has changed or had changed or was changed?
If I want to say
Let's check if the entry ____, and do this and that if so.
which one should I use?
- has changed
- had changed
- was changed
- has been changed
And an explanation would be great!
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If I want to say
Let's check if the entry ____, and do this and that if so.
which one should I use?
- has changed
- had changed
- was changed
- has been changed
And an explanation would be great!
tenses
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If I want to say
Let's check if the entry ____, and do this and that if so.
which one should I use?
- has changed
- had changed
- was changed
- has been changed
And an explanation would be great!
tenses
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If I want to say
Let's check if the entry ____, and do this and that if so.
which one should I use?
- has changed
- had changed
- was changed
- has been changed
And an explanation would be great!
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Each of them have a slightly different meaning
note: my examples are offered as if the speaker sees that the entry is different in its various tenses
- Let's see if this entry has changed...
This is the present perfect tense, and refers only to the status of the entry being different than that which it was before.
i.e. It used to be "26" and now it is "24".
- Let's see if this entry had changed...
This is the past perfect tense, and refers to the status of the entry being different when measured at some prior unspecified point.
i.e. Last time I looked, it was "24" even though before that it was "26"
- Let's see if this entry was changed...
There are two possibilities with this wording:
In one case, "was" is the verb and "changed" is a past participle. This essentially draws attention to the entry's status with the adjective "changed". It could be written: "Let's see if this was a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it was "24" when I checked
In the other case, this is in passive voice. This means that there is an implicit agent that caused the entry to change. In other words, someone or something did the changing.
i.e. It was "26" before; but something changed it and it is [or it was] "24" now [or then]
- Let's see if this entry has been changed...
This is the same as "was changed" except for the verb "to be" is not past tense (was), but present perfect (has been). This means we are applying the same attention to the descriptor of the entry or using passive voice, but doing so in a manner more connected to the present. This could be written as "Let's see if this has been a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it is "24" (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
-or-
i.e. It was "26" before, but something changed it and it is "24" now (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
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There are so much possible variants. Everything here depends on the context you have.
First of all: an entry itself can not change, so first 2 options in your question are not suitable, because they are not in passive voice.
Depending on the time you want to use the sentense could look like:
Let's check if the entry has been changed , and .... (If the action of changing has been finished recently and other Present Perfect cases).
Let's check if the entry had been changed , and .... (If the action had been finished before a particular point in the past)
Let's check if the entry was changed , and .... (If you talk about a past event)
New contributor
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
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Each of them have a slightly different meaning
note: my examples are offered as if the speaker sees that the entry is different in its various tenses
- Let's see if this entry has changed...
This is the present perfect tense, and refers only to the status of the entry being different than that which it was before.
i.e. It used to be "26" and now it is "24".
- Let's see if this entry had changed...
This is the past perfect tense, and refers to the status of the entry being different when measured at some prior unspecified point.
i.e. Last time I looked, it was "24" even though before that it was "26"
- Let's see if this entry was changed...
There are two possibilities with this wording:
In one case, "was" is the verb and "changed" is a past participle. This essentially draws attention to the entry's status with the adjective "changed". It could be written: "Let's see if this was a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it was "24" when I checked
In the other case, this is in passive voice. This means that there is an implicit agent that caused the entry to change. In other words, someone or something did the changing.
i.e. It was "26" before; but something changed it and it is [or it was] "24" now [or then]
- Let's see if this entry has been changed...
This is the same as "was changed" except for the verb "to be" is not past tense (was), but present perfect (has been). This means we are applying the same attention to the descriptor of the entry or using passive voice, but doing so in a manner more connected to the present. This could be written as "Let's see if this has been a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it is "24" (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
-or-
i.e. It was "26" before, but something changed it and it is "24" now (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
add a comment |
Each of them have a slightly different meaning
note: my examples are offered as if the speaker sees that the entry is different in its various tenses
- Let's see if this entry has changed...
This is the present perfect tense, and refers only to the status of the entry being different than that which it was before.
i.e. It used to be "26" and now it is "24".
- Let's see if this entry had changed...
This is the past perfect tense, and refers to the status of the entry being different when measured at some prior unspecified point.
i.e. Last time I looked, it was "24" even though before that it was "26"
- Let's see if this entry was changed...
There are two possibilities with this wording:
In one case, "was" is the verb and "changed" is a past participle. This essentially draws attention to the entry's status with the adjective "changed". It could be written: "Let's see if this was a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it was "24" when I checked
In the other case, this is in passive voice. This means that there is an implicit agent that caused the entry to change. In other words, someone or something did the changing.
i.e. It was "26" before; but something changed it and it is [or it was] "24" now [or then]
- Let's see if this entry has been changed...
This is the same as "was changed" except for the verb "to be" is not past tense (was), but present perfect (has been). This means we are applying the same attention to the descriptor of the entry or using passive voice, but doing so in a manner more connected to the present. This could be written as "Let's see if this has been a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it is "24" (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
-or-
i.e. It was "26" before, but something changed it and it is "24" now (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
add a comment |
Each of them have a slightly different meaning
note: my examples are offered as if the speaker sees that the entry is different in its various tenses
- Let's see if this entry has changed...
