use of 'at the latest'? [closed]

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There is a time schedule of musical band in festival

Band A at 10:50 AM

Band B at 11:50 AM

Band C at 14:50 PM

Band D at 18:50 PM

if all bands will perform in same day, which band plays at the latest?

I was tested by TOEIC which is english grammar test from ETS.
Today there is a question about use of 'at the latest'.
I think the answer should be band A,
but answer is band D.

I believed 'latest' means 'most recent', so I selected band A because band A plays first.

What is your opinion?

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

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asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch Apr 5 at 19:03

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2

Are you sure the question said "at the latest"? That sounds odd, to me.

– James Random
Mar 16 at 15:38

1

I agree that at the latest (without the addition of time afterwards) is not a sound formulation for this question. That aside, it depends on your time reference. If something is happening in the future, then earliest would be the closest to the current time's most recent. (Although it's odd, if not nonsensical, to think of something that hasn't happened yet as recent.)

– Jason Bassford
Mar 16 at 15:50

3

It's really disheartening to see a "test question" like this aimed at helping non-native speakers learn English, but containing a construction that's at least not a sound formulation for this question. This steers we towards taking a jaundiced view of everything else (in the cited question, not OP's ELU question itself), so I'm minded to say that even though there's nothing explicitly "incorrect" about including the highlighted word in if all bands will perform in same day, I'd be prepared to bet any money almost all native speaker test-setters wouldn't include it.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:29

1

OMG! - after cutting & pasting if all bands will perform in same day, I've just noticed the glaring omission of the there! @user340406 - my advice would be to ignore this test completely. It's garbage.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:31

1

If the band schedule contains future times, then none of them are "recent". In any case, "at the latest" is a phrase meaning "no later than the time mentioned", for example if my father said "I want you to be here by 11 AM at the latest", he means I must arrive at 11 AM or before. I wonder if you have remembered the question properly, and, if you have, whether the course materials are very low quality.

– Michael Harvey
Mar 16 at 16:40

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There is a time schedule of musical band in festival

Band A at 10:50 AM

Band B at 11:50 AM

Band C at 14:50 PM

Band D at 18:50 PM

if all bands will perform in same day, which band plays at the latest?

I was tested by TOEIC which is english grammar test from ETS.
Today there is a question about use of 'at the latest'.
I think the answer should be band A,
but answer is band D.

I believed 'latest' means 'most recent', so I selected band A because band A plays first.

What is your opinion?

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch Apr 5 at 19:03

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

"Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

2

Are you sure the question said "at the latest"? That sounds odd, to me.

– James Random
Mar 16 at 15:38

1

I agree that at the latest (without the addition of time afterwards) is not a sound formulation for this question. That aside, it depends on your time reference. If something is happening in the future, then earliest would be the closest to the current time's most recent. (Although it's odd, if not nonsensical, to think of something that hasn't happened yet as recent.)

– Jason Bassford
Mar 16 at 15:50

3

It's really disheartening to see a "test question" like this aimed at helping non-native speakers learn English, but containing a construction that's at least not a sound formulation for this question. This steers we towards taking a jaundiced view of everything else (in the cited question, not OP's ELU question itself), so I'm minded to say that even though there's nothing explicitly "incorrect" about including the highlighted word in if all bands will perform in same day, I'd be prepared to bet any money almost all native speaker test-setters wouldn't include it.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:29

1

OMG! - after cutting & pasting if all bands will perform in same day, I've just noticed the glaring omission of the there! @user340406 - my advice would be to ignore this test completely. It's garbage.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:31

1

If the band schedule contains future times, then none of them are "recent". In any case, "at the latest" is a phrase meaning "no later than the time mentioned", for example if my father said "I want you to be here by 11 AM at the latest", he means I must arrive at 11 AM or before. I wonder if you have remembered the question properly, and, if you have, whether the course materials are very low quality.

– Michael Harvey
Mar 16 at 16:40

|
show 4 more comments

There is a time schedule of musical band in festival

Band A at 10:50 AM

Band B at 11:50 AM

Band C at 14:50 PM

Band D at 18:50 PM

if all bands will perform in same day, which band plays at the latest?

I was tested by TOEIC which is english grammar test from ETS.
Today there is a question about use of 'at the latest'.
I think the answer should be band A,
but answer is band D.

I believed 'latest' means 'most recent', so I selected band A because band A plays first.

What is your opinion?

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

There is a time schedule of musical band in festival

Band A at 10:50 AM

Band B at 11:50 AM

Band C at 14:50 PM

Band D at 18:50 PM

if all bands will perform in same day, which band plays at the latest?

I was tested by TOEIC which is english grammar test from ETS.
Today there is a question about use of 'at the latest'.
I think the answer should be band A,
but answer is band D.

I believed 'latest' means 'most recent', so I selected band A because band A plays first.

