Did Phil Conners retain the skills he learned during his 'Groundhog Day'?












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We see Phil Conners learn many different skills including playing the piano, sculpting ice and card-throwing.



After he learns his "life lesson" and breaks the time loop, does he still retain all of these talents?






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    Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

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    Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

    – Skooba
    yesterday











  • @Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

    – Eric Duminil
    yesterday






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    @Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

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We see Phil Conners learn many different skills including playing the piano, sculpting ice and card-throwing.



After he learns his "life lesson" and breaks the time loop, does he still retain all of these talents?






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    Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

    – Odin1806
    yesterday






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    Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

    – Skooba
    yesterday











  • @Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

    – Eric Duminil
    yesterday






  • 1





    @Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

    – jpmc26
    yesterday
















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We see Phil Conners learn many different skills including playing the piano, sculpting ice and card-throwing.



After he learns his "life lesson" and breaks the time loop, does he still retain all of these talents?






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We see Phil Conners learn many different skills including playing the piano, sculpting ice and card-throwing.



After he learns his "life lesson" and breaks the time loop, does he still retain all of these talents?






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    Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

    – Odin1806
    yesterday






  • 1





    Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

    – Skooba
    yesterday











  • @Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

    – Eric Duminil
    yesterday






  • 1





    @Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

    – jpmc26
    yesterday
















  • 9





    Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

    – Odin1806
    yesterday






  • 1





    Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

    – Skooba
    yesterday











  • @Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

    – Eric Duminil
    yesterday






  • 1





    @Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

    – jpmc26
    yesterday










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Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

– Odin1806
yesterday





Been a long time since I have seen this one, but if he remembered everything from the loops into the last one, then broke the loop because he learned his lesson, and remembered the lesson he was suppose to learn it stands to reason that he would have remembered everything that had happened since the first loop so that he would know what he had done to create the necessity to learn the lesson in the first place... IMO...

– Odin1806
yesterday




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Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

– Skooba
yesterday





Happy Groundhog Day 2019 everyone! Phil didn't see his shadow, so early Spring!

– Skooba
yesterday













@Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

– Eric Duminil
yesterday





@Odin1806 exactly. The movie would be really boring, not to mention endless, if Phil didn't remember the previous days.

– Eric Duminil
yesterday




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@Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

– jpmc26
yesterday







@Odin1806 I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that without some backing. Remembering only the lesson learned is sometimes used as a form of a common trope.

– jpmc26
yesterday












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In several earlier drafts of the film script it's made completely explicit that he does indeed retain these abilities as well as his memories of the entire experience.




PHIL: Did I just dream it?



[Phil opens the door and runs into the hallway wearing only
pajama bottoms.]



RITA: Phil? Phil!



[Rita sits up in bed and waits. Suddenly, from somewhere else in the inn comes the sound of Phil at the piano expertly playing a difficult classical piece. He stops after a few bars.]



PHIL (O.C.): Yeah!!!!



[Phil runs back into the room.]



PHIL: It really happened! You're really here!




Although the scene was ultimately trimmed down, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume that this doesn't continue to be the case.






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    It is not clear at what point the loop is "officially" broken, but Phil demonstrates several of his skills over the course of that last day. He clearly seems to retain knowledge about the town on the morning of February 3, and absent some reason to think otherwise, I think he would have retained everything he learned. (The producers have commented that Phil spent something like ten subjective years in Punxsutawney.)






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      Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

      – Graham
      yesterday








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      @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

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    Yes, I would assume Phil kept these talents, because he was supposed to learn a life lesson before the loop reset. We can safely assume that since Phil kept memory of his life lesson, he also retained these skills.






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      In several earlier drafts of the film script it's made completely explicit that he does indeed retain these abilities as well as his memories of the entire experience.




      PHIL: Did I just dream it?



      [Phil opens the door and runs into the hallway wearing only
      pajama bottoms.]



      RITA: Phil? Phil!



      [Rita sits up in bed and waits. Suddenly, from somewhere else in the inn comes the sound of Phil at the piano expertly playing a difficult classical piece. He stops after a few bars.]



      PHIL (O.C.): Yeah!!!!



      [Phil runs back into the room.]



      PHIL: It really happened! You're really here!




      Although the scene was ultimately trimmed down, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume that this doesn't continue to be the case.






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        In several earlier drafts of the film script it's made completely explicit that he does indeed retain these abilities as well as his memories of the entire experience.




