosphere is foggier or cloudier at night that glow will be reflected down to the surface, further hiding the stars.



                                                                                                And of course in the cities of the intelligent natives and their suburbs artificial lighting may increase the light pollution as it does on Earth, hiding the stars even more.



                                                                                                The intelligent natives may depend mainly on echolocation and less on their vision, which might not be as good as human vision. And perhaps they have evolved a slightly more close range and less long range visual focus, for fine handiwork, making it slightly harder for them to see the stars.



                                                                                                Aquatic aliens, such as intelligent cephalopods or cetaceans, might have good vision in water but not so good in air and might not be able to see the stars.



                                                                                                And some combination of several of the above factors may prevent the aliens from seeing the stars, whether humans with possibly superior vision can see the stars from the alien planet or the stars are equally hidden from humans.






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                                                                                                I would suggest that their solar system is passing through a relatively very dense dust cloud in interstellar space, as others have suggested.



                                                                                                Their solar system would have been passing through it for hundreds of thousands or millions of years, long enough that the intelligent beings living there have no possible way to remember that their pre-intelligent ancestors ever saw stars in the sky.



                                                                                                The gravity of their star system has been pulling in the interstellar dust so that there is a clear cylinder of space pointing out of the dust cloud back the way they came. So that direction should point out toward intergalactic space with only a few stars in their galaxy and no globular star clusters, other galaxies, or intergalactic stars in the light of sight.



                                                                                                The in falling dust doesn't fall all the way to the star, however. At at certain distance range light from the star and particles in the stellar wind from the star hit most of the in falling particles and bounce them back out a bit before they fall back and are bounced out again. Thus there is a relatively dense shell of dust particles at the outer edge of the star system, dense enough to block all light that comes in through the clear cylinder of space and hide the relatively few stars that would have been visible through it.



                                                                                                The inhabited planet could be the only planet in its star system. But maybe there used to be two large planetoids or asteroids orbiting outside the orbit of the inhabited planet, worlds that collided and shattered into dust. Thus there could be an inner dust ring around the star outside the orbit of the planet, a dust ring that might also help to block out the light from the stars.



                                                                                                The atmosphere of the planet should be similar enough to Earth's for the natives, and maybe visiting earthlings, to breath without problems. But the atmosphere doesn't have to be identical to Earth's.



                                                                                                The atmosphere could be naturally foggier, or dustier, or something, than Earth's, thus making it slightly less transparent. And the intelligent natives might be greatly polluting their atmosphere and making it less transparent.



                                                                                                And if the planet has a slightly smaller surface gravity than Earth's, and a slightly higher atmospheric pressure at the surface than Earth's, the atmosphere will extend a bit higher than Earth's. Thus there were be more atmosphere for the light from the stars to pass through and be dimmed than on Earth.



                                                                                                It is possible that there are bioluminescent organisms on land or sea or perhaps in the air that emit a faint glow in most parts of that world. And if the atmosphere is foggier or cloudier at night that glow will be reflected down to the surface, further hiding the stars.



                                                                                                And of course in the cities of the intelligent natives and their suburbs artificial lighting may increase the light pollution as it does on Earth, hiding the stars even more.



                                                                                                The intelligent natives may depend mainly on echolocation and less on their vision, which might not be as good as human vision. And perhaps they have evolved a slightly more close range and less long range visual focus, for fine handiwork, making it slightly harder for them to see the stars.



                                                                                                Aquatic aliens, such as intelligent cephalopods or cetaceans, might have good vision in water but not so good in air and might not be able to see the stars.



                                                                                                And some combination of several of the above factors may prevent the aliens from seeing the stars, whether humans with possibly superior vision can see the stars from the alien planet or the stars are equally hidden from humans.







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                                                                                                • electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday










                                                                                                • goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday


















                                                                                                • electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday










                                                                                                • goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
                                                                                                  – kagali-san
                                                                                                  yesterday
















                                                                                                electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                – kagali-san
                                                                                                yesterday




                                                                                                electromagnetic waves and especially CMBR might still be noticeable, and once the planet dwellers go after the mysterious force of gravity, they'll end up with a couple of LIGO detectors.
                                                                                                – kagali-san
                                                                                                yesterday












                                                                                                goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
                                                                                                – kagali-san
                                                                                                yesterday




                                                                                                goodreads.com/series/104200-warstrider - quite good approach with the spacefaring (Von N.-prope type) civilization which used no visual clues at all
                                                                                                – kagali-san
                                                                                                yesterday











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                                                                                                Maybe they have vast swarms of firefly-like creatures that come out at night? They figure that they already know what stars are, since they are so obviously these creatures, that they never bothered to question it.



