Why can't I see the “wget” job when I execute it in the background?












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I use wget command in the background like this



wget -bq


and it prints




Continuing in background, pid 31754.




But when I type the command jobs, I don't see my job(although the downloading is not finished).






command-line wget background-process job-control







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    You can see it with ps -p 31754

    – RoVo
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  • Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

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I use wget command in the background like this



wget -bq


and it prints




Continuing in background, pid 31754.




But when I type the command jobs, I don't see my job(although the downloading is not finished).






command-line wget background-process job-control







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    You can see it with ps -p 31754

    – RoVo
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  • Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

    – eckes
    2 days ago














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I use wget command in the background like this



wget -bq


and it prints




Continuing in background, pid 31754.




But when I type the command jobs, I don't see my job(although the downloading is not finished).






command-line wget background-process job-control







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I use wget command in the background like this



wget -bq


and it prints




Continuing in background, pid 31754.




But when I type the command jobs, I don't see my job(although the downloading is not finished).






command-line wget background-process job-control




command-line wget background-process job-control






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  • 2





    You can see it with ps -p 31754

    – RoVo
    2 days ago













  • Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

    – eckes
    2 days ago














  • 2





    You can see it with ps -p 31754

    – RoVo
    2 days ago













  • Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

    – eckes
    2 days ago








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You can see it with ps -p 31754

– RoVo
2 days ago







You can see it with ps -p 31754

– RoVo
2 days ago















Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

– eckes
2 days ago





Jjobs only works for the (this) shell job control (namely & annotation, ctrl-z or bg commamd). General process listing (ps -a will show it)

– eckes
2 days ago










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When using wget with -b or --background it puts itself into the background by disassociating from the current shell (by forking off a child process and terminating the parent). Since it's not the shell that puts it in the background as an asynchronous job, it will not show up as a job when you use jobs.



To run wget as an asynchronous (background) job in the shell, use



wget ... URL &


If you do this, you may additionally want to redirect output to some file (which wget does automatically with -b), or discard it by redirecting to /dev/null, or use -q or --quiet.






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    it forks a child and the parent exits

    – user2497
    2 days ago











  • @user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago



















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Because it put it self in the background. Use & to tell bash to put it into background, and to put it into bash's list of jobs.



Background and job control list are not the same. Bash puts all of its background processes into its jobs control list (by default), but processes can be backgrounded with out being put in the list. Only bash can put jobs in its list.



There may be advantages to the -bg option (I don't know what). For example ssh's background option, puts it into the background after asking for a password.






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    It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago



















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The process with pid 31754 exists; if you type ps -e |grep 31754 but as it is not a job that can be moved to the foreground again, it is not displayed by the jobs command. wget -bq automatically send the output to the background without options to move it to the foreground again.






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  • ps has a -p option that can be used to query a specific PID, or one may use pgrep wget.

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When using wget with -b or --background it puts itself into the background by disassociating from the current shell (by forking off a child process and terminating the parent). Since it's not the shell that puts it in the background as an asynchronous job, it will not show up as a job when you use jobs.



To run wget as an asynchronous (background) job in the shell, use



wget ... URL &


If you do this, you may additionally want to redirect output to some file (which wget does automatically with -b), or discard it by redirecting to /dev/null, or use -q or --quiet.






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    it forks a child and the parent exits

    – user2497
    2 days ago











  • @user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago
















19














When using wget with -b or --background it puts itself into the background by disassociating from the current shell (by forking off a child process and terminating the parent). Since it's not the shell that puts it in the background as an asynchronous job, it will not show up as a job when you use jobs.



To run wget as an asynchronous (background) job in the shell, use



wget ... URL &


If you do this, you may additionally want to redirect output to some file (which wget does automatically with -b), or discard it by redirecting to /dev/null, or use -q or --quiet.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    it forks a child and the parent exits

    – user2497
    2 days ago











  • @user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago














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When using wget with -b or --background it puts itself into the background by disassociating from the current shell (by forking off a child process and terminating the parent). Since it's not the shell that puts it in the background as an asynchronous job, it will not show up as a job when you use jobs.



