Limits and Infinite Integration by Parts












9












$begingroup$


It is well known that
$$int frac{sin(x)}{x} ,dx$$
cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions. However, if we repeatedly use integration by parts, we seem to be able to at least approximate the integral through the formula
$$int f(x) ,dx approx sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
where $a in mathbb{N}$. When plugging this in to a graphing calculator, it converges, but very slowly. It also tends to converge more quickly for functions that tend to $0$ as $x to infty$. My guess is that
$$int f(x) ,dx = lim_{atoinfty}sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
at least on a certain interval, but I am uncertain where to look to learn more about these series. Any ideas? Thanks!










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$

















    9












    $begingroup$


    It is well known that
    $$int frac{sin(x)}{x} ,dx$$
    cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions. However, if we repeatedly use integration by parts, we seem to be able to at least approximate the integral through the formula
    $$int f(x) ,dx approx sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
    where $a in mathbb{N}$. When plugging this in to a graphing calculator, it converges, but very slowly. It also tends to converge more quickly for functions that tend to $0$ as $x to infty$. My guess is that
    $$int f(x) ,dx = lim_{atoinfty}sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
    at least on a certain interval, but I am uncertain where to look to learn more about these series. Any ideas? Thanks!










    share|cite|improve this question









    $endgroup$















      9












      9








      9


      4



      $begingroup$


      It is well known that
      $$int frac{sin(x)}{x} ,dx$$
      cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions. However, if we repeatedly use integration by parts, we seem to be able to at least approximate the integral through the formula
      $$int f(x) ,dx approx sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
      where $a in mathbb{N}$. When plugging this in to a graphing calculator, it converges, but very slowly. It also tends to converge more quickly for functions that tend to $0$ as $x to infty$. My guess is that
      $$int f(x) ,dx = lim_{atoinfty}sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
      at least on a certain interval, but I am uncertain where to look to learn more about these series. Any ideas? Thanks!










      share|cite|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      It is well known that
      $$int frac{sin(x)}{x} ,dx$$
      cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions. However, if we repeatedly use integration by parts, we seem to be able to at least approximate the integral through the formula
      $$int f(x) ,dx approx sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
      where $a in mathbb{N}$. When plugging this in to a graphing calculator, it converges, but very slowly. It also tends to converge more quickly for functions that tend to $0$ as $x to infty$. My guess is that
      $$int f(x) ,dx = lim_{atoinfty}sum_{n=1}^a frac{(-1)^{n-1}cdot f^{(n-1)}(x)cdot x^n}{n!}$$
      at least on a certain interval, but I am uncertain where to look to learn more about these series. Any ideas? Thanks!







      real-analysis calculus integration sequences-and-series






      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question











      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question










      asked Mar 22 at 21:07









      HyperionHyperion

      702111




      702111






















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          18












          $begingroup$

          You've essentially rediscovered Taylor series.
          Let $G(x)$ be an antiderivative of $f(x)$, so $f^{(k)}(x) = G^{(k+1)}(x)$ for $k ge 0$. If $G$ is analytic in a neighbourhood of $0$, and $x$ is in that neighbourhood,



          $$ G(0) = sum_{k=0}^infty G^{(k)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!} = G(x) + sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!}$$



          i.e.
          $$ int_0^x f(t); dt = G(x)- G(0) = sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-1)^{k-1} x^k}{k!} $$






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$














            Your Answer





            StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
            return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
            StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
            StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
            });
            });
            }, "mathjax-editing");

            StackExchange.ready(function() {
            var channelOptions = {
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "69"
            };
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
            createEditor();
            });
            }
            else {
            createEditor();
            }
            });

            function createEditor() {
            StackExchange.prepareEditor({
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
            convertImagesToLinks: true,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: 10,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader: {
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            },
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            });


            }
            });














            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3158687%2flimits-and-infinite-integration-by-parts%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            1 Answer
            1






            active

            oldest

            votes








            1 Answer
            1






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes









            18












            $begingroup$

            You've essentially rediscovered Taylor series.
            Let $G(x)$ be an antiderivative of $f(x)$, so $f^{(k)}(x) = G^{(k+1)}(x)$ for $k ge 0$. If $G$ is analytic in a neighbourhood of $0$, and $x$ is in that neighbourhood,



            $$ G(0) = sum_{k=0}^infty G^{(k)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!} = G(x) + sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!}$$



            i.e.
            $$ int_0^x f(t); dt = G(x)- G(0) = sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-1)^{k-1} x^k}{k!} $$






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$


















              18












              $begingroup$

              You've essentially rediscovered Taylor series.
              Let $G(x)$ be an antiderivative of $f(x)$, so $f^{(k)}(x) = G^{(k+1)}(x)$ for $k ge 0$. If $G$ is analytic in a neighbourhood of $0$, and $x$ is in that neighbourhood,



              $$ G(0) = sum_{k=0}^infty G^{(k)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!} = G(x) + sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!}$$



              i.e.
              $$ int_0^x f(t); dt = G(x)- G(0) = sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-1)^{k-1} x^k}{k!} $$






              share|cite|improve this answer









              $endgroup$
















                18












                18








                18





                $begingroup$

                You've essentially rediscovered Taylor series.
                Let $G(x)$ be an antiderivative of $f(x)$, so $f^{(k)}(x) = G^{(k+1)}(x)$ for $k ge 0$. If $G$ is analytic in a neighbourhood of $0$, and $x$ is in that neighbourhood,



                $$ G(0) = sum_{k=0}^infty G^{(k)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!} = G(x) + sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!}$$



                i.e.
                $$ int_0^x f(t); dt = G(x)- G(0) = sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-1)^{k-1} x^k}{k!} $$






                share|cite|improve this answer









                $endgroup$



                You've essentially rediscovered Taylor series.
                Let $G(x)$ be an antiderivative of $f(x)$, so $f^{(k)}(x) = G^{(k+1)}(x)$ for $k ge 0$. If $G$ is analytic in a neighbourhood of $0$, and $x$ is in that neighbourhood,



                $$ G(0) = sum_{k=0}^infty G^{(k)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!} = G(x) + sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-x)^k}{k!}$$



                i.e.
                $$ int_0^x f(t); dt = G(x)- G(0) = sum_{k=1}^infty f^{(k-1)}(x) frac{(-1)^{k-1} x^k}{k!} $$







                share|cite|improve this answer












                share|cite|improve this answer



                share|cite|improve this answer










                answered Mar 22 at 21:18









                Robert IsraelRobert Israel

                330k23218473




                330k23218473






























                    draft saved

                    draft discarded




















































                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                    But avoid



                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                    draft saved


                    draft discarded














                    StackExchange.ready(
                    function () {
                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3158687%2flimits-and-infinite-integration-by-parts%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                    }
                    );

                    Post as a guest















                    Required, but never shown





















































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown

































                    Required, but never shown














                    Required, but never shown












                    Required, but never shown







                    Required, but never shown







                    Popular posts from this blog

                    "Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'ON'. (on update cascade, on delete cascade,)

                    Alcedinidae

                    Origin of the phrase “under your belt”?