What is your opinion?

grammar

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

edited Mar 29 at 14:41

jimm101

7,42792240

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

asked Mar 16 at 15:32

user340406

closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch Apr 5 at 19:03

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

"Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

closed as off-topic by FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch Apr 5 at 19:03

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

"Please include the research you’ve done, or consider if your question suits our English Language Learners site better. Questions that can be answered using commonly-available references are off-topic." – FumbleFingers, TrevorD, JJJ, Davo, Mitch

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

2

Are you sure the question said "at the latest"? That sounds odd, to me.

– James Random
Mar 16 at 15:38

1

I agree that at the latest (without the addition of time afterwards) is not a sound formulation for this question. That aside, it depends on your time reference. If something is happening in the future, then earliest would be the closest to the current time's most recent. (Although it's odd, if not nonsensical, to think of something that hasn't happened yet as recent.)

– Jason Bassford
Mar 16 at 15:50

3

It's really disheartening to see a "test question" like this aimed at helping non-native speakers learn English, but containing a construction that's at least not a sound formulation for this question. This steers we towards taking a jaundiced view of everything else (in the cited question, not OP's ELU question itself), so I'm minded to say that even though there's nothing explicitly "incorrect" about including the highlighted word in if all bands will perform in same day, I'd be prepared to bet any money almost all native speaker test-setters wouldn't include it.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:29

1

OMG! - after cutting & pasting if all bands will perform in same day, I've just noticed the glaring omission of the there! @user340406 - my advice would be to ignore this test completely. It's garbage.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:31

1

If the band schedule contains future times, then none of them are "recent". In any case, "at the latest" is a phrase meaning "no later than the time mentioned", for example if my father said "I want you to be here by 11 AM at the latest", he means I must arrive at 11 AM or before. I wonder if you have remembered the question properly, and, if you have, whether the course materials are very low quality.

– Michael Harvey
Mar 16 at 16:40

|
show 4 more comments

2

Are you sure the question said "at the latest"? That sounds odd, to me.

– James Random
Mar 16 at 15:38

1

I agree that at the latest (without the addition of time afterwards) is not a sound formulation for this question. That aside, it depends on your time reference. If something is happening in the future, then earliest would be the closest to the current time's most recent. (Although it's odd, if not nonsensical, to think of something that hasn't happened yet as recent.)

– Jason Bassford
Mar 16 at 15:50

3

It's really disheartening to see a "test question" like this aimed at helping non-native speakers learn English, but containing a construction that's at least not a sound formulation for this question. This steers we towards taking a jaundiced view of everything else (in the cited question, not OP's ELU question itself), so I'm minded to say that even though there's nothing explicitly "incorrect" about including the highlighted word in if all bands will perform in same day, I'd be prepared to bet any money almost all native speaker test-setters wouldn't include it.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:29

1

OMG! - after cutting & pasting if all bands will perform in same day, I've just noticed the glaring omission of the there! @user340406 - my advice would be to ignore this test completely. It's garbage.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:31

1

If the band schedule contains future times, then none of them are "recent". In any case, "at the latest" is a phrase meaning "no later than the time mentioned", for example if my father said "I want you to be here by 11 AM at the latest", he means I must arrive at 11 AM or before. I wonder if you have remembered the question properly, and, if you have, whether the course materials are very low quality.

– Michael Harvey
Mar 16 at 16:40

Are you sure the question said "at the latest"? That sounds odd, to me.

– James Random
Mar 16 at 15:38

I agree that at the latest (without the addition of time afterwards) is not a sound formulation for this question. That aside, it depends on your time reference. If something is happening in the future, then earliest would be the closest to the current time's most recent. (Although it's odd, if not nonsensical, to think of something that hasn't happened yet as recent.)

– Jason Bassford
Mar 16 at 15:50

It's really disheartening to see a "test question" like this aimed at helping non-native speakers learn English, but containing a construction that's at least not a sound formulation for this question. This steers we towards taking a jaundiced view of everything else (in the cited question, not OP's ELU question itself), so I'm minded to say that even though there's nothing explicitly "incorrect" about including the highlighted word in if all bands will perform in same day, I'd be prepared to bet any money almost all native speaker test-setters wouldn't include it.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:29

OMG! - after cutting & pasting if all bands will perform in same day, I've just noticed the glaring omission of the there! @user340406 - my advice would be to ignore this test completely. It's garbage.

– FumbleFingers
Mar 16 at 16:31

If the band schedule contains future times, then none of them are "recent". In any case, "at the latest" is a phrase meaning "no later than the time mentioned", for example if my father said "I want you to be here by 11 AM at the latest", he means I must arrive at 11 AM or before. I wonder if you have remembered the question properly, and, if you have, whether the course materials are very low quality.

– Michael Harvey
Mar 16 at 16:40

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