        PHIL: Did I just dream it?



        [Phil opens the door and runs into the hallway wearing only
        pajama bottoms.]



        RITA: Phil? Phil!



        [Rita sits up in bed and waits. Suddenly, from somewhere else in the inn comes the sound of Phil at the piano expertly playing a difficult classical piece. He stops after a few bars.]



        PHIL (O.C.): Yeah!!!!



        [Phil runs back into the room.]



        PHIL: It really happened! You're really here!




        Although the scene was ultimately trimmed down, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume that this doesn't continue to be the case.






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          In several earlier drafts of the film script it's made completely explicit that he does indeed retain these abilities as well as his memories of the entire experience.




          PHIL: Did I just dream it?



          [Phil opens the door and runs into the hallway wearing only
          pajama bottoms.]



          RITA: Phil? Phil!



          [Rita sits up in bed and waits. Suddenly, from somewhere else in the inn comes the sound of Phil at the piano expertly playing a difficult classical piece. He stops after a few bars.]



          PHIL (O.C.): Yeah!!!!



          [Phil runs back into the room.]



          PHIL: It really happened! You're really here!




          Although the scene was ultimately trimmed down, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume that this doesn't continue to be the case.






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          In several earlier drafts of the film script it's made completely explicit that he does indeed retain these abilities as well as his memories of the entire experience.




          PHIL: Did I just dream it?



          [Phil opens the door and runs into the hallway wearing only
          pajama bottoms.]



          RITA: Phil? Phil!



          [Rita sits up in bed and waits. Suddenly, from somewhere else in the inn comes the sound of Phil at the piano expertly playing a difficult classical piece. He stops after a few bars.]



          PHIL (O.C.): Yeah!!!!



          [Phil runs back into the room.]



          PHIL: It really happened! You're really here!




          Although the scene was ultimately trimmed down, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to assume that this doesn't continue to be the case.







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              It is not clear at what point the loop is "officially" broken, but Phil demonstrates several of his skills over the course of that last day. He clearly seems to retain knowledge about the town on the morning of February 3, and absent some reason to think otherwise, I think he would have retained everything he learned. (The producers have commented that Phil spent something like ten subjective years in Punxsutawney.)






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                Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

                – Graham
                yesterday








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                @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

                – Valorum
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              It is not clear at what point the loop is "officially" broken, but Phil demonstrates several of his skills over the course of that last day. He clearly seems to retain knowledge about the town on the morning of February 3, and absent some reason to think otherwise, I think he would have retained everything he learned. (The producers have commented that Phil spent something like ten subjective years in Punxsutawney.)






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              • 2





                Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

                – Graham
                yesterday








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                @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

                – Valorum
                18 hours ago














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              It is not clear at what point the loop is "officially" broken, but Phil demonstrates several of his skills over the course of that last day. He clearly seems to retain knowledge about the town on the morning of February 3, and absent some reason to think otherwise, I think he would have retained everything he learned. (The producers have commented that Phil spent something like ten subjective years in Punxsutawney.)






              share|improve this answer













              It is not clear at what point the loop is "officially" broken, but Phil demonstrates several of his skills over the course of that last day. He clearly seems to retain knowledge about the town on the morning of February 3, and absent some reason to think otherwise, I think he would have retained everything he learned. (The producers have commented that Phil spent something like ten subjective years in Punxsutawney.)







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                Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

                – Graham
                yesterday








              • 1





                @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

                – Valorum
                18 hours ago














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                Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

                – Graham
                yesterday








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                @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

                – Valorum
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              Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

              – Graham
              yesterday







              Ramis since said that it was more like 30-40 years, given what he'd achieved. For me, the card-throwing scene is the kicker. He's spent so long learning everything worthwhile, he's doing anything to make the time pass.

              – Graham
              yesterday






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              @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

              – Valorum
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              @Graham - It was 40 years in the final analysis, but in earlier drafts it was thousands of years

              – Valorum
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              Yes, I would assume Phil kept these talents, because he was supposed to learn a life lesson before the loop reset. We can safely assume that since Phil kept memory of his life lesson, he also retained these skills.






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                Yes, I would assume Phil kept these talents, because he was supposed to learn a life lesson before the loop reset. We can safely assume that since Phil kept memory of his life lesson, he also retained these skills.






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