To run wget as an asynchronous (background) job in the shell, use



wget ... URL &


If you do this, you may additionally want to redirect output to some file (which wget does automatically with -b), or discard it by redirecting to /dev/null, or use -q or --quiet.






share|improve this answer















When using wget with -b or --background it puts itself into the background by disassociating from the current shell (by forking off a child process and terminating the parent). Since it's not the shell that puts it in the background as an asynchronous job, it will not show up as a job when you use jobs.



To run wget as an asynchronous (background) job in the shell, use



wget ... URL &


If you do this, you may additionally want to redirect output to some file (which wget does automatically with -b), or discard it by redirecting to /dev/null, or use -q or --quiet.







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    it forks a child and the parent exits

    – user2497
    2 days ago











  • @user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago














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    it forks a child and the parent exits

    – user2497
    2 days ago











  • @user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago








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it forks a child and the parent exits

– user2497
2 days ago





it forks a child and the parent exits

– user2497
2 days ago













@user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

– Kusalananda
2 days ago





@user2497 Yes, see updated answer.

– Kusalananda
2 days ago













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Because it put it self in the background. Use & to tell bash to put it into background, and to put it into bash's list of jobs.



Background and job control list are not the same. Bash puts all of its background processes into its jobs control list (by default), but processes can be backgrounded with out being put in the list. Only bash can put jobs in its list.



There may be advantages to the -bg option (I don't know what). For example ssh's background option, puts it into the background after asking for a password.






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    It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago
















6














Because it put it self in the background. Use & to tell bash to put it into background, and to put it into bash's list of jobs.



Background and job control list are not the same. Bash puts all of its background processes into its jobs control list (by default), but processes can be backgrounded with out being put in the list. Only bash can put jobs in its list.



There may be advantages to the -bg option (I don't know what). For example ssh's background option, puts it into the background after asking for a password.






share|improve this answer



















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    It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago














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Because it put it self in the background. Use & to tell bash to put it into background, and to put it into bash's list of jobs.



Background and job control list are not the same. Bash puts all of its background processes into its jobs control list (by default), but processes can be backgrounded with out being put in the list. Only bash can put jobs in its list.



There may be advantages to the -bg option (I don't know what). For example ssh's background option, puts it into the background after asking for a password.






share|improve this answer













Because it put it self in the background. Use & to tell bash to put it into background, and to put it into bash's list of jobs.



Background and job control list are not the same. Bash puts all of its background processes into its jobs control list (by default), but processes can be backgrounded with out being put in the list. Only bash can put jobs in its list.



There may be advantages to the -bg option (I don't know what). For example ssh's background option, puts it into the background after asking for a password.







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    It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

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It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

– Kusalananda
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It's -bq, i.e. -b and -q, not -bg.

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The process with pid 31754 exists; if you type ps -e |grep 31754 but as it is not a job that can be moved to the foreground again, it is not displayed by the jobs command. wget -bq automatically send the output to the background without options to move it to the foreground again.






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  • ps has a -p option that can be used to query a specific PID, or one may use pgrep wget.

    – Kusalananda
    2 days ago
















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The process with pid 31754 exists; if you type ps -e |grep 31754 but as it is not a job that can be moved to the foreground again, it is not displayed by the jobs command. wget -bq automatically send the output to the background without options to move it to the foreground again.






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    2 days ago














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The process with pid 31754 exists; if you type ps -e |grep 31754 but as it is not a job that can be moved to the foreground again, it is not displayed by the jobs command. wget -bq automatically send the output to the background without options to move it to the foreground again.






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The process with pid 31754 exists; if you type ps -e |grep 31754 but as it is not a job that can be moved to the foreground again, it is not displayed by the jobs command. wget -bq automatically send the output to the background without options to move it to the foreground again.







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ps has a -p option that can be used to query a specific PID, or one may use pgrep wget.

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