This is the present perfect tense, and refers only to the status of the entry being different than that which it was before.
i.e. It used to be "26" and now it is "24".
- Let's see if this entry had changed...
This is the past perfect tense, and refers to the status of the entry being different when measured at some prior unspecified point.
i.e. Last time I looked, it was "24" even though before that it was "26"
- Let's see if this entry was changed...
There are two possibilities with this wording:
In one case, "was" is the verb and "changed" is a past participle. This essentially draws attention to the entry's status with the adjective "changed". It could be written: "Let's see if this was a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it was "24" when I checked
In the other case, this is in passive voice. This means that there is an implicit agent that caused the entry to change. In other words, someone or something did the changing.
i.e. It was "26" before; but something changed it and it is [or it was] "24" now [or then]
- Let's see if this entry has been changed...
This is the same as "was changed" except for the verb "to be" is not past tense (was), but present perfect (has been). This means we are applying the same attention to the descriptor of the entry or using passive voice, but doing so in a manner more connected to the present. This could be written as "Let's see if this has been a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it is "24" (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
-or-
i.e. It was "26" before, but something changed it and it is "24" now (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
Each of them have a slightly different meaning
note: my examples are offered as if the speaker sees that the entry is different in its various tenses
- Let's see if this entry has changed...
This is the present perfect tense, and refers only to the status of the entry being different than that which it was before.
i.e. It used to be "26" and now it is "24".
- Let's see if this entry had changed...
This is the past perfect tense, and refers to the status of the entry being different when measured at some prior unspecified point.
i.e. Last time I looked, it was "24" even though before that it was "26"
- Let's see if this entry was changed...
There are two possibilities with this wording:
In one case, "was" is the verb and "changed" is a past participle. This essentially draws attention to the entry's status with the adjective "changed". It could be written: "Let's see if this was a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it was "24" when I checked
In the other case, this is in passive voice. This means that there is an implicit agent that caused the entry to change. In other words, someone or something did the changing.
i.e. It was "26" before; but something changed it and it is [or it was] "24" now [or then]
- Let's see if this entry has been changed...
This is the same as "was changed" except for the verb "to be" is not past tense (was), but present perfect (has been). This means we are applying the same attention to the descriptor of the entry or using passive voice, but doing so in a manner more connected to the present. This could be written as "Let's see if this has been a changed entry..."
i.e. It was "26" before; it is no longer "26" since it is "24" (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
-or-
i.e. It was "26" before, but something changed it and it is "24" now (and has been for an unspecified amount of time)
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You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
add a comment |
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
You're missing the possibility that 3 and 4 are passive verbal, rather than adjectival.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
@ColinFine ooh. You are right. Slipped my mind; I'll adjust
– David Coffron
10 hours ago
add a comment |
There are so much possible variants. Everything here depends on the context you have.
First of all: an entry itself can not change, so first 2 options in your question are not suitable, because they are not in passive voice.
Depending on the time you want to use the sentense could look like:
Let's check if the entry has been changed , and .... (If the action of changing has been finished recently and other Present Perfect cases).
Let's check if the entry had been changed , and .... (If the action had been finished before a particular point in the past)
Let's check if the entry was changed , and .... (If you talk about a past event)
New contributor
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
add a comment |
There are so much possible variants. Everything here depends on the context you have.
First of all: an entry itself can not change, so first 2 options in your question are not suitable, because they are not in passive voice.
Depending on the time you want to use the sentense could look like:
Let's check if the entry has been changed , and .... (If the action of changing has been finished recently and other Present Perfect cases).
Let's check if the entry had been changed , and .... (If the action had been finished before a particular point in the past)
Let's check if the entry was changed , and .... (If you talk about a past event)
New contributor
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
add a comment |
There are so much possible variants. Everything here depends on the context you have.
First of all: an entry itself can not change, so first 2 options in your question are not suitable, because they are not in passive voice.
Depending on the time you want to use the sentense could look like:
Let's check if the entry has been changed , and .... (If the action of changing has been finished recently and other Present Perfect cases).
Let's check if the entry had been changed , and .... (If the action had been finished before a particular point in the past)
Let's check if the entry was changed , and .... (If you talk about a past event)
New contributor
There are so much possible variants. Everything here depends on the context you have.
First of all: an entry itself can not change, so first 2 options in your question are not suitable, because they are not in passive voice.
Depending on the time you want to use the sentense could look like:
Let's check if the entry has been changed , and .... (If the action of changing has been finished recently and other Present Perfect cases).
Let's check if the entry had been changed , and .... (If the action had been finished before a particular point in the past)
Let's check if the entry was changed , and .... (If you talk about a past event)
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I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
I'm sorry, but your first sentence is plain wrong. Change is one of many words in English which can be used in middle as well as active voice. All four are possible, and (to my ear) all except 3 are natural and common. 3 is possible, but the simple past is odd because the context strongly implies there is present relevance.
– Colin Fine
10 hours ago
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