Graded/ungraded adjectives and grading/non-grading adverbs
I saw in the Farlex Grammar Book an explanation of gradable adjectives and graded adverbs. It lists the following words as examples of each category:
Gradable adjectives
small
cold
hot
difficult
sad
Non-gradable adjectives
tiny
freezing
boiling
impossible
devastated
Grading adverb
absolutely
utterly
fully
virtually
completely
Non-grading adverbs
a bit
dreadfully
unusually
extremely
slightly
The rule it states is that non-grading adverbs "can generally only" modify non-gradable adjectives, and grading adverbs "are generally only paired with" gradable adjectives. So:
absolutely small
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectivea bit small
(correct) grading adverb and gradable adjectivecompletely sad
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectiveslightly sad
(correct) grading adverb and gradable
adjective
It contains this note:
Note that in informal speech or writing, many grammar rules are often ignored, misused, or misunderstood, so you may come across non-grading adverbs used with gradable adjectives (e.g., “utterly surprised,” “absolutely interested”) or grading adverbs used with non-gradable adjectives (e.g., “extremely certain,” “very tiny”). However, other than the exceptions listed above, this usage should be avoided, especially in formal or professional writing.
The exceptions it's referring to are the adverbs really, fairly, pretty and quite, which can modify both gradable AND ungradable adjectives. And so considers the following acceptable:
- pretty freezing
- fairly impossible
I consider it strange that it implies "utterly surprised" or "very tiny" to be ungrammatical (or at least bad style), and yet considers "pretty freezing" and "fairly impossible" to be fine.
I started experimenting with mixing mismatched adverbs and adjectives from the above source, along with a couple of others, including (englishclub.com [grammar]) that is, gradables with non-gradeds and vice versa. Some examples I found to be fine (by my standards, at least) were:
perfectly happy
(non-graded adv. + gradable adj.)
very awful / extremely awful
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
nearly dead / almost dead
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
virtually unknown
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
more terrible / more terrifying
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
The Farlex source seems to imply my above examples are ungrammatical or at the very least should be avoided in formal writing.
The same thing seems to be implied at the other source (englishclub.com).
I'm wondering if either is true, whether they're ungrammatical or to be avoided in formal writing?
Also, a quick second question, if I may:
At learnenglish.britishcouncil.org it says:
Adjectives like ‘terrifying’, ‘freezing’ ‘amazing’ are also non-gradable adjectives. They already contain the idea of ‘very’ in their definitions – ‘freezing’ means ‘very cold’.
And at englishclub.com
Non-gradable adjectives do not normally have comparative and superlative forms.
And gives the example that you can't have "more dead" or "more freezing". I agree with that, but that definitely doesn't seem to be the case for amazing, terrifying, and terrible, which are all considered ungradables. Also I see nothing wrong with saying that Village A was more devastated by the war/drought than Village B (devastated being an ungradable adjective).
Am I wrong in thinking that there's nothing wrong with "more amazing" or "more terrifying"? Example: "It's more amazing/terrifying than you can imagine." It seems the sources are telling me these words shouldn't be comparable. Are they right?
grammar adjectives adverbs gradability
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I saw in the Farlex Grammar Book an explanation of gradable adjectives and graded adverbs. It lists the following words as examples of each category:
Gradable adjectives
small
cold
hot
difficult
sad
Non-gradable adjectives
tiny
freezing
boiling
impossible
devastated
Grading adverb
absolutely
utterly
fully
virtually
completely
Non-grading adverbs
a bit
dreadfully
unusually
extremely
slightly
The rule it states is that non-grading adverbs "can generally only" modify non-gradable adjectives, and grading adverbs "are generally only paired with" gradable adjectives. So:
absolutely small
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectivea bit small
(correct) grading adverb and gradable adjectivecompletely sad
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectiveslightly sad
(correct) grading adverb and gradable
adjective
It contains this note:
Note that in informal speech or writing, many grammar rules are often ignored, misused, or misunderstood, so you may come across non-grading adverbs used with gradable adjectives (e.g., “utterly surprised,” “absolutely interested”) or grading adverbs used with non-gradable adjectives (e.g., “extremely certain,” “very tiny”). However, other than the exceptions listed above, this usage should be avoided, especially in formal or professional writing.