                                                                                                Perhaps the planet has some killer aurora borealis or something that drowns out the stars.



                                                                                                I personally liked the idea from The Three Body Problem which made it so that the intelligent species lived in a trinary system and would go through periods of heat so intense that all water would evaporate, and periods of cold such that the atmosphere would freeze. It would be really hard to get a civilization going when you have a near extinction event every millennia or so.



                                                                                                I also like the idea from Ringworld where these people lived on a failed Dyson Ring, and because the ring didn't have any way to mine metals, these stone-age folks couldn't get back up the technology ladder; they were stuck using stone and wood forever.






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                                                                                                  Maybe they have vast swarms of firefly-like creatures that come out at night? They figure that they already know what stars are, since they are so obviously these creatures, that they never bothered to question it.



                                                                                                  Perhaps the planet has some killer aurora borealis or something that drowns out the stars.



                                                                                                  I personally liked the idea from The Three Body Problem which made it so that the intelligent species lived in a trinary system and would go through periods of heat so intense that all water would evaporate, and periods of cold such that the atmosphere would freeze. It would be really hard to get a civilization going when you have a near extinction event every millennia or so.



                                                                                                  I also like the idea from Ringworld where these people lived on a failed Dyson Ring, and because the ring didn't have any way to mine metals, these stone-age folks couldn't get back up the technology ladder; they were stuck using stone and wood forever.






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                                                                                                    Maybe they have vast swarms of firefly-like creatures that come out at night? They figure that they already know what stars are, since they are so obviously these creatures, that they never bothered to question it.



                                                                                                    Perhaps the planet has some killer aurora borealis or something that drowns out the stars.



                                                                                                    I personally liked the idea from The Three Body Problem which made it so that the intelligent species lived in a trinary system and would go through periods of heat so intense that all water would evaporate, and periods of cold such that the atmosphere would freeze. It would be really hard to get a civilization going when you have a near extinction event every millennia or so.



                                                                                                    I also like the idea from Ringworld where these people lived on a failed Dyson Ring, and because the ring didn't have any way to mine metals, these stone-age folks couldn't get back up the technology ladder; they were stuck using stone and wood forever.






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                                                                                                    Maybe they have vast swarms of firefly-like creatures that come out at night? They figure that they already know what stars are, since they are so obviously these creatures, that they never bothered to question it.



                                                                                                    Perhaps the planet has some killer aurora borealis or something that drowns out the stars.



                                                                                                    I personally liked the idea from The Three Body Problem which made it so that the intelligent species lived in a trinary system and would go through periods of heat so intense that all water would evaporate, and periods of cold such that the atmosphere would freeze. It would be really hard to get a civilization going when you have a near extinction event every millennia or so.



                                                                                                    I also like the idea from Ringworld where these people lived on a failed Dyson Ring, and because the ring didn't have any way to mine metals, these stone-age folks couldn't get back up the technology ladder; they were stuck using stone and wood forever.







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                                                                                                        This society could very well come from our own solar system, our neighboring planets. If this society were to come from Venus, then the dense atmosphere would hide the night sky quite well. Titan also has a very thick atmosphere. And on Titan, I expect that even if the atmosphere had a transparency similar to Earth's, the reflected light from the numerous moons, as well as Jupiter would hide any starlight. The society would, however, know of things beyond their sky, being able to see the Jupiter as well as all the other moons...






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                                                                                                          Some examples from our own solar system:



                                                                                                          This society could very well come from our own solar system, our neighboring planets. If this society were to come from Venus, then the dense atmosphere would hide the night sky quite well. Titan also has a very thick atmosphere. And on Titan, I expect that even if the atmosphere had a transparency similar to Earth's, the reflected light from the numerous moons, as well as Jupiter would hide any starlight. The society would, however, know of things beyond their sky, being able to see the Jupiter as well as all the other moons...






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                                                                                                            This society could very well come from our own solar system, our neighboring planets. If this society were to come from Venus, then the dense atmosphere would hide the night sky quite well. Titan also has a very thick atmosphere. And on Titan, I expect that even if the atmosphere had a transparency similar to Earth's, the reflected light from the numerous moons, as well as Jupiter would hide any starlight. The society would, however, know of things beyond their sky, being able to see the Jupiter as well as all the other moons...






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                                                                                                            Some examples from our own solar system:



                                                                                                            This society could very well come from our own solar system, our neighboring planets. If this society were to come from Venus, then the dense atmosphere would hide the night sky quite well. Titan also has a very thick atmosphere. And on Titan, I expect that even if the atmosphere had a transparency similar to Earth's, the reflected light from the numerous moons, as well as Jupiter would hide any starlight. The society would, however, know of things beyond their sky, being able to see the Jupiter as well as all the other moons...







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