Why is there ghosting when using flash on tripod with image stabilization?
I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un
It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.
I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.
flash tripod image-stabilization ghosting
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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un
It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.
I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.
flash tripod image-stabilization ghosting
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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
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Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago
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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un
It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.
I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.
flash tripod image-stabilization ghosting
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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un
It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.
I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.
flash tripod image-stabilization ghosting
flash tripod image-stabilization ghosting
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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
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Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago
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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
1
Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago
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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
1
1
Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago
Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago
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Looks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.
For those who are interested, here is the final shot
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It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:
- What exposure mode were you using in each shot?
- Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?
- Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?
- If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?
It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).
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Looks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.
For those who are interested, here is the final shot
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Looks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.
For those who are interested, here is the final shot
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Looks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.
For those who are interested, here is the final shot
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Looks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.
For those who are interested, here is the final shot
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It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:
- What exposure mode were you using in each shot?
- Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?
- Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?
- If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?
It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).
answered 11 hours ago
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It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:
- What exposure mode were you using in each shot?
- Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?
- Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?
- If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?
It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).
answered 11 hours ago
Michael CMichael C
131k7149368
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It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:
- What exposure mode were you using in each shot?
- Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?
- Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?
- If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?
It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).
answered 11 hours ago
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It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).
Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:
- What exposure mode were you using in each shot?
- Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?
- Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?
- If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?
It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).
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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.
– Tetsujin
12 hours ago
Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?
– Michael C
12 hours ago
Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too
– Duncan_w
11 hours ago
1
Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).
– xenoid
11 hours ago