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I would like to ask, what kind of grammatical constructions do we have in sentences below. I can't figure out how these sentences works.



The first one:




If you think you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




It looks like Present Unreal Conditional or perhaps mix of Present Real and Unreal Conditionals, but as far as I understand conditionals it should look like this:




If you thought you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




The second one is:




If you would have just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




I totally do not understand why after "if" we have "would". I understand that "would" represents the future from the perspective of the past. But doesn't it mean that there shouldn't be future in time clauses?



The whole sentence looks like Past Unreal Conditional, but it should probably look like:




If you had just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




Thank you very much in advance for your help.










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  • The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

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I would like to ask, what kind of grammatical constructions do we have in sentences below. I can't figure out how these sentences works.



The first one:




If you think you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




It looks like Present Unreal Conditional or perhaps mix of Present Real and Unreal Conditionals, but as far as I understand conditionals it should look like this:




If you thought you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




The second one is:




If you would have just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




I totally do not understand why after "if" we have "would". I understand that "would" represents the future from the perspective of the past. But doesn't it mean that there shouldn't be future in time clauses?



The whole sentence looks like Past Unreal Conditional, but it should probably look like:




If you had just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




Thank you very much in advance for your help.










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  • The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

    – Shoe
    21 hours ago














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I would like to ask, what kind of grammatical constructions do we have in sentences below. I can't figure out how these sentences works.



The first one:




If you think you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




It looks like Present Unreal Conditional or perhaps mix of Present Real and Unreal Conditionals, but as far as I understand conditionals it should look like this:




If you thought you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




The second one is:




If you would have just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




I totally do not understand why after "if" we have "would". I understand that "would" represents the future from the perspective of the past. But doesn't it mean that there shouldn't be future in time clauses?



The whole sentence looks like Past Unreal Conditional, but it should probably look like:




If you had just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




Thank you very much in advance for your help.










share|improve this question














I would like to ask, what kind of grammatical constructions do we have in sentences below. I can't figure out how these sentences works.



The first one:




If you think you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




It looks like Present Unreal Conditional or perhaps mix of Present Real and Unreal Conditionals, but as far as I understand conditionals it should look like this:




If you thought you can kill me, I would like to see you try.




The second one is:




If you would have just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




I totally do not understand why after "if" we have "would". I understand that "would" represents the future from the perspective of the past. But doesn't it mean that there shouldn't be future in time clauses?



The whole sentence looks like Past Unreal Conditional, but it should probably look like:




If you had just left this one behind, you would have possibly
been able
to make it to the weapons room and put up a struggle against
us.




Thank you very much in advance for your help.







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  • The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

    – Shoe
    21 hours ago



















  • The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

    – Shoe
    21 hours ago

















The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

– Shoe
21 hours ago





The first sentence is a so-called mixed conditional. There is a discussion of a similar construction here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/403146/… . The second sentence has would in both clauses. See here for a discussion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/427103/…

– Shoe
21 hours ago










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