The exceptions it's referring to are the adverbs really, fairly, pretty and quite, which can modify both gradable AND ungradable adjectives. And so considers the following acceptable:
- pretty freezing
- fairly impossible
I consider it strange that it implies "utterly surprised" or "very tiny" to be ungrammatical (or at least bad style), and yet considers "pretty freezing" and "fairly impossible" to be fine.
I started experimenting with mixing mismatched adverbs and adjectives from the above source, along with a couple of others, including (englishclub.com [grammar]) that is, gradables with non-gradeds and vice versa. Some examples I found to be fine (by my standards, at least) were:
perfectly happy
(non-graded adv. + gradable adj.)
very awful / extremely awful
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
nearly dead / almost dead
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
virtually unknown
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
more terrible / more terrifying
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
The Farlex source seems to imply my above examples are ungrammatical or at the very least should be avoided in formal writing.
The same thing seems to be implied at the other source (englishclub.com).
I'm wondering if either is true, whether they're ungrammatical or to be avoided in formal writing?
Also, a quick second question, if I may:
At learnenglish.britishcouncil.org it says:
Adjectives like ‘terrifying’, ‘freezing’ ‘amazing’ are also non-gradable adjectives. They already contain the idea of ‘very’ in their definitions – ‘freezing’ means ‘very cold’.
And at englishclub.com
Non-gradable adjectives do not normally have comparative and superlative forms.
And gives the example that you can't have "more dead" or "more freezing". I agree with that, but that definitely doesn't seem to be the case for amazing, terrifying, and terrible, which are all considered ungradables. Also I see nothing wrong with saying that Village A was more devastated by the war/drought than Village B (devastated being an ungradable adjective).
Am I wrong in thinking that there's nothing wrong with "more amazing" or "more terrifying"? Example: "It's more amazing/terrifying than you can imagine." It seems the sources are telling me these words shouldn't be comparable. Are they right?
grammar adjectives adverbs gradability
You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago
add a comment |
I saw in the Farlex Grammar Book an explanation of gradable adjectives and graded adverbs. It lists the following words as examples of each category:
Gradable adjectives
small
cold
hot
difficult
sad
Non-gradable adjectives
tiny
freezing
boiling
impossible
devastated
Grading adverb
absolutely
utterly
fully
virtually
completely
Non-grading adverbs
a bit
dreadfully
unusually
extremely
slightly
The rule it states is that non-grading adverbs "can generally only" modify non-gradable adjectives, and grading adverbs "are generally only paired with" gradable adjectives. So:
absolutely small
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectivea bit small
(correct) grading adverb and gradable adjectivecompletely sad
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectiveslightly sad
(correct) grading adverb and gradable
adjective
It contains this note:
Note that in informal speech or writing, many grammar rules are often ignored, misused, or misunderstood, so you may come across non-grading adverbs used with gradable adjectives (e.g., “utterly surprised,” “absolutely interested”) or grading adverbs used with non-gradable adjectives (e.g., “extremely certain,” “very tiny”). However, other than the exceptions listed above, this usage should be avoided, especially in formal or professional writing.
The exceptions it's referring to are the adverbs really, fairly, pretty and quite, which can modify both gradable AND ungradable adjectives. And so considers the following acceptable:
- pretty freezing
- fairly impossible
I consider it strange that it implies "utterly surprised" or "very tiny" to be ungrammatical (or at least bad style), and yet considers "pretty freezing" and "fairly impossible" to be fine.
I started experimenting with mixing mismatched adverbs and adjectives from the above source, along with a couple of others, including (englishclub.com [grammar]) that is, gradables with non-gradeds and vice versa. Some examples I found to be fine (by my standards, at least) were:
perfectly happy
(non-graded adv. + gradable adj.)
very awful / extremely awful
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
nearly dead / almost dead
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
virtually unknown
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
more terrible / more terrifying
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
The Farlex source seems to imply my above examples are ungrammatical or at the very least should be avoided in formal writing.
The same thing seems to be implied at the other source (englishclub.com).
I'm wondering if either is true, whether they're ungrammatical or to be avoided in formal writing?
