How do I fight with Heavy Armor as a Wizard with Tenser's Transformation?












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Tenser's Transformation is a rather unique, gish-y spell that lets wizards toss their spellbooks aside and take up arms like their Fighter counterparts.



One aspect of this spell that disappoints me is its interaction with armor; specifically, Heavy Armor.



Tenser's Transformation, among other things, gives proficiency with all things martial, and lasts 10 minutes:




You have proficiency with all armor, shields, simple weapons, and martial weapons.




This is great and all, until you realize that all armor takes time to don:





  • Light Armor - 1 minute

  • Medium Armor - 5 minutes

  • Heavy Armor - 10 minutes




Wizards are naturally proficient in none of these. This means they cannot cast spells with the armor on, which creates the conundrum of being unable to start this spell with the appropriate armor on, and being unable to put on the best armor without the spell running out or being generally combat inviable.



To get even more meta, consider these next points:





  1. Tenser's Transformation takes 1 action to cast, which implies that this is a start of combat spell. However, it would take 10 combat rounds to don the weakest form of armor, Light, which is unacceptable for a real combat situation - most combats are over in 3-4 rounds.

  2. A Wizard will generally not have a fantastic Dexterity stat, and thus will not benefit from taking the time to don Light or Medium armor.


  3. Mage Armor, (a 1st level spell), would beat most Light and Medium options for a Wizard wanting to don armor with this spell - this makes the armor portion of this spell even more useless.

  4. This makes Heavy Armor the most obvious choice for this spell, but it would take your entire time to don the armor. This leads to the comical situation of the Wizard casting Tenser's, slowly putting on his heavy armor, having the spell end, and then being forced to doff it because he's unable to cast spells now. Hilarious.


Without multiclassing, using Feats, or using magic items like Cast-Off armor, is there any way for a Vanilla Wizard to start a fight with Tenser's Transformation and Heavy Armor?






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    Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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    Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
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    I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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    You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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Tenser's Transformation is a rather unique, gish-y spell that lets wizards toss their spellbooks aside and take up arms like their Fighter counterparts.



One aspect of this spell that disappoints me is its interaction with armor; specifically, Heavy Armor.



Tenser's Transformation, among other things, gives proficiency with all things martial, and lasts 10 minutes:




You have proficiency with all armor, shields, simple weapons, and martial weapons.




This is great and all, until you realize that all armor takes time to don:





  • Light Armor - 1 minute

  • Medium Armor - 5 minutes

  • Heavy Armor - 10 minutes




Wizards are naturally proficient in none of these. This means they cannot cast spells with the armor on, which creates the conundrum of being unable to start this spell with the appropriate armor on, and being unable to put on the best armor without the spell running out or being generally combat inviable.



To get even more meta, consider these next points:





  1. Tenser's Transformation takes 1 action to cast, which implies that this is a start of combat spell. However, it would take 10 combat rounds to don the weakest form of armor, Light, which is unacceptable for a real combat situation - most combats are over in 3-4 rounds.

  2. A Wizard will generally not have a fantastic Dexterity stat, and thus will not benefit from taking the time to don Light or Medium armor.


  3. Mage Armor, (a 1st level spell), would beat most Light and Medium options for a Wizard wanting to don armor with this spell - this makes the armor portion of this spell even more useless.

  4. This makes Heavy Armor the most obvious choice for this spell, but it would take your entire time to don the armor. This leads to the comical situation of the Wizard casting Tenser's, slowly putting on his heavy armor, having the spell end, and then being forced to doff it because he's unable to cast spells now. Hilarious.


Without multiclassing, using Feats, or using magic items like Cast-Off armor, is there any way for a Vanilla Wizard to start a fight with Tenser's Transformation and Heavy Armor?






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    Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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    Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
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    – Nicbobo
    7 hours ago






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    I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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    You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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Tenser's Transformation is a rather unique, gish-y spell that lets wizards toss their spellbooks aside and take up arms like their Fighter counterparts.



One aspect of this spell that disappoints me is its interaction with armor; specifically, Heavy Armor.



Tenser's Transformation, among other things, gives proficiency with all things martial, and lasts 10 minutes:




You have proficiency with all armor, shields, simple weapons, and martial weapons.




This is great and all, until you realize that all armor takes time to don:





  • Light Armor - 1 minute

  • Medium Armor - 5 minutes

  • Heavy Armor - 10 minutes




Wizards are naturally proficient in none of these. This means they cannot cast spells with the armor on, which creates the conundrum of being unable to start this spell with the appropriate armor on, and being unable to put on the best armor without the spell running out or being generally combat inviable.



To get even more meta, consider these next points:





  1. Tenser's Transformation takes 1 action to cast, which implies that this is a start of combat spell. However, it would take 10 combat rounds to don the weakest form of armor, Light, which is unacceptable for a real combat situation - most combats are over in 3-4 rounds.

  2. A Wizard will generally not have a fantastic Dexterity stat, and thus will not benefit from taking the time to don Light or Medium armor.


  3. Mage Armor, (a 1st level spell), would beat most Light and Medium options for a Wizard wanting to don armor with this spell - this makes the armor portion of this spell even more useless.

  4. This makes Heavy Armor the most obvious choice for this spell, but it would take your entire time to don the armor. This leads to the comical situation of the Wizard casting Tenser's, slowly putting on his heavy armor, having the spell end, and then being forced to doff it because he's unable to cast spells now. Hilarious.


Without multiclassing, using Feats, or using magic items like Cast-Off armor, is there any way for a Vanilla Wizard to start a fight with Tenser's Transformation and Heavy Armor?






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Tenser's Transformation is a rather unique, gish-y spell that lets wizards toss their spellbooks aside and take up arms like their Fighter counterparts.



One aspect of this spell that disappoints me is its interaction with armor; specifically, Heavy Armor.



Tenser's Transformation, among other things, gives proficiency with all things martial, and lasts 10 minutes:




You have proficiency with all armor, shields, simple weapons, and martial weapons.




This is great and all, until you realize that all armor takes time to don:





  • Light Armor - 1 minute

  • Medium Armor - 5 minutes

  • Heavy Armor - 10 minutes




Wizards are naturally proficient in none of these. This means they cannot cast spells with the armor on, which creates the conundrum of being unable to start this spell with the appropriate armor on, and being unable to put on the best armor without the spell running out or being generally combat inviable.



To get even more meta, consider these next points:





  1. Tenser's Transformation takes 1 action to cast, which implies that this is a start of combat spell. However, it would take 10 combat rounds to don the weakest form of armor, Light, which is unacceptable for a real combat situation - most combats are over in 3-4 rounds.

  2. A Wizard will generally not have a fantastic Dexterity stat, and thus will not benefit from taking the time to don Light or Medium armor.


  3. Mage Armor, (a 1st level spell), would beat most Light and Medium options for a Wizard wanting to don armor with this spell - this makes the armor portion of this spell even more useless.

  4. This makes Heavy Armor the most obvious choice for this spell, but it would take your entire time to don the armor. This leads to the comical situation of the Wizard casting Tenser's, slowly putting on his heavy armor, having the spell end, and then being forced to doff it because he's unable to cast spells now. Hilarious.


Without multiclassing, using Feats, or using magic items like Cast-Off armor, is there any way for a Vanilla Wizard to start a fight with Tenser's Transformation and Heavy Armor?