Also, a quick second question, if I may:
At learnenglish.britishcouncil.org it says:
Adjectives like ‘terrifying’, ‘freezing’ ‘amazing’ are also non-gradable adjectives. They already contain the idea of ‘very’ in their definitions – ‘freezing’ means ‘very cold’.
And at englishclub.com
Non-gradable adjectives do not normally have comparative and superlative forms.
And gives the example that you can't have "more dead" or "more freezing". I agree with that, but that definitely doesn't seem to be the case for amazing, terrifying, and terrible, which are all considered ungradables. Also I see nothing wrong with saying that Village A was more devastated by the war/drought than Village B (devastated being an ungradable adjective).
Am I wrong in thinking that there's nothing wrong with "more amazing" or "more terrifying"? Example: "It's more amazing/terrifying than you can imagine." It seems the sources are telling me these words shouldn't be comparable. Are they right?
grammar adjectives adverbs gradability
I saw in the Farlex Grammar Book an explanation of gradable adjectives and graded adverbs. It lists the following words as examples of each category:
Gradable adjectives
small
cold
hot
difficult
sad
Non-gradable adjectives
tiny
freezing
boiling
impossible
devastated
Grading adverb
absolutely
utterly
fully
virtually
completely
Non-grading adverbs
a bit
dreadfully
unusually
extremely
slightly
The rule it states is that non-grading adverbs "can generally only" modify non-gradable adjectives, and grading adverbs "are generally only paired with" gradable adjectives. So:
absolutely small
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectivea bit small
(correct) grading adverb and gradable adjectivecompletely sad
(wrong) non-grading adverb and gradable adjectiveslightly sad
(correct) grading adverb and gradable
adjective
It contains this note:
Note that in informal speech or writing, many grammar rules are often ignored, misused, or misunderstood, so you may come across non-grading adverbs used with gradable adjectives (e.g., “utterly surprised,” “absolutely interested”) or grading adverbs used with non-gradable adjectives (e.g., “extremely certain,” “very tiny”). However, other than the exceptions listed above, this usage should be avoided, especially in formal or professional writing.
The exceptions it's referring to are the adverbs really, fairly, pretty and quite, which can modify both gradable AND ungradable adjectives. And so considers the following acceptable:
- pretty freezing
- fairly impossible
I consider it strange that it implies "utterly surprised" or "very tiny" to be ungrammatical (or at least bad style), and yet considers "pretty freezing" and "fairly impossible" to be fine.
I started experimenting with mixing mismatched adverbs and adjectives from the above source, along with a couple of others, including (englishclub.com [grammar]) that is, gradables with non-gradeds and vice versa. Some examples I found to be fine (by my standards, at least) were:
perfectly happy
(non-graded adv. + gradable adj.)
very awful / extremely awful
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
nearly dead / almost dead
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
virtually unknown
(non-graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
more terrible / more terrifying
(graded adv. + ungradable adj.)
The Farlex source seems to imply my above examples are ungrammatical or at the very least should be avoided in formal writing.
The same thing seems to be implied at the other source (englishclub.com).
I'm wondering if either is true, whether they're ungrammatical or to be avoided in formal writing?
Also, a quick second question, if I may:
At learnenglish.britishcouncil.org it says:
Adjectives like ‘terrifying’, ‘freezing’ ‘amazing’ are also non-gradable adjectives. They already contain the idea of ‘very’ in their definitions – ‘freezing’ means ‘very cold’.
And at englishclub.com
Non-gradable adjectives do not normally have comparative and superlative forms.
And gives the example that you can't have "more dead" or "more freezing". I agree with that, but that definitely doesn't seem to be the case for amazing, terrifying, and terrible, which are all considered ungradables. Also I see nothing wrong with saying that Village A was more devastated by the war/drought than Village B (devastated being an ungradable adjective).
Am I wrong in thinking that there's nothing wrong with "more amazing" or "more terrifying"? Example: "It's more amazing/terrifying than you can imagine." It seems the sources are telling me these words shouldn't be comparable. Are they right?
grammar adjectives adverbs gradability
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You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago
add a comment |
You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago
You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago
You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago
add a comment |
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You are right and Farlex is wrong. However, if English is not your native language, and you want your speaking and writing to be clearly understood, it’s reasonable to stay within some simple rules, even though you lose out on some perfectly good expressions.
– Global Charm
10 hours ago