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    Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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    Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
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    – Nicbobo
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    I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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    You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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    Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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    Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
    $endgroup$
    – Nicbobo
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    I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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    You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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Since this doesn't actually answer the question, it's worth mentioning here: Mike Mearls says, "It’s there for completeness - no reason to not give it, but spell not balanced assuming you’d throw on plate armor".
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Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
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Thanks for this - I wonder why they consider this spell unbalanced if you could easily throw on Plate armor. As it stands, the Wizard is going to get hit over and over again without some sort of supplemental mechanics or magic. It takes a lot of planning to use this spell effectively.
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I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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I don't think Mearls is saying it's unbalanced if you do throw on plate armor, but rather that they did not balance the spell with the assumption that you would do so (i.e. it's theoretically already a balanced spell even without that benefit). I also found a reddit thread that pointed out that the spell doesn't remove the strength requirement of heavy armor, so you might need to have decent strength already...
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You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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You don't max Strength on your Wizards @V2Blast?
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Glyph of Warding



This assumes the Wizard is the big bad, or at least is on home turf.



Cast glyph of warding at 7th level, storing Tenser's transformation, with some trigger that the wizard alone can do, on your castle floor.



Wear plate armor and sit on your throne like the king you are.



When the invaders come in, stomp on the glyph and say "you're toast, interlopers".



This is very niche, as glyph of warding cannot move, but it's one of the options.






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    OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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    The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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    @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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    You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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    Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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By spending another 6th+ level spell slot*



This is wonky, and it clearly shows that our overlords at WoTC didn't think this one through completely, but here it is:




  1. Be a 14th level Wizard of the Illusion School

  2. Cast Major Image at 7th level in order to bypass concentration (and to save your single 6th level slot for next step) creating the illusion of Plate Mail on yourself.

  3. Cast Tenser's Transformation

  4. Upon completion of Tenser's casting, use your Bonus Action to make the plate mail real.

  5. Wear plate mail for 1 minute while under the effects of Tenser's.


The good news is that this only takes 2 actions to do. The bad news is that you're now down two of your highest spell slots.



*credit where credit is due on GiTP.






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    Technically, yes, but they're weird edge cases.




    • Wear armor. Have a friend capable of casting True Polymorph transform you into a creature capable of casting Tenser's Transformation (thus causing your armor, along with the rest of your gear, to meld into you). Cast the spell. Have your friend stop True Polymorphing you. Maintain concentration.


    • While maintaining Tenser's Transformation, Wish to have the armor instantly put on you.


    • a 6th level Glyph of Warding can be used to trigger the effect, and even takes care of the concentration for you.



    Also, one weird edge case that doesn't technically do what you ask for, but does at least achieve something worthwhile with the armor proficiency part of the spell. (Admittedly, it's terrible RAW cheese.) As a warforged, casting Tenser's Transformation right at the end of a Long Rest would potentially give you access to Heavy Plating Integrated Protection for the rest of the day.






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      The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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    Glyph of Warding



    This assumes the Wizard is the big bad, or at least is on home turf.



    Cast glyph of warding at 7th level, storing Tenser's transformation, with some trigger that the wizard alone can do, on your castle floor.



    Wear plate armor and sit on your throne like the king you are.



    When the invaders come in, stomp on the glyph and say "you're toast, interlopers".



    This is very niche, as glyph of warding cannot move, but it's one of the options.






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      OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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      – Grosscol
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      The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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      – NautArch
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      @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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      You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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      Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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    Glyph of Warding



    This assumes the Wizard is the big bad, or at least is on home turf.



    Cast glyph of warding at 7th level, storing Tenser's transformation, with some trigger that the wizard alone can do, on your castle floor.



    Wear plate armor and sit on your throne like the king you are.



    When the invaders come in, stomp on the glyph and say "you're toast, interlopers".



    This is very niche, as glyph of warding cannot move, but it's one of the options.






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      OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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      – Grosscol
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      The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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      – NautArch
      6 hours ago










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      @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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      You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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      Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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      – Blake Steel
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    Glyph of Warding



    This assumes the Wizard is the big bad, or at least is on home turf.



    Cast glyph of warding at 7th level, storing Tenser's transformation, with some trigger that the wizard alone can do, on your castle floor.



    Wear plate armor and sit on your throne like the king you are.



    When the invaders come in, stomp on the glyph and say "you're toast, interlopers".



    This is very niche, as glyph of warding cannot move, but it's one of the options.






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    Glyph of Warding



    This assumes the Wizard is the big bad, or at least is on home turf.



    Cast glyph of warding at 7th level, storing Tenser's transformation, with some trigger that the wizard alone can do, on your castle floor.



    Wear plate armor and sit on your throne like the king you are.



    When the invaders come in, stomp on the glyph and say "you're toast, interlopers".



    This is very niche, as glyph of warding cannot move, but it's one of the options.







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      OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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      – Grosscol
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      The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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      – NautArch
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      @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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      You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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      – NautArch
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      Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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      – Blake Steel
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      OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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      – Grosscol
      7 hours ago










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      The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      6 hours ago










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      @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
      $endgroup$
      – Blake Steel
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      You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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      Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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    OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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    – Grosscol
    7 hours ago




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    OOoo... this is clever. I like this answer.
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    The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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    – NautArch
    6 hours ago




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    The downside is being a Big Bad Wizard that can't cast spells.
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    @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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    – Blake Steel
    6 hours ago






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    @NautArch No, once you become proficient in plate armor, you can then cast spells while wearing it. You do have to win the fight in 1 minute though, else you're toast. (Without something like Cast-Off Armor)
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    You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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    – NautArch
    6 hours ago




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    You're not proficient until you trigger the glyph. So until then, you can't cast spells. Then once it's cast...you can't cast spells.
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    Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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    6 hours ago




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    Ah yes, @NautArch I was too focused on the bulleted text to see the line where it told me "you can't cast spells"
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    By spending another 6th+ level spell slot*



    This is wonky, and it clearly shows that our overlords at WoTC didn't think this one through completely, but here it is:




    1. Be a 14th level Wizard of the Illusion School

    2. Cast Major Image at 7th level in order to bypass concentration (and to save your single 6th level slot for next step) creating the illusion of Plate Mail on yourself.

    3. Cast Tenser's Transformation

    4. Upon completion of Tenser's casting, use your Bonus Action to make the plate mail real.

    5. Wear plate mail for 1 minute while under the effects of Tenser's.


    The good news is that this only takes 2 actions to do. The bad news is that you're now down two of your highest spell slots.



    *credit where credit is due on GiTP.






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      By spending another 6th+ level spell slot*



      This is wonky, and it clearly shows that our overlords at WoTC didn't think this one through completely, but here it is:




      1. Be a 14th level Wizard of the Illusion School

      2. Cast Major Image at 7th level in order to bypass concentration (and to save your single 6th level slot for next step) creating the illusion of Plate Mail on yourself.

      3. Cast Tenser's Transformation

      4. Upon completion of Tenser's casting, use your Bonus Action to make the plate mail real.

      5. Wear plate mail for 1 minute while under the effects of Tenser's.


      The good news is that this only takes 2 actions to do. The bad news is that you're now down two of your highest spell slots.



      *credit where credit is due on GiTP.






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        $begingroup$

        By spending another 6th+ level spell slot*



        This is wonky, and it clearly shows that our overlords at WoTC didn't think this one through completely, but here it is:




        1. Be a 14th level Wizard of the Illusion School

        2. Cast Major Image at 7th level in order to bypass concentration (and to save your single 6th level slot for next step) creating the illusion of Plate Mail on yourself.

        3. Cast Tenser's Transformation

        4. Upon completion of Tenser's casting, use your Bonus Action to make the plate mail real.

        5. Wear plate mail for 1 minute while under the effects of Tenser's.


        The good news is that this only takes 2 actions to do. The bad news is that you're now down two of your highest spell slots.



        *credit where credit is due on GiTP.






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        By spending another 6th+ level spell slot*



        This is wonky, and it clearly shows that our overlords at WoTC didn't think this one through completely, but here it is:




        1. Be a 14th level Wizard of the Illusion School

        2. Cast Major Image at 7th level in order to bypass concentration (and to save your single 6th level slot for next step) creating the illusion of Plate Mail on yourself.

        3. Cast Tenser's Transformation

        4. Upon completion of Tenser's casting, use your Bonus Action to make the plate mail real.

        5. Wear plate mail for 1 minute while under the effects of Tenser's.


        The good news is that this only takes 2 actions to do. The bad news is that you're now down two of your highest spell slots.



        *credit where credit is due on GiTP.







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            Technically, yes, but they're weird edge cases.




            • Wear armor. Have a friend capable of casting True Polymorph transform you into a creature capable of casting Tenser's Transformation (thus causing your armor, along with the rest of your gear, to meld into you). Cast the spell. Have your friend stop True Polymorphing you. Maintain concentration.


            • While maintaining Tenser's Transformation, Wish to have the armor instantly put on you.


            • a 6th level Glyph of Warding can be used to trigger the effect, and even takes care of the concentration for you.



            Also, one weird edge case that doesn't technically do what you ask for, but does at least achieve something worthwhile with the armor proficiency part of the spell. (Admittedly, it's terrible RAW cheese.) As a warforged, casting Tenser's Transformation right at the end of a Long Rest would potentially give you access to Heavy Plating Integrated Protection for the rest of the day.






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              The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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            Technically, yes, but they're weird edge cases.




            • Wear armor. Have a friend capable of casting True Polymorph transform you into a creature capable of casting Tenser's Transformation (thus causing your armor, along with the rest of your gear, to meld into you). Cast the spell. Have your friend stop True Polymorphing you. Maintain concentration.


            • While maintaining Tenser's Transformation, Wish to have the armor instantly put on you.


            • a 6th level Glyph of Warding can be used to trigger the effect, and even takes care of the concentration for you.



            Also, one weird edge case that doesn't technically do what you ask for, but does at least achieve something worthwhile with the armor proficiency part of the spell. (Admittedly, it's terrible RAW cheese.) As a warforged, casting Tenser's Transformation right at the end of a Long Rest would potentially give you access to Heavy Plating Integrated Protection for the rest of the day.






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              The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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              – V2Blast
              5 hours ago














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            4





            $begingroup$

            Technically, yes, but they're weird edge cases.




            • Wear armor. Have a friend capable of casting True Polymorph transform you into a creature capable of casting Tenser's Transformation (thus causing your armor, along with the rest of your gear, to meld into you). Cast the spell. Have your friend stop True Polymorphing you. Maintain concentration.


            • While maintaining Tenser's Transformation, Wish to have the armor instantly put on you.


            • a 6th level Glyph of Warding can be used to trigger the effect, and even takes care of the concentration for you.



            Also, one weird edge case that doesn't technically do what you ask for, but does at least achieve something worthwhile with the armor proficiency part of the spell. (Admittedly, it's terrible RAW cheese.) As a warforged, casting Tenser's Transformation right at the end of a Long Rest would potentially give you access to Heavy Plating Integrated Protection for the rest of the day.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            Technically, yes, but they're weird edge cases.




            • Wear armor. Have a friend capable of casting True Polymorph transform you into a creature capable of casting Tenser's Transformation (thus causing your armor, along with the rest of your gear, to meld into you). Cast the spell. Have your friend stop True Polymorphing you. Maintain concentration.


            • While maintaining Tenser's Transformation, Wish to have the armor instantly put on you.


            • a 6th level Glyph of Warding can be used to trigger the effect, and even takes care of the concentration for you.



            Also, one weird edge case that doesn't technically do what you ask for, but does at least achieve something worthwhile with the armor proficiency part of the spell. (Admittedly, it's terrible RAW cheese.) As a warforged, casting Tenser's Transformation right at the end of a Long Rest would potentially give you access to Heavy Plating Integrated Protection for the rest of the day.







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              The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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            • $begingroup$
              The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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            $begingroup$
            The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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            $begingroup$
            The question body asks "is there any way" but the title asks "how"; you might want to clarify your header to reflect that you're saying "This is technically possible, but [...]".
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